Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

2015 Ford Mustang

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-04-13, 11:03 AM
  #136  
rdgdawg
Pole Position
 
rdgdawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Lake Country, WI
Posts: 2,794
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Very disappointed they didn't travel further down the Aston Martin they were teasing in 2011

So far, meh... now if the track times and HP numbers play out, could change my thoughts quickly...
rdgdawg is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 12:16 PM
  #137  
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
iTrader: (15)
 
tmf2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 21,942
Received 62 Likes on 60 Posts
Default

like mmarshall said better than expected... Glad they went away with the retro look..... i like it...
tmf2004 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 12:22 PM
  #138  
GiantsFan
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
GiantsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CA - Norcal
Posts: 7,550
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Not as revolutionary as I wanted but it ok.
+1 ... could have done much more.

But I guess they don't want to alienate the mustang fan base ...
GiantsFan is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 12:33 PM
  #139  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I was trying not to figure out what it resembled and someone posted Honda Accord Coupe on Facebook and it ruined it for me…..

Will wait to see in person but in initial pics looks much softer than previous versions. Time to look at the mustang forums...
 
Old 12-04-13, 01:38 PM
  #140  
Whitigir
Lexus Test Driver
 
Whitigir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Park a Taurus and the Mustang , and I cant tell which one belong to a Soccer mom, and which one belong to an Enthusiast.

That is the same meaning as...it look BAD.

I like the Side, the rear...but the Front ? Taurus....Taurus....Taurus.....



Whitigir is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 03:04 PM
  #141  
FrankReynoldsCPA
Lexus Test Driver
 
FrankReynoldsCPA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 6,455
Received 59 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

The front is closer to the Fusion than the Taurus IMO.

But if you can't tell, then you need to see your eye doctor

How many of those wanting them to ditch the retro look entirely would actually buy a Mustang either way?

For those of us who are loyal to the muscle cars of old, we understand that a Mustang should keep some resemblance to what made it famous. If you're going to redesign it into an entirely different looking vehicle, change the name of the vehicle too. Methinks there are just too many design snobs out there
FrankReynoldsCPA is online now  
Old 12-04-13, 04:47 PM
  #142  
ISFPOWER
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (20)
 
ISFPOWER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NORTH CAROLINA
Posts: 3,236
Received 144 Likes on 119 Posts
Default

that new body mustang will look so good modded, mark my words. almost every part of the exterior looks good. interior still looks cheap. but im sure its livable. good job Ford.
ISFPOWER is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 04:49 PM
  #143  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

This is seemingly a V6 or Turbo 4. I'm sure the V8 GT will be more aggressive. I want to see it in black
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 06:08 PM
  #144  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,057
Received 59 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Ford Mustang Preview | A Look at the 2015 Ford Mustang

RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 11:56 PM
  #145  
Fizzboy7
Lexus Test Driver
 
Fizzboy7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: California
Posts: 9,676
Received 156 Likes on 91 Posts
Default

Pretty nice overall. Very happy they moved away from retro and created something more modern with the exterior. It does resemble and Accord Coupe, the taillights are oddly shining up to space, and there is layer of cheap black plastic along the bottom sills. But overall it's pleasant and fresh.
The interior however is a total fail. It's flatout truckish and suffers the same blocky, Lego look the current model does. This will not age well at all and Ford will be picked on for the next seven years for not joining in on what most other car makers have done for decades. It's sad they could not have the foresight to step up the interior after five years of critique from the press.
Fizzboy7 is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 12:00 AM
  #146  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default Deep Drive: 2015 Ford Mustang

Deep Drive: 2015 Ford Mustang

"Everything We Know About Ford's Sixth-Generation Pony"


Gallery:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-...photo-1912482/

The 2015 Ford Mustang is assuredly the most anticipated new vehicle of the year. The redesigned Pony Car has been the subject of frantic gossiping and covert spy photos covering everything from the way it looks to the tech it will include, its performance, mechanicals and a bevy of other aspects of Ford's performance icon.

And now, we've had our first look at it. In a closed backgrounder at Ford's headquarters, we crawled over every inch of the new Mustang in an all-too-short look at the muscle car that will carry the company's performance flag through the rest of the decade. We've now witnessed what is arguably the most comprehensive refit of the Mustang in its 50-year history. We're still months away from our first drive, but after seeing it in the flesh and learning about its systems and mechanicals, it'd be unwise to bet against the sixth generation of this legendary nameplate.


You'll find a range of images of the new car up top, and while we'd encourage you to look at those, try to reserve judgment until you can see Mustang in the flesh. Pictures often strain to capture a vehicle perfectly, and these first images don't really do the details justice. Ford's designers told us their inspiration came from a number of areas (Steve McQueen, a panther and a fist breaking through glass, to name a few) but most significant by far was the first-generation car. That 1964.5 Mustang heritage may be faint, but can be sussed in elements of the profile's flow and in some of the detail work (more on that below).

