First Cadillac ELR rolls off the line
10-11-13, 03:04 PM
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I hate the fact we are paying people from my tax dollars to buy any kind of car.
If people want an economical car buy a compact car that gets good fuel economy, if people can afford $68k for this or a Tesla then they don't need any tax credit.
Let the market determine what people will pay, not fair to give away all of our tax dollars to subsidize these BS cars.
If people want an economical car buy a compact car that gets good fuel economy, if people can afford $68k for this or a Tesla then they don't need any tax credit.
Let the market determine what people will pay, not fair to give away all of our tax dollars to subsidize these BS cars.
10-11-13, 04:10 PM
#32
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I'm not understand this. What is the reason for the hybrid power if it's going to cost you way more than you'd ever spend in gas.
I mean could you not buy a Audi TT or some other coupe and have $30K left over for gas basically free gas for 10 years?
Unless it's being sold for it's looks in which case could they not just put a powerful I-4 turbo AWD and make it perform like something and never mind the fuel economy?
I mean could you not buy a Audi TT or some other coupe and have $30K left over for gas basically free gas for 10 years?
Unless it's being sold for it's looks in which case could they not just put a powerful I-4 turbo AWD and make it perform like something and never mind the fuel economy?
10-14-13, 10:13 AM
#33
GM is high, smoking some really good stuff, let's do a fun comparison:
Model S 85: $74k, 85kWh, 362 hp, 265 miles EV range, 0-60 in 5.4 secs
ELR: $75k, 16.5 kWh, 149 hp, 35 miles EV range, 0-60 in 8.8 secs
The only similar # I see is the price? So awesome
Tesla must be shaking now.
Model S 85: $74k, 85kWh, 362 hp, 265 miles EV range, 0-60 in 5.4 secs
ELR: $75k, 16.5 kWh, 149 hp, 35 miles EV range, 0-60 in 8.8 secs
The only similar # I see is the price? So awesome
Tesla must be shaking now.
05-13-14, 03:55 AM
#34
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General Motors is offering Cadillac dealers a $5,000 incentive to offer test drives of its ELR plug-in hybrid, which has gotten off to a slow start since its launch 5 months ago.
GM is calling the offer the Demonstrator Allowance Program, and it is designed as a tactical move to help register more test drives, said Cadillac spokesman David Caldwell. He also said it probably will take awhile for widespread consumer awareness about the ELR.
“We want to do it because of the newness of the ELR,” Caldwell said. “It’s a different brand.”
GM also is offering up to $3,000 in customer discounts toward the lease or purchase price of an ELR, The Wall Street Journal reported last week.
The moves come as ELR inventories continue to grow. At the end of April, GM had 1,700 ELR coupe models in stock, which is a 725-day supply, according to the Automotive News Data Center.
Caldwell said GM’s Detroit-Hamtramck plant, which assembles the ELR, has had heavier production since the beginning of the year than it will in the summer or fall, which could be the explanation for the inventory backup.
Industry analysts have a different opinion. The ELR went on sale in late December starting at $75,995, including shipping. Analysts and dealers have criticized that price -- twice that of the Chevrolet Volt, which shares its powertrain with the ELR.
The ELR is the 2nd vehicle to get GM’s Voltec technology, which uses a 435-pound battery pack and 2 electric motors for an estimated electric range of about 35 miles. Once the charge is depleted, a gasoline-powered, 1.4-liter, 4-cylinder generator kicks on to power the drivetrain.
The Volt’s U.S. sales fell 7% through April compared with the year-earlier period, to 5,154 units.
The Demonstrator Allowance Program is part of a nationwide effort to get more dealers to back and support test drives, Caldwell said. He said Cadillac has had a lot of success with similar programs on the West Coast.
Dealers have until June 2 to designate ELRs as test vehicles. The program will pay $5,000 for each ELR assigned to the test fleet. Dealers with fewer than seven unused ELR models in stock may designate one for the demonstrator program, and those with more than seven ELRs in their inventory can designate two as test vehicles to qualify for $10,000 in payouts. Each vehicle must accumulate a minimum of 750 logged test drive miles.
On top of that, dealers can collect an additional $2,000 for every ELR sold in July and an extra $1,000 for every 1 sold in August.
05-13-14, 08:36 AM
#35
So over a 2-year supply. No suprises here, folks!
An identical powertrain, in some new body work, for twice the price. It probably doesn't help the same money buys a solid, 420 HP full size sedan which happens to be sitting right next to it on the dealer lot.
An identical powertrain, in some new body work, for twice the price. It probably doesn't help the same money buys a solid, 420 HP full size sedan which happens to be sitting right next to it on the dealer lot.
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