Acura NSX News
#1171
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
thanks for taking the time to provide initial impressions!
do you have any sense of engine/turbos/motors and which is doing what?
about the sound, i believe there's controls for that from mild to loud?
now can you have someone else do a video outside and inside while you're driving?
do you have any sense of engine/turbos/motors and which is doing what?
about the sound, i believe there's controls for that from mild to loud?
now can you have someone else do a video outside and inside while you're driving?
#1172
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
fun video. at 7:20 you can see a white nsx smoke a ferrari
#1174
Lexus Fanatic
fun video. at 7:20 you can see a white nsx smoke a ferrari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOqucQsxkSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOqucQsxkSo
#1175
Thanks
When the car is in EV mode, I believe the twin motor unit up front is moving the car.
When the twin turbo Honda V6 (hard to believe we can finally say this) is going, the system is extremely smooth and I have not been able to get a sense by sound when the thing motor unit is working. I have to believe when I punch the gas from the stop the rear electric motor is doing it's thing too.
I believe the sound point you made relates to the drive modes, quiet (limits engine RPM to 4K), sport (I have been almost totally in this so far), sport + (it is louder) and track (saving that till I have some more seat time and an open road).
The Stradman videos have been very positive. He is one of my favorite of the current crop of bloggers. The win has an asterics as the race was at 4500 ft elevation. But these are the kind of things that drive urban legends.
Maybe one of my sons can do a bit of video some time soon.
Chicago marathon in my neighborhood tomorrow so the car might not get out on Sunday.
When the car is in EV mode, I believe the twin motor unit up front is moving the car.
When the twin turbo Honda V6 (hard to believe we can finally say this) is going, the system is extremely smooth and I have not been able to get a sense by sound when the thing motor unit is working. I have to believe when I punch the gas from the stop the rear electric motor is doing it's thing too.
I believe the sound point you made relates to the drive modes, quiet (limits engine RPM to 4K), sport (I have been almost totally in this so far), sport + (it is louder) and track (saving that till I have some more seat time and an open road).
The Stradman videos have been very positive. He is one of my favorite of the current crop of bloggers. The win has an asterics as the race was at 4500 ft elevation. But these are the kind of things that drive urban legends.
Maybe one of my sons can do a bit of video some time soon.
Chicago marathon in my neighborhood tomorrow so the car might not get out on Sunday.
#1176
GSteg, the NSX program is filled with weird trivia. Acura says that because of their new paint process, the paint needs to cure (degas) for 60 days after delivery prior to waxing or putting on stuff like clear bras. They are so confused at the factory that that can't even tell you the day the panels finished painting so they are defaulting to your delivery day to start the 60 day clock.
#1177
Acura NSX Demolishes Lamborghini Aventador In Drag Race
Judging by its spec sheet, the all-new NSX should compete against the McLaren 570S, Porsche 911, Nissan GT-R, Mercedes-AMG GT and Audi R8.
However, its electric powertrain, composed of a 3.5-litre V6 and three electric motors, enables it to punch well above its weight.
Developing 537 hp and 686 Nm (506 lb-ft) of torque, the NSX offers a recipe similar to the one used by the high-end, high-performance hybrid hypercars for less than a fifth of the price. In fact, it’s the only automobile in its price range that uses electric motors in order to boost its performance. The BMW i8 also does it, but it puts emphasis on fuel efficiency and its output is far inferior.
Now, the new NSX has the right ingredients and a hefty amount of power, but just how fast is it? Well, Exotic Revolution decided to pit it against a 691 hp Lamborghini Aventador and it came out trumps.
Now, there are lots of unknown variables in the test, including driver skill, distance traveled, etc. That, and the fact the Aventador didn’t use launch control or full throttle for that matter. Even so, the Italian bull should have the Japanese challenger licked instead of having its own butt kicked. Perhaps the mighty V12 just couldn't match the instantly available torque of those electric motors after all.
However, its electric powertrain, composed of a 3.5-litre V6 and three electric motors, enables it to punch well above its weight.
Developing 537 hp and 686 Nm (506 lb-ft) of torque, the NSX offers a recipe similar to the one used by the high-end, high-performance hybrid hypercars for less than a fifth of the price. In fact, it’s the only automobile in its price range that uses electric motors in order to boost its performance. The BMW i8 also does it, but it puts emphasis on fuel efficiency and its output is far inferior.
Now, the new NSX has the right ingredients and a hefty amount of power, but just how fast is it? Well, Exotic Revolution decided to pit it against a 691 hp Lamborghini Aventador and it came out trumps.
