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2015 Audi A8 and S8 get some new goodies



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Luxury car buyers are a demanding bunch. They've got this crazy notion that just because they're spending the better part of a hundred grand on a top-tier luxury sedan, they should get the very best and the cutting edge of what the industry has to offer. That has tended to come down to the S-Class even when it had grown long in the tooth, and now that Mercedes-Benz has rolled out an all-new version, the competition is falling all over itself to release updates to keep their flagship sedans in the running. Jaguar did that just yesterday with its XJ sedan, and now Audi has revealed the latest revisions to its A8 range.

Set to debut at the Frankfurt show in just a few weeks from now, the latest A8 (and its performance version, the S8) benefits from a series of stylistic, powertrain, and technology upgrades. Among the most prominent, of all things, are the new Matrix LED headlights that can automatically lower the high-beams for oncoming vehicles, with integrated turn signals that light up to point in the direction the driver's about to turn. But that's hardly the end of the story.

Audi has apparently reduced the output on the 3.0-liter supercharged V6 to from 328 horsepower to 310 but raised the 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 from 414 hp to 435, which now offers a 0-60 run of just 4.5 seconds. That's just three tenths behind the S8, which remains unchanged at 513 hp, as does the 493-hp 6.3-liter W12. The 3.0-liter TDI is up from 247 hp to 258, the 4.2-liter TDI grows from 345 hp to at 385 (with a massive 627 pound-feet of torque to boot) and the hybrid that offers a combined 245 hp and 354 lb-ft. That makes for one massive array of engines globally, although only some of them will be offered Stateside. Each is mated to an eight-speed automatic transmission and Quattro all-wheel drive, but thanks to the A8's lightweight construction, it's lighter than any other all-wheel-drive model in its class.

While the size of the standard model remains unchanged, Audi has added an extra five inches to the A8 L, and upgraded the interior with new trim options. The expanding suite of electronic nannies includes new active lane and parking assist systems, a new head-up display and night vision system that can recognize larger animals as well as humans. Buyers will be able to choose from new color options, wheels up to 21 inches in diameter and even carbon-ceramic brakes for eight- and twelve-cylinder models.


Ingolstadt, 2013-08-21
Composure redefined – the Audi A8

- Audi is honing the character of its flagship model
- More powerful engines, new assistance systems and innovative Matrix LED headlight technology
- Fuel consumption reductions across the board

Systematic lightweight construction, excellent comfort and a broad portfolio of high-end technologies: Audi has given its flagship, the A8, a wide-sweeping update. The engines are even more powerful and efficient, while new assistance systems and the innovative Matrix LED headlights provide for an added level of composure.

The new A8 places Audi among the innovation leaders in the luxury segment. One great strength of the big sedan is its lightweight construction. The Audi A8 3.0 TFSI with the normal wheelbase has a curb weight of just 1,830 kilograms (4,034.46 lb) – best-in-class for models with all-wheel drive. The body is made almost entirely of aluminum; an Audi Space Frame (ASF) design, it weighs just 231 kilograms (509.27 lb).

Length (5.14 meters [16.86 ft]), wheelbase (2.99 meters [9.81 ft]), width (1.95 meters [6.40 ft]) and height (1.46 meters [4.79 ft]) remain unchanged, making the Audi A8 the sportiest sedan in the segment. The A8 L gains an additional 13 centimeters (5.12 in) in both length and wheelbase. Both body variants feature a new trunk layout for easier loading. Additional noise damping measures reduce the already low interior noise level even further.

The dynamic design of the big sedan has become even more expressive. The engine hood, the Singleframe grille and the front bumper are even more sculptured; the lower edge of the headlight units is straight. In the German market, LED headlights are standard in all models with a V8 engine. Audi also offers optional headlights featuring Matrix LED technology, which sets new benchmarks with respect to design and technology. With these headlights, the high-beam comprises 25 individual light-emitting diodes per unit that can be switched on and off or dimmed individually depending on the situation.