The final design isn't far off from what we were expecting, but in person, it's easier to really grasp the 'Stang's new dimensions. The new car retains the current Mustang's 107.1-inch wheelbase, and despite actually looking longer than the 2014 model in person, it's one fifth of an inch shorter overall. The most dynamic change of dimension, though, is the width. The rear track has been stretched from 62.1 to 64.9 inches, and the car is 1.5 inches wider overall. Finally, it's 1.4 inches lower than the today's car. These might seem like incremental changes, but combined with the overall styling, the end result is a vehicle that looks noticeably more aggressive, athletic and planted.

The front end is highlighted by the Mustang's trapezoidal grille. We only saw a GT model at our event, and can report that the grille-mounted driving lamps have been abandoned in favor of more traditionally mounted fogs in the bottom of the front fascia. The hood features an assertive power dome and functional heat extractors, while the headlights on the GT feature three LED "gills" reminiscent of the slats near the headlight housing on the original Mustang. Evos Concept inspiration is obvious in the fascia, but trust us, this isn't anything close to a "Fusion coupe." In fact, the Mustang takes on a true fastback shape for 2015, with a profile set off by a pair of vertical lines in place of the normal "hockey stick" crease, a noticeable set of haunches and that raked roofline. We're curious to see how this new shape will transform to create the upcoming convertible model, too.




The back of the 2015 Mustang features a decklid that's been lowered 2.75 inches, contributing to the fastback shape and giving the rear end a more planted appearance, while also allowing a lower opening for the rearranged trunk (it now accommodates two sets of golf clubs without folding the rear seats). The triple LED taillights and blacked-out surround are a graceful evolution from the current styling, while the rear end is further set off on the GT model with a stand-alone "GT" badge rather than the circular placard of the 2014 car. A body-color diffuser and a set of twin tailpipes round out the changes to the 2015 Mustang's rump.

Even the Mustang's color palette has been tweaked with an eye towards showing off the new design. Gotta Have It Green is gone (your author shed a tear about this one), but it's been replaced with a pair of bright, vibrant colors – Competition Orange and Triple Yellow Tricoat – as well as a darker, grayish green called Guard. We only saw these colors on small models inside Ford's studio, so it's difficult to say how they'll look on a full-size car. The rest of the Mustang's color lineup is unchanged.

The new exterior is nothing compared to the interior, though. Like Chevy and the Corvette, Ford hasn't passed on the opportunity to completely redesign the Mustang's cabin, giving it the look of a truly modern product. The material quality is hugely better, and the overall layout is more stylish and easier to figure out. A long strip of metal spans the width of the dash, and it is without a doubt the best-feeling item in the new cabin. Other dash materials include leather, complete with contrast stitching, and soft-touch plastics. The discount plastics of the 2014 car aren't entirely gone, though, as there are still parts of the door panel and the transmission tunnel finished in the unpleasant stuff.


Ford's design team talked about drawing inspiration from aircraft cockpits, and we can certainly see what they mean in the Mustang's cabin. The shapes of controls on the center stack and the layout and style of the auxiliary gauges on the performance model, not to mention the instrument cluster, have a few aviation themes. Meanwhile, the text used has a certain military look to it, and the passenger side of the dash sports a Mustang plaque that wouldn't look out of place on a rough-and-tumble Jeep Wrangler (that's not a bad thing).

The center stack on the car we saw was fitted with the Blue Oval's optional MyFord Touch system, the infotainment technology's first appearance in a Mustang. Ford has wisely listened to the public and fitted the new model with a set of secondary analog controls for the HVAC and audio, suggesting customers will really only need to mess with the touchscreen for a few functions. Our subject was also fitted with the performance pack, and featured switches for the stability control settings, steering program and driving mode (think of a mix of the toggles on the Nissan GT-R and Mini Cooper). Also new is Intelligent Access with pushbutton start.

The steering wheel is slightly smaller in diameter overall, and features a wide assortment of buttons controlling everything from the audio system and Bluetooth to the TrackApps and instrument-cluster display. Proving that even the little things have received attention, the leather-wrapped wheel is now completely encased in dead cow, unlike the 2014 model, which saw strips of metal-effect plastic stemming from the wheel's spokes at the three, six and nine o'clock positions.

The new cabin is also larger than the interior it replaces. Passenger volume is up from 81 cubic feet to 84.5, with more leg, shoulder and hip room in front, and more space across the board for backseat passengers.