Now, there are lots of unknown variables in the test, including driver skill, distance traveled, etc. That, and the fact the Aventador didn’t use launch control or full throttle for that matter. Even so, the Italian bull should have the Japanese challenger licked instead of having its own butt kicked. Perhaps the mighty V12 just couldn't match the instantly available torque of those electric motors after all.
#1178
gymratter, the owner (in Utah) has been creating a fabulous urban legend for the NSX.
I believe the runs were done at 4500 ft elevation so there are a bunch of factors involved.
I believe the runs were done at 4500 ft elevation so there are a bunch of factors involved.
#1180
Maxim
The 2017 NSX Isn't Just the Fastest Acura Ever, It Might Be the Most Fun
An iffier electronic feature of the NSX is electric servo-operated brakes that disconnect the brake pedal from the actual brakes. In earlier, failed attempts to introduce this technology, other automakers have tolerated an utter absence of brake feel needed to communicate whether the car is responding as expected.
The NSX's electric brakes are better than that. Indeed, at high speeds they provide a feeling of imperturbable confidence, which may or may not be warranted. Even at trickier lower speeds, when the car has less inertia and is more vulnerable to misapplications of brake pressure, the system still holds up well compared to conventional brakes. But at very low parking speeds, stopping the car can still be abrupt. The feeling is similar to that provided by some carbon ceramic brakes, which can be difficult to modulate at walking speeds.
And the test NSX was fact equipped with such brakes. But with their electronic operation, there was no possibility of feeling what the carbon brakes were doing, so any misunderstandings were an artifact of the electronics and not the ceramic brake rotors' characteristics.
Our test car featured the optional $6,000 Valencia Red Pearl paint that could be considered mandatory because of its incredible appearance. The hue gives the NSX a sophistication that a mid-engined supercar could lack if improperly executed.
Photo: Dan Carney
Similarly, the NSX's exuberant lines attracted compliments everywhere the car went, typically followed by the exclamation, "That's an Acura?!" Yes indeed it is.
It was reassuring to hear Acura's big bet garnering such favorable comments, because after seeing the car only in the unreal world of the auto show circuit where the NSX competes for notice with Ford's astounding new GT and various garishly finished Italian, German and English supercars, the NSX's ability to stand up for itself was uncertain.
The adjustable suspension provides a surprisingly cushy ride and even the racing-style seats are acceptably comfy for highway cruising. Legroom for occupants' door-side legs is always in short supply in mid-engined sports cars, but the NSX does a good enough job in this respect to prevent leg cramps on long drives.
The other thing that will prevent leg cramps is the frequent opportunity to get out and walk around while the NSX is refueling. The car's EPA numbers are unremarkable, at 20 mpg city and 22 mpg highway. But the raison d'etre of the hybrid system is to boost efficiency, and the NSX falls well short on the highway of cars like the Corvette, which gets 29 mpg on the highway.
Further, in 150 miles of test driving, which included a few laps around a racetrack, but which was mostly highway driving to and from that track, the NSX returned 14.75 mpg, putting it in company with the V10 Dodge Viper. At that rate, strolls around the gas pumps will keep NSX occupants' legs stretched.
Acura's goal for the NSX is to cultivate a more prestigious image for the brand that has too often relied on selling dressed-up Hondas, and the car achieves its technical objectives. With a $209,500 as-tested price, the cost alone will push Acura into unprecedented demographics.
A true conversion of the Acura brand into an authentic prestige brand would be a personality transplant on par with Pixar's conversion of Woody from unsympathetically jealous to affable Tom Hanks good guy.
