Akio Toyoda making special announcement: confirmed to build ES350 in Kentucky, USA
10-11-14, 11:49 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, what is your current line of work? Should I avoid everything you're associated with for the fear that you may not have the same work ethic/dedication to quality? Do you go to work knowing you're not putting in 100% effort? Should your customers refuse your service because you're an American? If you're not an American, then I apologize for the assumption.
10-12-14, 07:33 AM
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Narrow-mindedness,? How about calling a Spade a Spade Like I have just done. Not everyone feels as you do. Let's cut throught the BS. The truth hurts. Like I said, I don't feel that most American workers have the same work ethic and dedication to quality, and I stand by that! You are not helping anyone by ignoring this. Not everyone will agree. The only way to make everyone happy is to build some in America and some in Japan.
My issue with American manufacturers is that they moved their manufacturing out of the US. Many Fords and Lincolns are built in Mexico. "Made in America" is not the same as "Made in the USA".
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10-12-14, 10:14 AM
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Lexus, at least make some of the cars in Kentucky and some of the cars in Japan, like you used to do with the Camry. That way everyone has a real choice. I would not buy a Lexus made in America, because I do not feel that most American workers have the same work ethics as Japanese workers as a result of seeing things at work here all of my life. At least give people a real choice between the two countries.
10-12-14, 11:48 AM
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10-12-14, 12:10 PM
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It makes no difference where a Toyota or a Lexus is built . If you follow the blue prints then there should be no difference.
And just so you know, I have had Lexus and Toyota products that were made in Japan, they did have some issues while my American Toyota products did not.
And just so you know, I have had Lexus and Toyota products that were made in Japan, they did have some issues while my American Toyota products did not.
10-12-14, 12:14 PM
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10-12-14, 12:23 PM
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It makes no difference where a Toyota or a Lexus is built . If you follow the blue prints then there should be no difference.
And just so you know, I have had Lexus and Toyota products that were made in Japan, they did have some issues while my American Toyota products did not.
And just so you know, I have had Lexus and Toyota products that were made in Japan, they did have some issues while my American Toyota products did not.
Vehicles made in different factories from parts made from different factories and even companies, can differ... Toyota has very good QA when it comes to this, and Lexus has even better.
But in general, yeah, they could be big differences.
10-12-14, 02:07 PM
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To many, it will matter whether the different in quality is there or not. I see many products (especially tools) that used to be made in the USA that are now made in China. Quality remained the same, but you get an uproar from the community to the point where they no longe spend money with the tool company.
A buddy of mine bought two Corollas (on the same day). One was made in Japan and the other in North America. The one from Japan had more issues so far, and it's the one that gets driven lightly with less mileage on the clock. When it comes down to it, many ES owners will not know which factory their cars came out of, nor will they care. They think Lexus so the assumption is that it came from Japan.
A buddy of mine bought two Corollas (on the same day). One was made in Japan and the other in North America. The one from Japan had more issues so far, and it's the one that gets driven lightly with less mileage on the clock. When it comes down to it, many ES owners will not know which factory their cars came out of, nor will they care. They think Lexus so the assumption is that it came from Japan.
10-12-14, 02:49 PM
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More often than not, its in the owner's head. I am one to "prefer" things built in other countries. Culture does have an effect on work ethic. It is no argument that Japanese and German culture emphasize on doing things methodically and correct the first time. Even if two vehicles built in different places can have no difference in perceived quality or reliability, I think it is still the buyer's right to prefer one over the other.
10-12-14, 05:05 PM
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Narrow-mindedness,? How about calling a Spade a Spade Like I have just done. Not everyone feels as you do. Let's cut throught the BS. The truth hurts. Like I said, I don't feel that most American workers have the same work ethic and dedication to quality, and I stand by that! You are not helping anyone by ignoring this. Not everyone will agree. The only way to make everyone happy is to build some in America and some in Japan.
besides parts and engineering, the process is key.
10-12-14, 05:05 PM
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Wow you really think so? I totally disagree. BTW you don't know what I know. I think that you have very little knowledge on the matter. I have been an auto fanatic for at least the last 20 years and have been with Toyota vehicles for at least 25 years. Like I said, I see what goes on here in the US every day. Bottom line, and it is just my opinion, the work ethic and outlook and culture, when it comes to this between the two countries is night and day. I grew up during the 1980s when "Made in Japan" or "Japan Incorporated" meant an obsession with quality and perfectionism, thus Lexus' motto for the "Relentless Persuit of Perfection". That is all I have to say!
10-12-14, 05:11 PM
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Look at what I just said above!