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Old 10-04-13, 02:02 PM
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Russian Biker Brake-Checks Car - YouTube
I can see our Einstein here doing this on his bikelol
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Old 10-04-13, 02:04 PM
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Brake check a car from that distance is insane!

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Originally Posted by 5gears-IS
Maybe they do have prior footage......that is yet to be seen ;-)
Yes there is footage, not seen... Are you insane? it's not seen because the motorcycle retards didn't want to show what led up to this or what happened after they caught the RR driver.


These guys the motorcycle gang make Aaron Hernandes look smart, and that's a hard thing to do. If you have footage like this, burn it don't post it on the Internet.
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Originally Posted by 5gears-IS
Maybe they do have prior footage......that is yet to be seen ;-)
You can bet that IF the bikers had incrimminating evidence against the RR driver, it would have been posted on the internet by now. If the bikers want public support, NOW is the time to post the truth and turn the tide of opinion that is against them. The fact that they have not posted any evidence to support their statement shows that the video evidence they have condemns them as thugs and hooligans.
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Originally Posted by 5gears-IS

Nice to know but.......that suv was NOT doing 50 miles/hr. Even that super fast bike took a while to catch up.
Right, but it is time vs speed... Tires will hold up to a given temperature, it just so happens it is generally regarded as 50 @ 50... It could also be 100 mph for 20 miles, or 20 mph for 100 miles...
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Old 10-04-13, 02:28 PM
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Going forward, do you think any law or other action could help prevent or alleviate these types of situations?


I believe it was a NY senator that mentioned on the news, that a law limiting the amount of motorcycle riders in a group will help. Your thoughts on the subject?
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Getting a driver's license should require basic physics understanding. Put a bunch of easy physics questions on the written exam, and that will fail most of these delinquents.

Christopher Cruz clearly slept through high school physics. It takes about 120ft for an SUV to decel from 60 to 0. That would mean a deceleration of 9.83 m/s^2 under hard braking.

What distance is required to stop from 60 to 40 miles/h under hard braking, knowing the deceleration?

Based on the formulas, it would require 66 feet to slow to 40 mph, and 0.91 seconds.
But we have to add 0.5 seconds reaction time.

Distance = velocity x time.

After the bike suddenly slowed to 40mph, the SUV had a 0.5 second reaction time, during which it was still driving at 60mph. Distance covered is 44 ft.
Add that to the 66ft required to slow to 40mph, and the total distance required for the SUV to slow to 40mph is 110 feet.

During that time, the bike covers 40mph x 1.41s = 83 feet.

This is a simplified calculation, but basically the SUV was given 83 feet to slow down when it needed 110 feet. Of course the SUV is going to clip the bike.
Even in the most optimistic situation, it would still tap the bike.



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Alexian Lien- completely not guilty.
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Undercover Cop Stood By As Bikers Beat Range Rover Driver
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Oh snap someone busted out the math. It's over, bikers at fault. Every other arguments are invalid.

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Old 10-04-13, 02:58 PM
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Being in that line of work to serve and protect he shoud have stepped in I don't blame the undercover cop at all. It is called bystander effect.
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Originally Posted by pman6
Getting a driver's license should require basic physics understanding. Put a bunch of easy physics questions on the written exam, and that will fail most of these delinquents.

Christopher Cruz clearly slept through high school physics. It takes about 120ft for an SUV to decel from 60 to 0. That would mean a deceleration of 9.83 m/s^2 under hard braking.

What distance is required to stop from 60 to 40 miles/h under hard braking, knowing the deceleration?

Based on the formulas, it would require 66 feet to slow to 40 mph, and 0.91 seconds.
But we have to add 0.5 seconds reaction time.

Distance = velocity x time.

After the bike suddenly slowed to 40mph, the SUV had a 0.5 second reaction time, during which it was still driving at 60mph. Distance covered is 44 ft.
Add that to the 66ft required to slow to 40mph, and the total distance required for the SUV to slow to 40mph is 110 feet.

During that time, the bike covers 40mph x 1.41s = 83 feet.

This is a simplified calculation, but basically the SUV was given 83 feet to slow down when it needed 110 feet. Of course the SUV is going to clip the bike.
Even in the most optimistic situation, it would still tap the bike.



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The all new, "Ran Over"

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Originally Posted by Emphasis
Going forward, do you think any law or other action could help prevent or alleviate these types of situations?


I believe it was a NY senator that mentioned on the news, that a law limiting the amount of motorcycle riders in a group will help. Your thoughts on the subject?
Mandatory tracking devices to track or pinpoint all sports bikes to be able to tell where and how many are in a swarm and possibly to disable or kill the bikes if they are in swarm behavior.

Mandatory forfeit and sale of any bike driven without ID tags displayed or any bikes doing stunts on public streets and loss of driving privileges.

Confiscation and sale or destruction of all dirt bikes found on public streets etc,,,
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Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
The all new, "Ran Over"

Lol. Imagine if he had a hummer instead.
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Originally Posted by Emphasis
Going forward, do you think any law or other action could help prevent or alleviate these types of situations?
they (bikers) already broke many laws so i doubt more will make much difference. now maybe even more monitoring in places like manhattan will alert the police even sooner to break stuff like this up.
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