This enables the headlight system to react extremely precisely to other vehicles while always brightly illuminating the road. Additional features of the new headlights are the intelligent cornering light, new-look daytime running lights and dynamic turn signals. The lighting system in the A8 uses predictive route data from the navigation system to adjust the distribution of light in response to the current driving situation. In combination with the optional Navigation plus with MMI touch, the system recognizes route data contained in the navigation system, such as curves and road classifications.

The LED lamps at the rear of the new Audi A8 have also become flatter. In all models except the S8, the redesigned bumper houses two rhomboid tailpipes. New chrome strips and high-gloss black window frames round out the differentiating design details. There is a choice of twelve colors, including five new ones. Wheels are available in sizes up to 21 inches.

The engines: more power and efficiency
Audi offer the A8 on the German market with two gasoline and two diesel engines. These are the supercharged 3.0 TFSI with 228 kW (310 hp), the V8 twin-turbo 4.0 TFSI with 320 kW (435 hp), the highly efficient 3.0 TDI clean diesel with 190 kW (258 hp) and the extremely high-torque 4.2 TDI clean diesel, which produces 283 kW (385 hp) and 850 Nm (626.93 lb-ft).

Performance has increased with most engines. When paired with quattro all-wheel drive, the 4.0 TFSI now accelerates the A8 from 0 to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 4.5 seconds. Under partial load, the Audi cylinder on demand (COD) system deactivates four of the eight cylinders. The most efficient engine is the 3.0 TDI clean diesel, which consumes just 5.9 liters of diesel per 100 kilometers (39.87 US mpg), which corresponds to 155 grams CO2 per kilometer (249.45 g/mile) All engines satisfy the Euro 6 standard. Friction-reducing measures reduce consumption by as much as 10 percent.

These variants are joined by three additional models. The top-of-the-line model is the luxuriously equipped Audi A8 L W12 quattro. Its gasoline engine is particularly short and lightweight thanks to its W layout. Displacing 6.3 liters, it produces 368 kW (500 hp). It also boasts best-in-class fuel consumption of 11.7 liters per 100 kilometers (20.10 US mpg), corresponding to 270 grams CO2 per kilometer (434.52 g/mile). It also has a COD system that was designed specifically for it. At low load, it deactivates the fuel injection and ignition for six cylinders. The available Active Noise Cancellation (ANC) ensures excellent acoustic comfort.

With 380 kW (520 hp), the S8 is Audi's big sports sedan. Paired with quattro all-wheel drive, its sonorous 4.0 TFSI accelerates the S8 from 0 to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 4.2 seconds. Average fuel consumption for the S8 is just 10.1 liters per 100 kilometers (23.29 US mpg), corresponding to 235 grams CO2 per kilometer (378.20 g/mile). The COD system plays a key role here, too. Active Noise Cancellation (ANC), a technology that is also used in the A8 4.0 TFSI quattro, the A8 L W12 quattro and the A8 hybrid, uses precise antiphase noise to compensate for intrusive noise in the cabin while operating on four cylinders while active engine mounts dampen vibration. The chassis and many body details reflect the sporty positioning of the S8.

The Audi A8 hybrid combines a 2.0 TFSI and electric motor to produce a system output of 180 kW (245 hp) and system torque of 480 Nm (354.03 lb-ft). The engine's power flows to the front wheels via a modified tiptronic. The lithium-ion battery in the rear enables purely electric driving at up to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) with a range of roughly three kilometers (1.86 miles). The A8 hybrid consumes on average just 6.3 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (147 grams CO2 per kilometer [37.34 US mpg/236.57 g/mile]).

The new A8 comes standard with a fast and smooth-shifting, eight-speed tiptronic. The electronically controlled automatic transmission is paired with quattro permanent all-wheel drive. Audi also offers an optional sport differential for the rear axle, which distributes the power between the rear wheels as needed. The sport differential is standard in the S8 and the A8 4.2 TDI clean diesel quattro.

