Should running a red light at an empty intersection be legalized?
06-06-13, 09:11 AM
#31
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That's exactly my point that they don;t know what the hell they're doing. Calming traffic is to reduce it's speed and increase flow not to STOP it. Yield sign on the other hand is it a calming traffic measure.
That is the reason why Stop sign is never considered a traffic calming measure.
This technique was invented in Europe so I guess americans didn;t quite got it right.
That is the reason why Stop sign is never considered a traffic calming measure.
This technique was invented in Europe so I guess americans didn;t quite got it right.
06-06-13, 09:24 AM
#32
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I don't want to get too far off the thread-topic (running red lights) ....but one thing that p***es me off about neighborhoods that want more and more of these traffic-impeding devices is that they seem to think that their residential streets are their own little private fiefdoms......even though everyone pays taxes to support (and freely use) these streets.
06-06-13, 09:32 AM
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agreed they have them all across Europe and as well as the middle east...
06-06-13, 10:17 AM
#34
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Look forward-look left-look right-look behind you.
No other cars around, no cops, AND no traffic cam..........use your discretion
Besides, how often does this come up?
We don't need politicians, flying in their jet, staying at exp. hotels, wasting more $$$ to propose another bill
No other cars around, no cops, AND no traffic cam..........use your discretion
Besides, how often does this come up?
We don't need politicians, flying in their jet, staying at exp. hotels, wasting more $$$ to propose another bill
I don't know if it should be legalized, but I do it ALL THE TIME.
Really, they should just be on flashers anyway at a certain time. Too many red lights in my suburban neighberhood after 10pm.
And I certainly don't follow all the traffic laws when I'm on my 10-speed. I will stop at the light, but if the intersection is clear, I'm going.....even if it's rush hour.
I wish some cop would pull me over on my 10-speed.
Last edited by KevinGS; 06-06-13 at 10:21 AM.
06-06-13, 10:48 AM
#35
Easy answer.
Go to India.
Everybody over there is allowed (not legally though, but they still do) to make an executive decision to cross the intersection with a red light when there is no traffic. This accompanied by a blaring horn, akin to yelling Fore at a Golf game earns you the right to cross the road.
Even this truck (and all others too) agree to that rule.
Go to India.
Everybody over there is allowed (not legally though, but they still do) to make an executive decision to cross the intersection with a red light when there is no traffic. This accompanied by a blaring horn, akin to yelling Fore at a Golf game earns you the right to cross the road.
Even this truck (and all others too) agree to that rule.
Last edited by chikoo; 06-06-13 at 10:55 AM.
06-06-13, 11:01 AM
#39
Here, in the U.S., they are considered 'traffic-calming" measures. Neighborhood civic groups want them, figuring they will deter potential traffic onto main roads. Well, most of the time, they don't deter traffic....they just add to the number of times you have to brake/accelerate, putting more wear and tear on your car.
I have called them out as "equalizers" as they prevent people driving faster than the speed limit to actually reach their destination any faster than the one who is driving at the speed limit.
06-06-13, 11:33 AM
#40
I think a big problem in the U.S. is the idea of right-of-way.
Americans want to be first, go get them, "I'm important", and "It's all about me!" self-entitled mentality. This applies to roundabouts, intersections, and such.
Pair that with a litigious mentality, and we've got lawyers hoping for more "I had the right of way" accidents, only proving that most drivers out there are selfish *******s.
Americans want to be first, go get them, "I'm important", and "It's all about me!" self-entitled mentality. This applies to roundabouts, intersections, and such.
Pair that with a litigious mentality, and we've got lawyers hoping for more "I had the right of way" accidents, only proving that most drivers out there are selfish *******s.
06-06-13, 11:43 AM
#41
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I think a big problem in the U.S. is the idea of right-of-way.
Americans want to be first, go get them, "I'm important", and "It's all about me!" self-entitled mentality. This applies to roundabouts, intersections, and such.
Pair that with a litigious mentality, and we've got lawyers hoping for more "I had the right of way" accidents, only proving that most drivers out there are selfish *******s.
Americans want to be first, go get them, "I'm important", and "It's all about me!" self-entitled mentality. This applies to roundabouts, intersections, and such.
Pair that with a litigious mentality, and we've got lawyers hoping for more "I had the right of way" accidents, only proving that most drivers out there are selfish *******s.
so true
06-06-13, 12:44 PM
#42
Has anyone experienced a "continuous flow intersection'? http://www.continuousflowintersections.org/
They seem like pretty interesting concepts.
And then of course there are "michigan lefts" in which you either overshoot the road and make a u-turn, and then a right turn. Or turn right, and then make a u-turn.
They seem like pretty interesting concepts.
And then of course there are "michigan lefts" in which you either overshoot the road and make a u-turn, and then a right turn. Or turn right, and then make a u-turn.
06-06-13, 02:37 PM
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Would definetly take me some time to understand that if i had to drive on it.
Has anyone experienced a "continuous flow intersection'? http://www.continuousflowintersections.org/
They seem like pretty interesting concepts.
And then of course there are "michigan lefts" in which you either overshoot the road and make a u-turn, and then a right turn. Or turn right, and then make a u-turn.
They seem like pretty interesting concepts.
And then of course there are "michigan lefts" in which you either overshoot the road and make a u-turn, and then a right turn. Or turn right, and then make a u-turn.
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