Spy Shots: Next Gen BMW 5-Series
09-08-16, 11:26 PM
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Avid BMW guy here. Personally, I think BMW is playing it too safe as a brand lately. The current 5 is a handsome car and this new one will be too, but it will be very evolutionary inside and out. That can all be tolerated if it were head's and shoulders above the competition in the driving experience. Yet, since the days of the E60, E90, E70, etc. BMWs have become softer and more numb. Their powertrains are still the best in the business, but that connection with the road isn't even near what it used to be. Only some of the ///M cars are still good. Your average 320 BMW drives like a Toyota.
BMW is designing cars to be #1 in sales instead of being true to their heritage. I hope this approach bites them in the a$$ one day.
BMW is designing cars to be #1 in sales instead of being true to their heritage. I hope this approach bites them in the a$$ one day.
In my opinion the post-facelift E65 is one of the most handsome sedans ever. It had a real presence and charisma that was missing in the F01 and is missing in the newest 7-series as well. Instead of looking like a distinct 7-series, the F01 and G11 just look like "big BMWs." Sales of the newest 7er have been slow and reports are saying that internal sources are pitting the blame on conservative styling inside and out. It's a nice car just like the A8, and with the right options catches the eye. But the Audi and Bimmer are missing that "it" factor that the latest S-class has.
BMW management has really gone to h3ll since the E89 Z4 was released. Every subsequent new model has been a "better" car overall with more technology and luxury features, but are they better BMWs? Not in a million years!
BMW management has really gone to h3ll since the E89 Z4 was released. Every subsequent new model has been a "better" car overall with more technology and luxury features, but are they better BMWs? Not in a million years!
10-03-16, 07:01 PM
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New BMW M5 Arriving In Late 2017 With Over 600HP And All-Wheel Drive
The next iteration of BMW’s super saloon will represent a major turning point, as the new M5 is reportedly going to power all of its wheels instead just the rear axle, though it's believed that a RWD version will still be on offer.
Rumors of BMW M’s decision to give the next M5 an all-wheel drive system have been around for quite some time, but now it’s the first time we get to hear it from a BMW official.
BMW M boss Frank van Meel, who previously worked at Audi, told Auto Express that “the M5 has to drive like an M5 does today, but with better traction as well.” Blame the never-ending power war within the segment but in order for the new M5 to get more than 600hp safely on the road, an all-wheel drive system was deemed necessary.
But this doesn’t mean that the all-wheel drive BMW M5 will be less of an exciting car. “We don’t want to ruin the balance. An M car must have agility, precision, and dynamics”, said van Meel. “These are cars designed for the track.”
The BMW M boss has said in the past that despite opting for an all-wheel drive system, the new M5 will always behave like a rear-wheel drive car. That means that they will probably go for a trick rear-biased system that can shift torque to the front when necessary.
Van Meel has previously spoken about the new M5's all-wheel drive system, saying “It wouldn’t be branded as xDrive. We have to be sensitive about equity built up with rear-wheel drive.”
Let’s not forget that one of its biggest rivals, the new Mercedes-AMG E63 is also getting an AWD system and according to the latest reports, it will have a dedicated drift mode, during which the car will send all of its power to the rear axle alone.
Rumors of BMW M’s decision to give the next M5 an all-wheel drive system have been around for quite some time, but now it’s the first time we get to hear it from a BMW official.
BMW M boss Frank van Meel, who previously worked at Audi, told Auto Express that “the M5 has to drive like an M5 does today, but with better traction as well.” Blame the never-ending power war within the segment but in order for the new M5 to get more than 600hp safely on the road, an all-wheel drive system was deemed necessary.
But this doesn’t mean that the all-wheel drive BMW M5 will be less of an exciting car. “We don’t want to ruin the balance. An M car must have agility, precision, and dynamics”, said van Meel. “These are cars designed for the track.”
The BMW M boss has said in the past that despite opting for an all-wheel drive system, the new M5 will always behave like a rear-wheel drive car. That means that they will probably go for a trick rear-biased system that can shift torque to the front when necessary.
Van Meel has previously spoken about the new M5's all-wheel drive system, saying “It wouldn’t be branded as xDrive. We have to be sensitive about equity built up with rear-wheel drive.”
Let’s not forget that one of its biggest rivals, the new Mercedes-AMG E63 is also getting an AWD system and according to the latest reports, it will have a dedicated drift mode, during which the car will send all of its power to the rear axle alone.