The big news for 2015, though, is the Mustang's three-engine lineup. That's right, joining the range for the first time will be a 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. The 3.7-liter V6 will remain as the base engine, while the GT will feature the beloved 5.0-liter Coyote V8. Ford has yet to release performance data (including final power numbers, 0-60 times, or fuel economy estimates) – don't expect any of that to be announced until sometime next year.

Ford assures us that both the V6 and V8 engines will be more powerful than their counterparts in the 2014 model. But the automaker also provided projections for each, showing figures identical to the current outputs, so it's a fair guess that horsepower and torque figures for the six and eight won't jump by much. The 2.3, meanwhile, is estimated to put out 305 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 300 pound-feet of torque between 2,500 and 4,500 rpm (Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T owners, take note). We'd take these numbers with a suitably large grain of salt, as they are subject to change as certification carries on. What we do know for sure is that the EcoBoost Mustang will slot above the V6 model, just like the EcoBoost engine on the Ford F-150.

As for transmissions, Ford has resisted the urge to fit some exotic seven-speed manual or an eight-speed automatic or even a dual-clutch transmission to the sixth-generation Mustang. Instead, the Getrag six-speed manual gearbox from the current car will be carried over, and it will be joined by a six-speed automatic, which for the first time will feature genuine paddle shifters.




The Mustang's new interior isn't the only thing joining the 21st century – the suspension has been heavily revised. Out back, it's all independent. Finally. Ford didn't stop there, although it originally intended to. According to engineers, the original plan was to add the IRS while carrying over the current Mustang's front suspension, but track testing revealed that the addition of an independent rear to the old front suspension didn't create the sort of handling the team wanted. So Ford tweaked and tweaked, and the result is an all-new setup for the Mustang's front end – a double-ball-joint independent setup with MacPherson struts in place of the reverse-L setup of the current car.

Ford has put quite a bit of work into the Mustang's brakes, with the base car getting 12.6-inch front and rear rotors, with two-pistons calipers in front and single-piston units on the back. EcoBoost models will get the same setup if they aren't fitted with the optional Performance Pack, which uses 13.9-inch front rotors and 13-inch rear rotors with four-piston front and single-piston rear calipers. V8 buyers will get the EcoBoost's Performance Pack brakes as standard, while the uprated brakes on the GT sport Brembo branding and replace the front brakes with whomping 15-inch rotors and six-piston calipers. The brakes will be hidden by the customer's choice of several wheel designs, ranging in size from 18 to 20 inches in diameter.

Ford is promising a range of new driving modes for the new Mustang, although representatives declined to go into specific details beyond confirming that there will be both snow/rain and performance modes which will tweak the throttle response, steering weight and stability control settings.


Unlike the current car, which hides its only driver-adjustable feature – steering effort – deep in a menu, the new Mustang's controls will be easily changeable on the fly, thanks to the center stack's toggle switches we mentioned above. The other big electronic performance feature will be launch control, which we understand to only be available on the V8 models. Other new safety-minded tech items include available adaptive cruise control and available Blind Spot Information System (BLIS) with cross-traffic alert.

Ford even revealed a bit of information about the new Mustang convertible. We can confirm that it will have a fabric top, and that it will be all electric. The team is also promising quicker and quieter operation than what we've seen on the current 'Stang.

While what we've learned about the new Mustang is quite comprehensive, there are still a number of important things we're still waiting to discover. These includes official power figures for all three of the car's engines, along with performance metrics, official weights (rumors have pegged the new Mustang as slashing some 200 pounds of body fat) and fuel economy figures. Official pricing is high on the list of must-knows, too, but we're likely months away from that information as the car isn't expected in dealers until late 2014.



Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 12:03 AM
  #147  
Hoovey689
Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

I just may like this after all. Lemme see a GT in black please!!
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 12:49 AM
  #148  
GiantsFan
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
GiantsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CA - Norcal
Posts: 7,550
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Not gonna lie ... those real life pics look pretty good!!

I still think they could have done more with the front though. I was hoping for this:



GiantsFan is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 02:08 AM
  #149  
Vladi
Pole Position
 
Vladi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Modern Mustang? Where and to whom?

To designers of previous Mustang probably.

This is still targeted toward muscle car lovers of the 60s and 70s. Everything tracks back to older designs including the most important one - profile. Even in video they admit little details were inspired by their heritage also. Well they just forgot that if you cater to old heritage design wise you are missing on opportunity to create new heritage for upcoming generations. I do not understand that philosophy and that includes Porsche that has proven again and again they cannot design nothing contemporary good looking so they are going the safe road.
Vladi is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 04:50 AM
  #150  
yowps3
Lexus Test Driver
 
yowps3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I don't know why, but the side profile and the entire door panel reminds me of the RC!
yowps3 is offline  


Quick Reply: 2015 Ford Mustang



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:17 PM.