The sedan owes its sporty character in large part to the sophisticated chassis. The Audi drive select system, which varies the function of various technology modules, is standard. It also controls the adaptive air suspension with adaptive damping. Audi offers the air suspension with a sporty setup upon request. The power steering uses an efficient electromechanical drive. Dynamic steering, which varies boost as a function of the speed driven, is available as an option. Carbon fiber ceramic brake discs are available for V8 models and the A8 L W12 quattro.

Another option is for 9 J x 20 aluminum-technology wheels which are based on forged support wheels. A special process joins the support wheel to a ten-spoke design element of high-strength polymer.

Hand-built character: The interior of the Audi A8
The interior of the Audi flagship dazzles with its elegant lines and generous spaciousness. Options for the front seats include ventilation and massage. Electrically adjustable, individual rear seats are available as an option for the A8 and the A8 L. The A8 L is also available with a continuous, leather-covered center console. The first-class solution here is the relaxation seat with power footrest. A large number of additional features are also available, from four-zone automatic air conditioning and power-assisted closing to a cooler.

All components in the new A8 have been carefully chosen and processed with the utmost precision. Each of the lovingly executed details documents the hand-built character of the interior. A new range of choices for seat coverings, inlays and colors is available in many areas. New additions include the woods Fine grain poplar brown-silver and Fine grain ash brown-gold natural as well as the leather Unikat, which is particularly natural-looking, soft and breathable.

The Audi design selection offers a preselection of exclusive materials and colors for the interior, including sycamore gray/marble gray. The design selection black/vermont brown with Carbon twill copper inlays is available for the Audi S8. The Audi exclusive range offers additional individualization options for particularly discerning customers.

As is typical for Audi, the new A8 features exemplarily clear controls despite the abundance of functions. Taking center stage is the MMI control element on the tunnel's center console. MMI navigation plus also includes a touchpad. The driver draws characters on the pad (MMI touch) to control numerous navigation and multimedia functions.

For more composed driving: the assistance systems
Driving is even more composed with the optional assistance systems. The adaptive cruise control with Stop&Go function is coupled with an expanded version of the standard Audi pre sense basic safety system. The same applies to Audi side assist. New in the A8 are Audi active lane assist, which makes slight steering adjustments when necessary, and the park assist system with 360° display, which handles steering when parking. The head-up display, which is also new, projects important data in the driver's field of vision on the windshield. The night vision assistant can now also recognize larger animals in addition to pedestrians.

Audi connect including car phone is available as a supplement to MMI navigation plus. It uses an integrated UMTS module to connect the new A8 to the Internet. Passengers can surf and e-mail freely via a WLAN hotspot. For the driver, the system delivers the tailored online services from Audi connect to the car, such as online traffic information, Google Earth, Google Street View and online news. The multimedia highlight is the Bang & Olufsen Advanced Sound System. The Rear Seat Entertainment system includes two displays, Bluetooth headphones and a DVD player.

The new Audi A8 is scheduled to arrive at German dealerships in November. Despite the upgraded trim level (standard LED headlights in all V8 models) and the powerful engines, prices are changing only slightly. Prices in Germany for the new Audi model start at 74,500 euros.
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very cool tech and I am loving the engine options. Every time I see my neighbors I am drooling. He has a black S8 and a Bentley Continental and my mouth is wide open every time he rolls by.

I love what Audi has been doing over the last 5 years. They are doing big things and the lines of their cars are always very classy and simple.
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An impressive array of engines indeed
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Such clean and modern lines up front. It's always interesting watching what Audi chooses next for their design language. I'd say Audi is about five years ahead of their peers when it comes to body styling and themes.

So I see they stole the TT's lower front grille. Nice, but it now has an overbite. The newly added chrome strip through the rear tails is very un-Audilike.... I'm going to have to get used to that. Headlights look great though. I predict everyone else will start adding in details to their headlights.

