Allen K

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I disagree. Reliability is great when you're selling mainstream, workhorse cars like the Accord/Camry, but when it comes to luxury you have to offer some excess and Acura offers none of that. In order for them to get to the top, they need a whole new line up that consists of more than 1 Civic based sedan, 2 Accord based sedans, and 2 SUVs. Will the NSX help? Definitely...if it ever gets released.

spwolf

Well, I think in Europe, VW/Audi rates as least reliable out of 3... could be because of their diesels.

jsanders

Great post, agree 100%

Hoovey689

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5-Series and XF also use a 2.0T as a base unit. Those put out around 240hp and a bit more torque.

LexBob2

One thing good about these offerings is, say your buying an A6, you have your choice of 2.0t, 3.0t, 3.0TDI or the high performance S6. Choice is good.

Hoovey689

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I personally wouldn't get the 2.0 (I tend to be a power snob), but as you say it gives choice which is good. Not to mention it lowers the price vs the higher engines, and gets decent mileage and power

LexBob2

Even a family hauler like the Q5 is available with the same engine varieties as the A6 plus a hybrid. I think they're trying to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. How much is too much? is hard to tell.

Stormwind

sad, sad situation.

Hoovey689

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To me it makes sense to implement the engine throughout the line-up, and they do change the output on some models like the new TT puts out 300hp or even dumb it down for the more mainstream VW models, so it is versatile. Some though would argue that a four banger in a Luxury badge is blasphemy, and while it could be true that they are less smooth and whatnot, if government mandates better fuel economy well that's not exactly the automakers fault, they just have to abide by the rules best they can.

But I digress, this thread is about the TLX. These latest shots make it look uninspiring vs the concept and they aren't that far off save for a few changes in the bumper. Hopefully it does something for Acura, because they and Lincoln are next on the chopping block if say the TLX or MKC can't get anything going for them. Personally I'd say within 3 years we'll see if the parent companies Honda and Ford can turn them around or choose to put them to pasture.

Allen K

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I know you're hoping for the 3.7L hybrid, but if they shoehorn the system in the Accord hybrid into the TLX, I'd definitely be interested in it.

Hoovey689

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Boy the ES300h would have fits if they did that

Allen K

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But it makes too much sense so they probably won't do it

Lex2InfiN

Extremely doubtful that Honda would ever axe Acura. They are far too successful with the MDX & RDX that those 2 models alone are enough to carry the brand. What they should do is probably axe the RLX if in 3 years it still sells in the horrible numbers it does today (likely). There is no reason to keep the RLX around in my opinion when it doesn't distinguish itself enough from the TL/TLX in performance and features. It is still not big enough in size to compete with the LS, S-Class, and others, and is still based off the Accord. At this rate, they should probably just keep the TLX & ILX as their sedans, the MDX & RDX as their SUVs, and the NSX & possibly add a new entry level coupe (new RDX?) as their coupes and leave it at that.


They would be seriously foolish not to use the Accord hybrid setup in any new Acura hybrid going forward. If they continue to use the IMA system at this point, then they are clearly lost as a company. It's a no-brainer to use the newer highly more efficient system.

Hoovey689

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fixed for you

Lex2InfiN

Thanks. Right, I meant RSX obviously. I don't know why they gave up on that model in the first place. Seemed pretty popular at the time and sold decently. Just another poor business decision on their part.