2015 Genesis Sedan Thread
05-21-14, 06:47 AM
#766
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I drove one, As always they look great. When you dig down deep and REALLY look at the details.....that;s where you come to the understanding WHY its so much cheaper than the comparables. Cheap materials, cheap switchgear, etc. Just nowhere near the quality and finish to others. They're getting closer though.
05-21-14, 06:48 AM
#767
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weight obviously a factor, but 5.2 0-60 is definitely not slow. and your IS350 is tiny and light in comparison.
well obviously they're not trying to 'pull off an ls400' with this genesis. 
05-21-14, 09:33 AM
#768
I think you'd be better comparing the LS to the Equus if you want that kind of isolation.
05-21-14, 02:10 PM
#769
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Yeah its not going to be as smooth and quiet as the LS, it isn't meant to be. Try an Equus.
05-22-14, 08:46 AM
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The new Genesis is too heavy but the upside is that it is much more refined than the last generation and many respectable publications describe it as right in line with the 5/E/GS/A6/CTS. Old school luxury was always based on size, weight and solidity remember and there's nothing a pair of turbos can't fix. Bentleys, S-Classes, Rolls Royce's are all 5-6000 lbs but move with authority.
05-22-14, 09:10 AM
#771
Well, you have to consider that V6 will be pretty slow, slower than Camry... some mags have estimated 0-60 for V6 in high 6's... but really, we dont have any reviews on the car, isnt it on sale by now? Weird.
05-22-14, 09:54 AM
#773
Chassis and handling is definitely in line with the intended functions. Super solid structure and improved dynamics over the outgoing model for sure. It won't be an M3/M5, but it should definitely placate nearly anyone shopping in the midsize luxury segment.
05-22-14, 04:11 PM
#774
I was able to see this car in person. Looks pretty nice but not as low as in the internet show car pictures. It looked much higher off the ground with much more wheel gap.
for 39k base model with navi, rear view, almost fully loaded without the sunroof. I'd opt for this car over the bmw 5 series / 6 series 4 door.The profile looks very similar to the bmw 5 and 6 series sedans. But u can now get a used 5 series that's a few years old for a lot less.
the interior is pretty nice. Seems on par with it's japanese counterparts. I'm not sure how some of u are nit picking the interior but it looks pretty good to me. U do get a lot for your money with this car. Looks pretty good with a design that will look good for years to come. It's simple, long and sleek.
for 39k base model with navi, rear view, almost fully loaded without the sunroof. I'd opt for this car over the bmw 5 series / 6 series 4 door.The profile looks very similar to the bmw 5 and 6 series sedans. But u can now get a used 5 series that's a few years old for a lot less.
the interior is pretty nice. Seems on par with it's japanese counterparts. I'm not sure how some of u are nit picking the interior but it looks pretty good to me. U do get a lot for your money with this car. Looks pretty good with a design that will look good for years to come. It's simple, long and sleek.
05-22-14, 04:43 PM
#775
I was able to see this car in person. Looks pretty nice but not as low as in the internet show car pictures. It looked much higher off the ground with much more wheel gap.
for 39k base model with navi, rear view, almost fully loaded without the sunroof. I'd opt for this car over the bmw 5 series / 6 series 4 door.The profile looks very similar to the bmw 5 and 6 series sedans. But u can now get a used 5 series that's a few years old for a lot less.
the interior is pretty nice. Seems on par with it's japanese counterparts. I'm not sure how some of u are nit picking the interior but it looks pretty good to me. U do get a lot for your money with this car. Looks pretty good with a design that will look good for years to come. It's simple, long and sleek.
for 39k base model with navi, rear view, almost fully loaded without the sunroof. I'd opt for this car over the bmw 5 series / 6 series 4 door.The profile looks very similar to the bmw 5 and 6 series sedans. But u can now get a used 5 series that's a few years old for a lot less.
the interior is pretty nice. Seems on par with it's japanese counterparts. I'm not sure how some of u are nit picking the interior but it looks pretty good to me. U do get a lot for your money with this car. Looks pretty good with a design that will look good for years to come. It's simple, long and sleek.
05-22-14, 06:01 PM
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Genesis is MUCH bigger than the Q50. It's not going to be as nimble, tight as the Q50. It's even larger than the Q70.
Chassis and handling is definitely in line with the intended functions. Super solid structure and improved dynamics over the outgoing model for sure. It won't be an M3/M5, but it should definitely placate nearly anyone shopping in the midsize luxury segment.
Chassis and handling is definitely in line with the intended functions. Super solid structure and improved dynamics over the outgoing model for sure. It won't be an M3/M5, but it should definitely placate nearly anyone shopping in the midsize luxury segment.
The new Genesis is too heavy but the upside is that it is much more refined than the last generation and many respectable publications describe it as right in line with the 5/E/GS/A6/CTS. Old school luxury was always based on size, weight and solidity remember and there's nothing a pair of turbos can't fix. Bentleys, S-Classes, Rolls Royce's are all 5-6000 lbs but move with authority.
05-22-14, 06:48 PM
#777
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I guess you're talking about the standard Q50 model without the trick-electron steer-by-wire.
While i have not directly sampled a Q50 per se, I did a full review on its predecessor G25 AWD, and, while the interior was decent and the car well-assembled, I wouldn't consider it a "luxury" ride by any means. Its stiff underpinnings were well into sports-sedan territory.
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05-22-14, 06:58 PM
#778
why are u guys comparing it with a q50 ? the q50 and lexus IS are girl cars.
the genesis is a lot of car for the same price as a compact luxury. U get midsize to fullsize full luxury for the price of a compact luxury sedan. the base comes with navi and back up cam along with a bunch of other features, no sunroof.
the genesis is a lot of car for the same price as a compact luxury. U get midsize to fullsize full luxury for the price of a compact luxury sedan. the base comes with navi and back up cam along with a bunch of other features, no sunroof.
05-22-14, 07:01 PM
#779
I did sit in it.
it feels a lot like a BMW, much more sportier feel than the previous gen genesis.
you can touch the instrument panel while your right hand is on the shift ****. it's very different interior.
exterior is long and lean with nice side profile bone structure from grille all the back to the back tail lamps. it's simple yet aggressive and non annoying.
it feels a lot like a BMW, much more sportier feel than the previous gen genesis.
you can touch the instrument panel while your right hand is on the shift ****. it's very different interior.
exterior is long and lean with nice side profile bone structure from grille all the back to the back tail lamps. it's simple yet aggressive and non annoying.
Did you actually sit in it though? The things you touch and feel, not just peering through glass. How sturdy are the materials, assembly/fit and finish? I don't think anyone can ding the car for being bad because it represents huge value and has all the modern ammenities one could ask. The difference is how it makes you feel vs the competition. Refinement is key to success and it will take time. A 2nd generation will reduce but not rid of all the frills. As it stands we should be happy a V6/V8 RWD/AWD sedan is being offered and more thrilled that Hyundai is backing it up for a new gen.
05-22-14, 07:02 PM
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