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Old 10-06-14, 06:35 PM
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hoping final product will be a bit less bland looking even if performance is great.
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Originally Posted by Levi68
It would be really nice if GS F was hybrid. Would be the first luxury performance hybrid on the market, and alone that would make it stand out compared to competitors.

Few nice choices exist:
Tesla Model S
Porsche Panamera e-Hybrid

Lexus has had zero success with performance hybrids in US - LS600h and GS450h were sales failures.
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Old 10-06-14, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
hoping final product will be a bit less bland looking even if performance is great.
We don't want it to look over the top. Some of the first test mules we saw had some aero-gimmickery which I personally didn't care much for.

I think if you look at the RC-F, theres not a ton that differentiates it from the RC, front bumper, rear bumper, side vent, hood vent and wheels. Thats really it, and I think it looks great.
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Old 10-06-14, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
We don't want it to look over the top. Some of the first test mules we saw had some aero-gimmickery which I personally didn't care much for.

I think if you look at the RC-F, theres not a ton that differentiates it from the RC, front bumper, rear bumper, side vent, hood vent and wheels. Thats really it, and I think it looks great.
Agreed likewise for the M5 vs 550, they bodies are pretty much the same. In the case of both the 5 series and the GS, having serious rubber makes them look more bad ***.
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Old 10-06-14, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
Agreed likewise for the M5 vs 550, they bodies are pretty much the same. In the case of both the 5 series and the GS, having serious rubber makes them look more bad ***.
Couldn't agree more. Full spindle, side vents, stacked quad exhaust, and by all means, wider fender flares to fit meatier tires--that's it.
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Default 2015 Lexus GS 450h F SPORT Package Now Available in USA



The 2015 Lexus GS has been added to the Lexus USA website, and includes the full details on the new-to-USA GS 450h F SPORT package.

The new hybrid F SPORT package includes 19-inch staggered-width alloy wheels, larger front brakes with hi-friction pads, and an F SPORT tuned version of the standard Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) with Sport S+ mode.

The Lexus Handling Steering System with four-wheel steering is also available as an option.

While the GS 450h F SPORT is not yet included in the configurator, Lexus USA lists the starting price at $69,130 USD.
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2014/10/0...available-usa/
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Took 'em a while to figure it out that you need F-Sport package on your flagship midsize powertrain. Or they just counted on it as a refreshment down the road to spark the 450h interest again.

Like I said before the best four door all around vehicle Lexus currently has its lineup. Too bad it's overpriced.
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As much as I'd want F-Sport, I want the bamboo. Think they'd let me forgo the aluminum?
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
As much as I'd want F-Sport, I want the bamboo. Think they'd let me forgo the aluminum?
Nope, Jap cars are a fixed bento box, no substitutions

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Originally Posted by Levi68
It would be really nice if GS F was hybrid. Would be the first luxury performance hybrid on the market, and alone that would make it stand out compared to competitors.

THIS so very much.

Reason GS450h failed in the US ( but is thriving in the rest of the world) is that the GS450h doesn't have the straightline performance of the German mainstream V8s. As long as a theoretical hybrid GS-F has the performance to match an M5/E63MG/RS6 and is priced to compete, no one would hold its hybrid nature against it.

In fact, the instant on-demand torque of the electric component of its drivetrain would prove to be a selling point.

Originally Posted by Vladi
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Took 'em a while to figure it out that you need F-Sport package on your flagship midsize powertrain. Or they just counted on it as a refreshment down the road to spark the 450h interest again.

Like I said before the best four door all around vehicle Lexus currently has its lineup. Too bad it's overpriced.
Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
As much as I'd want F-Sport, I want the bamboo. Think they'd let me forgo the aluminum?
Co-signed to the above as well.

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Originally Posted by Levi68
It would be really nice if GS F was hybrid. Would be the first luxury performance hybrid on the market, and alone that would make it stand out compared to competitors.
it would likely be very heavy, and VERY expensive, and therefore, very uncompetitive. would still be a fun car though.
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Old 10-09-14, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it would likely be very heavy, and VERY expensive, and therefore, very uncompetitive. would still be a fun car though.
I think GTR proved to everybody that "heavier than competition" is not an obstacle and future NSX will just reinforce the notion. As long as the hefty technology provides more benefits to a car with its integration than without it I will always give it a thumbs up.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it would likely be very heavy, and VERY expensive, and therefore, very uncompetitive. would still be a fun car though.
It would not be as heavy, because it would not be a plug-in hybrid like the Germans, but as any other Lexus hybrid. It would also not be more expensive than the M5/RS6/E AMG, because the GS F would be cheaper overall, adding hybrid would just cover up the price difference. And the RC F is heavier than the M4, yet we don't feel its weight, what is not the case of the M4, which is lighter but feels heavier.
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Old 10-09-14, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by natnut
THIS so very much.

Reason GS450h failed in the US ( but is thriving in the rest of the world) is that the GS450h doesn't have the straightline performance of the German mainstream V8s. As long as a theoretical hybrid GS-F has the performance to match an M5/E63MG/RS6 and is priced to compete, no one would hold its hybrid nature against it.

In fact, the instant on-demand torque of the electric component of its drivetrain would prove to be a selling point.




Co-signed to the above as well.
reason GS450h "failed" is the price... it never stood the chance at these prices. On the other hand, ES300h and RX450h do great/decent sales because of the price which is not that much higher than ES350 and RX350.

Most people buy base model engines, that includes German vehicles... very few buy V8's anymore.
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Old 10-09-14, 07:14 AM
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Also, Lexus has never advertised this generation of GS... that doesn't help much.
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