Mr. Burns

Yes the shocking truth does tend to be met with denial

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

IS350, 335i, MKZ (I'm prolly the only one ), and A4.

I would knock off the A4 in favor of the S60, but OP says S80. I don't like the S80 which is a large sedan..

Sens4Miles

Right, it makes nooo sense at all. These cars are never compared against each other, right? These cars are not even close to being in the same class, right?


Really? I had no idea


Please explain the "tons of engines" that are offered on the A4
I didn't make "3 series" a choice on this poll. I said "335i" - a very specific model for a very specific selection of cars.
And yes, I know the G37 is a single engine offering, not quite sure what your point is?

xsh0tya

+1

LexFather

Again, I come here for some good laughs.

Enjoy the poll

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Then you can't say A4. You have to say S4...

For that matter, no ATS? CTS is no longer entry. Lacrosse?? Verano... Regal both before the Lacrosse. IS250?? Can't say 350 if you want A4 once again. MBZ C350?? No has to be the C250 or just say C-Class. S80?? No S60

Your topic is "Luxury". A Maxima, Avalon, and for that matter, Taurus, Genesis, Azera, 300 are all nicely appointed but far from "Luxury". Tier 1 brands like BMW, Audi, Lexus and MBZ, as well as Upscale brands like Lincoln, Caddy, Acura, Infiniti and Volvo are fine for this poll.

I'm sorry but this entire poll/thread is just a mess and all over the place. I suggest Mods close and reopen when there aren't as many conflict-ions.

Point being, either make it generic ie C-Class, 3-Series, IS or make it specific too ENTRY ie C250, 328i, IS250 etc..

SaintNexus

335i, ES, IS, Avalon.

Sens4Miles

First of all, this is my poll so I can put whatever selections I want on it. If you don't like them, then you can go right ahead and post your own poll for people to vote on

Secondly, the S4 is not anywhere in the same class as any other car on this poll and that is obvious. Should I also make the LFA an option?

Third, I based these selections on starting MSRP/class/size/various other factors. I didn't want a poll with 50 options, so I decided on these 13 (which is still, umm quite alot)

I don't even know what this paragraph means...

No, pay attention.. the topic is Entry Level Luxury. It's a broad term and many would consider a 2013 Avalon on the same level as the ES350/300H (there is a thread on here that compares the two as pretty evenly matched). Besides as I stated in my first post I added it for "fun". However, it seems several people have already voted for it, so I guess I wasn't too far off with that option, eh?

I know what the luxury brands are, thanks for the tip, but I already clearly stated in my first post that I added the Avalon and Maxima for fun. I thought about adding the Azera, but I didn't feel like it.

um it's a poll, it's not that serious.


No, it's my poll and I didn't want it to be generic. I wanted it to be specific to these models. Again, feel free to start your own poll with your own options.

lex-phil

uh. No. S4 directly competes with the 335i and C350, both of which are in your poll. The A4 on the other hand, competes with the 320i/328i and C250/C300, which are not in the poll.

Sens4Miles

Uh, no. Th S4 starts at $47.6k, while the 335i starts at $42.8k and the C350 starts at $41.4 k. Different class of car as far as this poll is concerned. I deliberately kept the starting price range roughly between $32k & $42k.

Starting prices for the vehicles on this poll:

Audi A4 - $32.5k
Acura TL - $35.9k
BMW 335i - $42.8k
Buick Lacrosse - $31.6
Cadillac CTS - $39k
Infiniti G37 - $36.9k
Lexus ES350 - $36.1k
Lexus IS350 - $40.3k
Lincoln MKZ - $35.9
Mercedes C350 - $41.4k
Nissan Maxima - $33.2k
Toyota Avalon - $31k
Volvo S80 - $39.1k

The 335i & C350 compete directly with the IS350, G37, Acura TL, etc. They do not compete directly with the S4 (although perhaps close in specs/performance). You know that and I know that. Furthermore, there has to be a limit to this poll, no? Should I include every car between $25k and $50k next time? or is it the term "entry level" that is causing you and others to be so upset? lol

rkyat

so yeah.... back to the poll. I'm actually looking back at 4drs for the next car, g37 and 335 are on the list cause..... Yep u guessed it, it comes with an mt option

dc893

i voted for the z also.


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mmarshall

I'd vote for these four entry-level luxury sedans:

Buick Verano (it is library-quiet and better, IMO, than its larger sister Buick LaCrosse in several areas).

BMW 335i (especially the xi AWD version). It sets a standard of superb chassis engineering as a Drivers' Car.

Lexus ES350 (despite the loss of some sound insulation and refinement on the new 2013 model). Hard to beat it for time-proven reliability in this class as an everyday driver.

Cadillac CTS AWD (though I'm going to cheat a little on this one and put down the sharp-looking CTS SportWagon, not the actual sedan).


(if I could pick a fifth one, I'd also choose the Audi A4...with the Quattro AWD. Audi fit/finish and interiors are some of the best in the buisness)