Vladi

They said the same after first CTS, second CTS and now after ATS.

Good for US sales but are there any Caddy dealers left in Europe?

T0ked

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Well, the new CTS is a bit narrower which is a nod to the narrower streets in Europe. I think it will sell better than previous models.

As for the Ciel... just build the damn thing. That would be a proper flagship.

Tantrix

have u seen the latest redesign?

caddyowner

... and the international sized Seville in 1975 (a success)
... and the Cimarron, by Cadillac, in 1981 (not a success)
... and the Allante in 1987 (GM supposedly lost money on every one sold)
... and the Catera, the Caddy that Zigs, in 1997 (better than the Cimarron, I suppose).

KevinGS

Caddies have come a longggg way with this new design language. I think the new CTS looks pretty damn good. Never liked the CTS coupe though (that rear-end left me cold).

ATS looks decent too.

But, having said all that, I still don't want one. I don't care how well they handle or how much HP they stuff under the hood. It still looks a little too "stately" and old-fogey-ish for me. I don't know what it is.

But maybe in 10 or 15 years, I'll be ready. Right now, I just think I'd look right piloting a new Caddy, even the CTS or ATS. I feel like I need to be about 55+. LOL

mmarshall

Well, each to his own (and I respect your opinion). But some auto-mag reviewers half that age (still in their 20s) are really digging the ATS.

KevinGS

Yeah, hec, I really dig the ATS. I even think it looks pretty good. But it still feels like an "older" person's car for some reason. Similar to Lincoln. They all look like they should have 55+ piloters.

It's probably just an old bias I can't shake, but the Caddy exterior still looks "mature" (old CTS-V sedan and wagon excluded).