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OMG that car looks incredible. Unbelievable.

ydooby

I'm absolutely blown away by its lightness. It's got a huge 6.3L V12, a sophisticated 7-speed DSG, 19/20" wheels, 2 electric motors and a heavy battery pack, and yet it's as light as a Toyota 86 6MT in base trim!!! Mind-boggling stuff.

TF109B

You sure about that? Ferrari hasn't stated a weight. So don't know where anyone is getting 27xxlbs. from.

4TehNguyen

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The official video I posted mentions the 20% lighter figure. Actually the Enzo weighs 3000 lbs the LaFerrari weighs 2800 lbs, so 2500 lbs minus the KERS. So it is 20% lighter without the KERS when you do a direct comparison with the Enzo. With the KERS its less than 10% lighter

ydooby

I got the 2,766lbs/1,255kg figure here, whose source is "Ferrari", although admittedly I did not find Ferrari's own PR myself.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11303055...ially-revealed

ydooby

Please try not to use the term KERS in place of HY-KERS. KERS refers to the flywheel-based technology used in F1, while HY-KERS is Ferrari's marketing attempt to fool people into thinking it is a F1-derived technology when in fact it is a proper full hybrid system intended for road cars. HY-KERS is designed to allow for pure EV mode even though the function is not made available on the F70 due to the car's mission (says Ferrari).

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spwolf

what C&D and I meant wast that they dont use electric motors to brake the car, unlike in Prius, where electric motors are used when you step on the brake, unless you stepped on it fully or are going low speed, so 90% of the situations, or more, you are braking with electric motor in Prius when you step on brakes.

Here, it uses brakes 100% of the time, right? And Electric motor seems to be used only as large alternator, not for brake replacement.

Prius HSD has several modes of operations, one of which could be described as charge mode where engine charges the battery pack. This is certainly done by PSD, when electronics find necessary to top up the battery.

Why are you so argumentative?

TF109B

20% lighter than the Enzo is not 2800lbs. Maybe that would be close if it were the dry weight. The Enzo was at least 3200lbs. curb weight. And that would put this La ferrari closer to 2900lbs.-3000lbs. Not 2700.

Ferrari only said there was a weight savings from the Enzo. On top of it the quoted weight for the Enzo is wrong. Head over to Ferrarichat.com and you'll get owners of the car saying the same thing. The LaFerrari will be lucky to dip into the 2900lbs curb weight territory. It'll still be light, but not race car light.

4TehNguyen

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it is 20% when you remove the KERS (like i had said in my post) in order to have a fair comparison with the Enzo which obviously doesnt have it.

F1 teams are not using flywheel KERS anymore, they are all electric. KERS is a general term for the technology it doesnt mean it has to be flywheel. There is flywheel, electrical, and hydraulic KERS

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/un...port/8763.html

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

The 20% less claim is mainly on the carbon fiber monocoque, but what you said pretty much apply, since the KERS is really the only addition compare to the Enzo. Everything else is pretty much the same, same size, engine.........etc. Only other thing is the 7-Speeds dual clutch would be heavier then the Enzo's 6-Speeds single clutch.

Words on the street is the curb weight of the LaFerrari is 3000~3300 lbs. I take that as 3150 lbs. Which is still awesome for all that hardwares.

mordecai

This is the hottest car in the history of the universe. The tech, engineering, and design they've put into this is mind-blowing. How long have they been developing this car? It seems like it came out of nowhere! (I know, I know we saw the F70 mules and camo for about a year now). And they've successfully put it into a car that is VERY Ferrari traditionale, superbly modern and futuristic, and yet completely SEXY.

(Where the hell is the LFA successor? )

I8ABMR

Jeez ...At that weight its like a 963 HP Honda S2000 in terms of power to weight. Compare that to the almost two ton Aventador . Thats quite a technical feat to get all that power and performance and still wrap it into a light weigh package , all while maintaining safety and road car design and crash standards

LexFather

Ferrari's business is supercars, Lexus is not.

All these new super cars have been great

mordecai

I was hoping Lexus would enter the fray with their own hypercar.