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Old 12-27-14, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I lost track of your thread. Is the S63 the one you decided on?
Yes. I was seriously going to go with the S65, but the Benz dealer talked me out of it if you can believe that.

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Didn't know you were getting one! How exciting. Can't wait to see pics.
Will post them up when it gets here. Still a long , long wait though.
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Old 12-29-14, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Yes. I was seriously going to go with the S65, but the Benz dealer talked me out of it if you can believe that.

Will post them up when it gets here. Still a long , long wait though.
wow takes that long? or you ordered something special?

i can't wait to hear from you about the car!
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Old 12-29-14, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rominl
wow takes that long? or you ordered something special?

i can't wait to hear from you about the car!
Surprisingly long wait for the S sedan, locally, I saw an unsold S65 sittin in a dealership showroom, but the S class coupe right now is special order only here, and I was told an 8 -10 months wait .......
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
Surprisingly long wait for the S sedan, locally, I saw an unsold S65 sittin in a dealership showroom, but the S class coupe right now is special order only here, and I was told an 8 -10 months wait .......
agreed, i have seen a few s63 on the lot these days, and also a s65 for sale too. so my guess is dave is ordering something like designo?

the coupe though is very hot, it's also in shortage here.
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Old 12-29-14, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
Surprisingly long wait for the S sedan, locally, I saw an unsold S65 sittin in a dealership showroom, but the S class coupe right now is special order only here, and I was told an 8 -10 months wait .......
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wow takes that long? or you ordered something special?

i can't wait to hear from you about the car!
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agreed, i have seen a few s63 on the lot these days, and also a s65 for sale too. so my guess is dave is ordering something like designo?

the coupe though is very hot, it's also in shortage here.
Wow, you guys have it good. I had to go to the other side of Osaka to just test drive one (4 hours drive for me). They seem to be a car that is made to order here. And

But to answer your question, I ordered nothing special, just the drivers package as it is called here. It just adds a few driver enhancements and was about an extra $10K.





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those are some heart pounding price tags! ouch!!!
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Originally Posted by rominl
those are some heart pounding price tags! ouch!!!
Yeah, they hit you real good over here. I never did understand why the huge price difference from the US to here.

There is only a $20-30K difference between the RR Ghost and the S63, the S65 is more expensive.
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Yeah, they hit you real good over here. I never did understand why the huge price difference from the US to here.

There is only a $20-30K difference between the RR Ghost and the S63, the S65 is more expensive.
Wow, who want a S65 over a Ghost?!
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Yes. I was seriously going to go with the S65, but the Benz dealer talked me out of it if you can believe that.
Care to share why the dealer suggest you getting the 63 over the 65?

I thought it is easy to get a nice car in Japan, I guess I am wrong. Just saw a white S63 today on the freeway, many on the street here now.
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Old 12-30-14, 01:28 AM
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Wow, who want a S65 over a Ghost?!
I was considering a Ghost, but the AMG is just that much more fun to drive. And I was going to get a RR I would get a Phantom, but again that car does not appeal to me. On the other hand if I was looking for status I would get a RR.

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Care to share why the dealer suggest you getting the 63 over the 65?
I thought it is easy to get a nice car in Japan, I guess I am wrong. Just saw a white S63 today on the freeway, many on the street here now.
The dealer rmarked on how much sportier the S63 and how there is not much difference in acceleration between the two. Also was and the fact that the S65 takes a dive when reselling. I am not one to flush cash down the toilet, so I went with the S63.

Easy, the RR Phantom is over $500K.
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Wow, who want a S65 over a Ghost?!
I would.

Personal opinion:
For me though, the Phantom is for OLD PEOPLE (e.g. Warren Buffet type) due to its very conservative styling. It's also more of a car to be driven or chauffeured.

Point being: If you want an RR that you yourself will drive, then get a Wraith.

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Yeah, they hit you real good over here. I never did understand why the huge price difference from the US to here.
Don't forget that you guys have annual registration taxes and I think there is a tax on the size of your vehicle. Also, the increase in consumption/sales tax (courtesy of 'Abenomics') from 5% to 8% (with a possibility to increase to 10%) may have some effect although I'm not sure as to how much.

Of course, another thing is import tax and customs fees (due to shipping and logistics).
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Wow, who want a S65 over a Ghost?!
I have not driven a S65 but I have plenty of seat time in a Ghost. That car does not enjoy "impolite" maneuvers in the slightest. It's has a very soft suspension with plenty of body roll and generally doesn't like to be hustled. Once it takes a set it is stable through a corners though.

But that's not what a Rolls Royce is about- it's supposed to be a bit vulgar and supposed to be the definition of a luxury car. So for most people who drive themselves- the S65 (or Flying Spur) might seem like a better option.
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i am kind of thinking the same. between the s65 and s63, it's really not that much difference unless you care about out rocketing everyone above 100mph, which i assume isn't easy in japan. and given the huge price tag in japan, for the price if i want status i might as well do phantom.

i fully understand the status meaning of rr, but i am also not a big fan of it, a bit too old school and "boring" for me. i have driven the phantom, you are so isolated and the car is so heavy there is zero fun. yes you would probably like to be just being driven around in that

dave, i am also very surprised about the price tag of the mb s amg in japan, seems like they are just expensive for no reason, when they are touching the ghost price already
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Originally Posted by Blackraven
I would.

Personal opinion:
For me though, the Phantom is for OLD PEOPLE (e.g. Warren Buffet type) due to its very conservative styling. It's also more of a car to be driven or chauffeured.

Point being: If you want an RR that you yourself will drive, then get a Wraith.
S class sedan is mostly for old people too maybe with some occasional exceptions , but I agree that you should be chauffeured in any RR sedan.

I would take a RR Wraith over the S65 coupe though, not because it's better or even as good a car, but because of exclusivity at that price range. The S65 just looks almost the same as the much cheaper S550 ......
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Originally Posted by rominl
i am also very surprised about the price tag of the mb s amg in japan, seems like they are just expensive for no reason, when they are touching the ghost price already
I think they are even more expensive in most S.E Asian countries and Australia, etc., due to taxes
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