View Poll Results: What do you think about the new TLX?
I like it; I think it looks great.
32
36.36%
I hate it; it looks bland, boring, and ugly.
13
14.77%
I have mix feelings / It is just ok at best.
43
48.86%
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2015 Acura TLX Discussion
04-24-14, 07:56 PM
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BTW, from personal experience, I think the "poor reliability" of German cars is a bit over-stated on here. I've had a few minor issues with my 335i, but had way more issues with my RAV4. Many of them are not even poor in Consumer Reports. Lots make at least average, which is pretty good, especially if you limit the techno gadgetry options, like headlamp washers and other junk. You can order a BMW as complicated and gadget laden as you want. But it's precisely all of that stuff that makes the cars less reliable. Order a simple one and surprise surprise, they're much more reliable simply because there's less to go wrong.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ty-survey.html
04-25-14, 04:30 AM
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That's just engine reliability. There are many many points of failure in a car. And even a "failure" in the engine category doesn't necessarily mean that you're stranded on the side of the road dead. Big difference.
04-25-14, 05:24 AM
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I, for one, would not be interested in a car with an unreliable engine...
04-25-14, 07:03 AM
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Why don't we flip these engine failure stats around a bit.
Honda (1 in 344) = 99.7% are fine
Toyota (1 in 171) = 99.4% are fine
Mercedes (1 in 119) = 99.1% are fine
Lexus (1 in 101) = 99.0% are fine
Ford (1 in 80) = 98.8% are fine
BMW (1 in 45) = 97.8% are fine
Audi (1 in 27) = 96.3% are fine
MG Rover (1 in 13) = 92.3% are fine
Now what do you think? Would this even be a story had they presented the stats in this way rather than how they did? The same applies to Consumer Reports and their own ratings system. Gotta be careful. Lots of black dots doesn't necessarily mean "unreliable". It means less reliable than average, but the difference is often only a few percentage points of difference.
Back to the TLX.... Considering Acura's reputation for lousy transmissions, I'd be wary of a 1st year model simply because of the brand new trannys. I think Acura has learned their lesson by now, but there's definitely a lot of new tech in these cars that certainly isn't foolproof. Then again that's what a warranty is for... I'd prefer not to buy a first year model, but if my Bimmer's engine blows up and I don't feel like dealing with it anymore, I might very well find myself at an Acura dealership checking one of these out.
Honda (1 in 344) = 99.7% are fine
Toyota (1 in 171) = 99.4% are fine
Mercedes (1 in 119) = 99.1% are fine
Lexus (1 in 101) = 99.0% are fine
Ford (1 in 80) = 98.8% are fine
BMW (1 in 45) = 97.8% are fine
Audi (1 in 27) = 96.3% are fine
MG Rover (1 in 13) = 92.3% are fine
Now what do you think? Would this even be a story had they presented the stats in this way rather than how they did? The same applies to Consumer Reports and their own ratings system. Gotta be careful. Lots of black dots doesn't necessarily mean "unreliable". It means less reliable than average, but the difference is often only a few percentage points of difference.
Back to the TLX.... Considering Acura's reputation for lousy transmissions, I'd be wary of a 1st year model simply because of the brand new trannys. I think Acura has learned their lesson by now, but there's definitely a lot of new tech in these cars that certainly isn't foolproof. Then again that's what a warranty is for... I'd prefer not to buy a first year model, but if my Bimmer's engine blows up and I don't feel like dealing with it anymore, I might very well find myself at an Acura dealership checking one of these out.
04-25-14, 07:51 AM
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It always tickles me threads about a GT3 or some other amazing car gets minimal responses but Camry, Civic, TL(X), Accord get 1,000 posts 
While the Germans and now Lexus have moved to turbo 4 cylinders, the new TLX 4 cylinder still has no forced induction and gains a whopping 1hp or so over the TSX I-4 (I think it has more torque). Whats even more odd is they had a boosted 4 in the RDX years ago. Really weird they can't re-visit it and figure out how to make it more efficient as it made good power. The V-6 is now down 15hp compared to the last model, when everyone is at least staying where they were or moving up. Yes MPG is up but everyone else is adding more power and more MPG.
The RLX hybrid has been delayed since December and still no show and its nearly May.
While the Germans and now Lexus have moved to turbo 4 cylinders, the new TLX 4 cylinder still has no forced induction and gains a whopping 1hp or so over the TSX I-4 (I think it has more torque). Whats even more odd is they had a boosted 4 in the RDX years ago. Really weird they can't re-visit it and figure out how to make it more efficient as it made good power. The V-6 is now down 15hp compared to the last model, when everyone is at least staying where they were or moving up. Yes MPG is up but everyone else is adding more power and more MPG.
The RLX hybrid has been delayed since December and still no show and its nearly May.
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04-25-14, 07:58 AM
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It's not just because of the twin turbos, the N55 just has less tuning potential in general. It doesn't have forged internals like early N54 engines and it has valvetronic. The N55 was made for a better balance efficiency, emissions, and power.
04-25-14, 08:00 AM
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04-25-14, 08:02 AM
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It always tickles me threads about a GT3 or some other amazing car gets minimal responses but Camry, Civic, TL(X), Accord get 1,000 posts
While the Germans and now Lexus have moved to turbo 4 cylinders, the new TLX 4 cylinder still has no forced induction and gains a whopping 1hp or so over the TSX I-4 (I think it has more torque). Whats even more odd is they had a boosted 4 in the RDX years ago. Really weird they can't re-visit it and figure out how to make it more efficient as it made good power. The V-6 is now down 15hp compared to the last model, when everyone is at least staying where they were or moving up. Yes MPG is up but everyone else is adding more power and more MPG.
The RLX hybrid has been delayed since December and still no show and its nearly May.
While the Germans and now Lexus have moved to turbo 4 cylinders, the new TLX 4 cylinder still has no forced induction and gains a whopping 1hp or so over the TSX I-4 (I think it has more torque). Whats even more odd is they had a boosted 4 in the RDX years ago. Really weird they can't re-visit it and figure out how to make it more efficient as it made good power. The V-6 is now down 15hp compared to the last model, when everyone is at least staying where they were or moving up. Yes MPG is up but everyone else is adding more power and more MPG.
The RLX hybrid has been delayed since December and still no show and its nearly May.