10-04-16, 06:58 AM
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awd for the win! only way to get decent traction with gobs of power. otherwise it ends up driving like a stupid and dangerous dodge viper.
10-04-16, 07:11 AM
#51
Also, have you ever driven an AWD BMW? That's quite the blanket statement to make, and is 100% inaccurate.
10-04-16, 07:34 AM
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The LFA had a measly 354 lb ft of torque. Totally different story.
10-04-16, 08:21 AM
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Unfortunately this segment now requires AWD to get the crazy spec #s of a low to mid 3sec 0-60mph time.
My M3 with Michelin Pilot SuperSports can spin for days if you bash the throttle - the M5 with loads more power has even greater traction issues.
My M3 with Michelin Pilot SuperSports can spin for days if you bash the throttle - the M5 with loads more power has even greater traction issues.
10-04-16, 08:23 AM
#56
The Viper actually became a lot more docile and accessible (outside of ACR form) as time went on and it got more powerful. In any event sports cars handle RWD + lots of power better than a hopped up sedan, so I'm OK with the AWD addition.
The LFA had a measly 354 lb ft of torque. Totally different story.
The LFA had a measly 354 lb ft of torque. Totally different story.
10-04-16, 08:28 AM
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The real question is whether the next M3 will be AWD. Audi will obviously field a AWD variant but Benz stayed with RWD.
10-04-16, 08:36 AM
#58
AMG's sports cars and smaller sedans especially actually corner quite well, so that's a little outdated. In any event consumers are asking for ever-lower specs and the security of AWD, so manufacturers are delivering. The market has changed in mid-size and larger segments.
The real question is whether the next M3 will be AWD. Audi will obviously field a AWD variant but Benz stayed with RWD.
The real question is whether the next M3 will be AWD. Audi will obviously field a AWD variant but Benz stayed with RWD.
10-10-16, 05:21 AM
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BMW Previews 5-Series Remote 3D View Before October 13 Reveal
The latest in a long line of BMW 5-Seriesteasers has been released with this one confirming an October 13 reveal date for the new luxury sedan.
This particular teaser video provides a glimpse at the model's advanced Remote 3D View feature. The system will allow the owner of the vehicle to view a virtual depiction of their car and its surroundings from the BMW Connected App, helping to give weary owners peace of mind that their car is safe (or isn't) at all times.
Although we don't get a proper look at the new 5-Series in the teaser video, big changes are expected from both a styling and technology perspective.
In terms of its exterior design, the G30 5-Series will take some inspiration from the larger 7-Series, particularly through its all-new headlights and LED taillights. In the cabin, the model will come with a partially digital instrument cluster as well as a large standalone infotainment screen above the center console.
Beneath the skin, the underpinnings for the 2017 5-Series will also be new and be shared with the 7-Series, meaning a mix of aluminum, carbon fiber, magnesium and high-strength steel will be used in the car's construction. Consequently, it should drop around 100 kg (220 lbs) over the outgoing model.
Power will be provided by a series of engines that include a 2.0-liter turbo'd four-cylinder, 3.0-liter straight-six diesel and petrol units, a 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8 and a 2.0-liter turbo four joined by an electric motor for a plug-in hybrid variation.
This particular teaser video provides a glimpse at the model's advanced Remote 3D View feature. The system will allow the owner of the vehicle to view a virtual depiction of their car and its surroundings from the BMW Connected App, helping to give weary owners peace of mind that their car is safe (or isn't) at all times.
Although we don't get a proper look at the new 5-Series in the teaser video, big changes are expected from both a styling and technology perspective.
In terms of its exterior design, the G30 5-Series will take some inspiration from the larger 7-Series, particularly through its all-new headlights and LED taillights. In the cabin, the model will come with a partially digital instrument cluster as well as a large standalone infotainment screen above the center console.
Beneath the skin, the underpinnings for the 2017 5-Series will also be new and be shared with the 7-Series, meaning a mix of aluminum, carbon fiber, magnesium and high-strength steel will be used in the car's construction. Consequently, it should drop around 100 kg (220 lbs) over the outgoing model.
Power will be provided by a series of engines that include a 2.0-liter turbo'd four-cylinder, 3.0-liter straight-six diesel and petrol units, a 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8 and a 2.0-liter turbo four joined by an electric motor for a plug-in hybrid variation.
10-10-16, 11:56 AM
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^^ so you'll be able to remotely watch that door ding happen in the mall parking lot. 