So what we have here is a heavily facelifted A8. Yet all the press and everyone keeps saying this is a "new A8." The current U.S. car has only been out for a couple of years. *This is not the new A8!*

Lastly, a drop in the base engine's output? I can't see this as a positive move in any way. If their main concern was it was too close in output to the upgraded engine, it would have been more kosher to raise the upgraded engine outputs. Thoughts?
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The Audi S8 is looking slick as ever.........and this facelift takes it even further

Also, the performance of this thing can easily beat the crap out of any non-V12 BMW 7 series.
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Originally Posted by Blackraven
Also, the performance of this thing can easily beat the crap out of any non-V12 BMW 7 series.
Hence the reason BMW has a 760i/Li and the Alpina B7, and Mercedes has the S600/S63/S65--it's not really fair to compare 6/8 cylinder models to 12 cylinder ones, especially when there's an equivalent model in the lineup. You don't see people talking about how the GT500 stomps all over the Camaro RS, because they're not really in the same market. But GT500 vs. ZL1 is ripe for comparison, and that's exactly what people do.

Back on topic, this thing sounds amazing, and it looks great to boot. I'm sure we're not going to get that glorious 627lbft 4.2L TDI here, which is a damn shame. AWD Tire-melt + 30mpg combined (guessing)=WIN.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Hence the reason BMW has a 760i/Li and the Alpina B7, and Mercedes has the S600/S63/S65--it's not really fair to compare 6/8 cylinder models to 12 cylinder ones, especially when there's an equivalent model in the lineup. You don't see people talking about how the GT500 stomps all over the Camaro RS, because they're not really in the same market. But GT500 vs. ZL1 is ripe for comparison, and that's exactly what people do.

Back on topic, this thing sounds amazing, and it looks great to boot. I'm sure we're not going to get that glorious 627lbft 4.2L TDI here, which is a damn shame. AWD Tire-melt + 30mpg combined (guessing)=WIN.
Speaking of which, it reminds of the old thread where Motor Trend tested the Audi S8 vs an Alpina B7

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-1-4-mile.html

Blew the Alpina out of the water.

The throttle response on the B7 was lousy and inadequate.

Between the two, I'm definitely taking the S8
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simply amazing.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
An impressive array of engines indeed
This.....the TDi is amazing
 
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
This.....the TDi is amazing
Not to dilute the model, but to increase sales, the LS needs a NA V6 offering, LS450h, and that LS650 TMG now more than ever to come to fruition
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Not to dilute the model, but to increase sales, the LS needs a NA V6 offering, LS450h, and that LS650 TMG now more than ever to come to fruition
sounds like a plan Hoovey.
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Not to dilute the model, but to increase sales, the LS needs a NA V6 offering, LS450h, and that LS650 TMG now more than ever to come to fruition
I'm as big of a Lexus fan as it gets and its really amazing to see the Audi onslaught. I mean they are just attacking and attacking and attacking. Their product placement in movies and shows is also incredible.

I much prefer these headlights. While the styling is super bland, proportions are nailed.

Lexus used to be a the forefront with engines and they really need to get it together and make some decisions. The bickering between hybrid, turbo, N/A is slowing things down.
 
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Not to dilute the model, but to increase sales, the LS needs a NA V6 offering, LS450h, and that LS650 TMG now more than ever to come to fruition
the LS definitely needs more engine options. i am still not a fan of na6, but tt6, hybrid 6, diesel, those are all going to boost the presence and coverage of the ls so much more

lexus is fighting hard with the ls, like using 2 swords fighting against 5
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
I much prefer these headlights.
Yeah, they look nicer.

Unfortunately, for you guys in Stateside, those headlights are not approved by American law as of the moment.

Something to do with some DOT/NHTSA regulation or whatnot.

In this case, it's not the fault of Audi........but rather on the US Government (well regards to that outdated regulation I mean).
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Not a fan of the current A8 exterior at all, way too bland and featureless, and a big step down in my opinion from the previous design which I loved. I do like the interior though, these new design details help and improve the exterior but I still prefer the previous model. The performance is very impressive for a car its size but I rarely ever see A8's on the road which is a shame.
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