Teen driver ask.....
08-22-13, 10:09 AM
#16
Lexus Test Driver
My usual freeway speed is 80-85. I've hit 100 a few times in the LS and 120 once. I'm too worried about running into the UHP or having a tire blow-out to do it much.
I used to take my Firebird up to about 110 all the time though.
I used to take my Firebird up to about 110 all the time though.
08-22-13, 10:36 AM
#17
Pole Position
The only way it would happen is if they all did it at once, for example because it became the law. Right now (in North America anyway), passing such a law would almost certainly lead to defeat in the next election.
08-22-13, 10:48 AM
#18
Lexus Test Driver
Many people like to drive faster than the speed limit, and wouldn't buy a car with this "feature". No manufacturer wants to lose any sales by being the first to set their speed limiter that low.
The only way it would happen is if they all did it at once, for example because it became the law. Right now (in North America anyway), passing such a law would almost certainly lead to defeat in the next election.
The only way it would happen is if they all did it at once, for example because it became the law. Right now (in North America anyway), passing such a law would almost certainly lead to defeat in the next election.
Not to mention a ton of politicians probably have fast cars. A LOT ( I mean A TON!) like to drive way faster than the speed limit. You get the middle finger in So-cal for driving 65 in the right hand lane Too much love for speed in this country for any type of speed restrictions by the OEM
08-22-13, 11:09 AM
#19
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it would work out well in actual programming. The sheer number of ever-changing speed-limits (posted and non-posted) would be too complex for even orbiting satellites to keep track of. And that, of course, doesn't include temporary speed-reductions, block by block, for things like schools in session, hospitals, etc.....
Nor would it keep track of adverse driving conditions like wet/icy roads, local construction areas, traffic-jams, etc.....that necessitate slowing down.
Nor would it keep track of adverse driving conditions like wet/icy roads, local construction areas, traffic-jams, etc.....that necessitate slowing down.
1. it will just be built into newer cars sooner or later and should in essence just be software and could be an optional feature that ins. co's can either turn on/off or some other authorization scheme (user turns on/off and ins. can verify for ins. discount). it's only a matter of time and software. 
2. most likely you won't, or it will be a pricey thing people can do if they want the discount (or it's subsidized by insurance).
2. most likely you won't, or it will be a pricey thing people can do if they want the discount (or it's subsidized by insurance).
makes a lot of sense, and for people buying very fast cars that want to take them on a track, the car could 'know' (via gps) that it's allowed to let off its speed restriction. of course, it might also tip off your ins. co. who will know you're racing that bad boy and whack your insurance anyway.
then there will be the bandwagon of people "jail breaking" cars, and some actually going to jail for doing it.
then there will be the bandwagon of people "jail breaking" cars, and some actually going to jail for doing it.
. I'm sure there is separate coverage for the same car on the track though, right?
08-22-13, 05:07 PM
#20
Wow great discussion. You guys got it right . If the speed limit is 65 MPH, why not make the car only go 65 MPH. She was serious when she asked. I was telling her all these reasons why it would go faster, but lost her because she was concentrating on driving.
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08-23-13, 03:52 AM
#21
Pole Position
Statistically speaking, seniors get into far fewer accidents than teens. Insurance companies are paid to bear risk. Throughout history they have determined that their risk lies with younger, more inexperienced drivers. If you were the insurance company, what would you do?
08-23-13, 07:55 AM
#23
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That's a completely different ballgame that's always infuriated me. When you first start, yes you might be an unsure driver, but that is no reason for your rates to be astronomical. Everyone should start with a clean slate, and if you attain accidents your rates go up respectively. Charging teens higher rates from age alone is age discrimination. I don't see them charging old folks more, and we all know how good their reaction times and visual/audible perceptions are. As well, progressive has what it calls the 'snapshot' program. Basically you hook up an OBD 2 gps blackbox which measures your braking and driving patterns. If it sees you brake too hard, it dings you. This is unfair though imo, because it doesn't know the situation and assumes you were driving improperly.
Statistically speaking, seniors get into far fewer accidents than teens. Insurance companies are paid to bear risk. Throughout history they have determined that their risk lies with younger, more inexperienced drivers. If you were the insurance company, what would you do?
but, not sure what would be wrong with limiting cars to 100 outside cities, and 70 in metro city areas. i mean no one should be going over 100 on public roads. yeah i've done it, and yeah, it was dumb.
08-23-13, 09:18 AM
#24
Statistically speaking, seniors get into far fewer accidents than teens. Insurance companies are paid to bear risk. Throughout history they have determined that their risk lies with younger, more inexperienced drivers. If you were the insurance company, what would you do?
Regardless, I still stand by my statement regarding the OP's question. GPS units are CHEAP by today's standards. Almost every smartphone has one. Pop a little adapter into every car's ECU, and regulate how fast they can go based on their location. Work with Google, use GIS to implant dynamic speed limits on certain roads, and then host that information serverside and send constant signals which everyones car picks up. Reduce number of traffic officers or put them to use where necessary.
Last edited by Jewcano; 08-23-13 at 09:21 AM.
08-23-13, 09:23 AM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
08-23-13, 09:41 AM
#27
Lexus Fanatic
Depends what part of the country you are talking about. In a place like Montana or West Texas, you're probably right. However, a number of places in the country (especially Northeastern cities and the San Francisco area) are openly hostile to cars in general.
08-23-13, 10:36 AM
#28
Lexus Test Driver
All the other counties LOVE their fast cars in california so i imagine 98% to 2% on a bill like that 
08-24-13, 01:46 AM
#29
From a practical point how would one expect this to be done? Speed limits vary all over the nations, so the car somehow will have to know exactly what street it is on and what the speed limit is. Easy you say, GPS. Problem with GPS is it is dependent on the signal strength. Often my GPS will show me correctly on a 55 MPH freeway, then suddenly jump to the parallel road along the freeway which could be a 35MPH road. When this happens, would the car on the freeway suddenly only have a top speed of 35 MPH? The only way I see something like this being remotely possible if every road in the US has some sort of RFID signal that the cars tune into and gets the speed limit information from. The cost of such would be astronomical.
08-24-13, 08:42 AM
#30
Lexus Fanatic
From a practical point how would one expect this to be done? Speed limits vary all over the nations, so the car somehow will have to know exactly what street it is on and what the speed limit is. Easy you say, GPS. Problem with GPS is it is dependent on the signal strength. Often my GPS will show me correctly on a 55 MPH freeway, then suddenly jump to the parallel road along the freeway which could be a 35MPH road. When this happens, would the car on the freeway suddenly only have a top speed of 35 MPH? The only way I see something like this being remotely possible if every road in the US has some sort of RFID signal that the cars tune into and gets the speed limit information from. The cost of such would be astronomical.