Photo: Dan Carney
When the Pixar Animation family classic Toy Story was in development, then-owner Steve Jobs halted the production, ordering a rewrite to make the Woody character more likable. Such a dramatic change, so late in a film's production usually bodes ill for the final result, but it turned out to be just what Woody and Buzz needed to become new fixtures in the American childscape.Photo: Acura
Similarly, only about 2 years ago, Acura concluded that its NSX design was unacceptably compromised and ordered a major revision. As with Toy Story, this change further delayed a project that was already behind schedule.Photo: Acura
It is too soon to know whether the 2017 Acura NSX will ever establish a reputation as sterling as that of Toy Story, but we do know that the decision to change the orientation of the engine in the chassis has produced exactly the sort of track-worthy machine buyers in this category demand. For starters, it's the fastest Acura ever with a 191 MPH top speed, and can scorch from 0-60 in just 3 seconds flat. Photo: Dan Carney
The car's significantly racy design change was to turn the engine 90 degrees so that it is placed in alignment with the car's spine (like a race car) rather than sideways between the rear wheels (as with most street cars these days). Photo: Acura
This pushed those rear wheels a few inches further rearward and shifted the NSX's weight balance slightly forward, producing exactly the race-worthy handling expected from such a car. The original 1991-2005 NSX employed a transverse engine layout successfully, but with 290 horsepower, it had far less power to put to the ground and did so at lower speeds.Photo: Dan Carney
The 2017 NSX's 3.5-liter V6 is twin-turbocharged, which pumps it up to 500 horsepower, and gets a 119-horsepower assist from a trio of electric motors. 1 electric motor is bolted to the gas engine and helps drive the rear wheels, and the other 2 are at the front of the car, providing power to the front wheels.Photo: Acura
Total system power is 573 peak horsepower, because, as with the romantic capacities of men and women, the gas engine and the electric motors hit their peaks at different times.Photo: Acura
The engine peaks out through the window in the rear cover, revealing Y-shaped intake plumbing that lacks some fiber optic lighting to resemble a time-traveling flux capacitor. Its attached electric motor starts the gas engine none of the uncouth whining of a conventional starter, but rather with a "Vrroom!" that creates the impression that the engine had been running all along and just decided to speak up.Photo: Dan Carney
The car has 4 operating modes; "quiet," "sport," "sport+" and "track." Each of these tweaks the electronic adjustments of the magnetically variable shock absorbers, the 9-speed automatic transmission, the electric power steering, the all-wheel-drive system, the electronic stability control system and active muffler bypass valves.Photo: Acura
An unprecedented range of adjustability in each of these areas permits the NSX to have the most dramatic personality changes since Brad and Janet met Dr. Frank-N-Furter. In Quiet mode, the NSX is as buttoned up as the young couple was upon arrival to the doctor's mansion, and in Race mode, the NSX goes for full-on debauchery.Photo: Dan Carney
For younger drivers seeking a primer on the meaning of the term "understeer," (which is when the front wheels are turned toward a curve but they slide so the car continues straight), the NSX is wonderfully instructive. The car begins in Quiet mode with abundant, safe understeer, which keeps the car from spinning around, and then lessens the understeer progressively in each mode up through "Track," where the NSX is largely neutral.Photo: Dan Carney
The car's exhaust volume also ratchets upward through the settings, and the great thing is that the driver can decide when to engage in which. So unlike too many of its competitors which force the driver to look like a preening rooster on trips to Walgreens, the NSX can creep surreptitiously out of the neighborhood in the wee hours, but still announce its presence with suitable authority at the track.Photo: Acura
It would be nice to be able to employ track mode without disabling the stability control system, for some noisy fun that preserves the car's electronic safety net.An iffier electronic feature of the NSX is electric servo-operated brakes that disconnect the brake pedal from the actual brakes. In earlier, failed attempts to introduce this technology, other automakers have tolerated an utter absence of brake feel needed to communicate whether the car is responding as expected.
The NSX's electric brakes are better than that. Indeed, at high speeds they provide a feeling of imperturbable confidence, which may or may not be warranted. Even at trickier lower speeds, when the car has less inertia and is more vulnerable to misapplications of brake pressure, the system still holds up well compared to conventional brakes. But at very low parking speeds, stopping the car can still be abrupt. The feeling is similar to that provided by some carbon ceramic brakes, which can be difficult to modulate at walking speeds.
And the test NSX was fact equipped with such brakes. But with their electronic operation, there was no possibility of feeling what the carbon brakes were doing, so any misunderstandings were an artifact of the electronics and not the ceramic brake rotors' characteristics.
Our test car featured the optional $6,000 Valencia Red Pearl paint that could be considered mandatory because of its incredible appearance. The hue gives the NSX a sophistication that a mid-engined supercar could lack if improperly executed.
Photo: Dan Carney
Similarly, the NSX's exuberant lines attracted compliments everywhere the car went, typically followed by the exclamation, "That's an Acura?!" Yes indeed it is.
It was reassuring to hear Acura's big bet garnering such favorable comments, because after seeing the car only in the unreal world of the auto show circuit where the NSX competes for notice with Ford's astounding new GT and various garishly finished Italian, German and English supercars, the NSX's ability to stand up for itself was uncertain.
The adjustable suspension provides a surprisingly cushy ride and even the racing-style seats are acceptably comfy for highway cruising. Legroom for occupants' door-side legs is always in short supply in mid-engined sports cars, but the NSX does a good enough job in this respect to prevent leg cramps on long drives.
The other thing that will prevent leg cramps is the frequent opportunity to get out and walk around while the NSX is refueling. The car's EPA numbers are unremarkable, at 20 mpg city and 22 mpg highway. But the raison d'etre of the hybrid system is to boost efficiency, and the NSX falls well short on the highway of cars like the Corvette, which gets 29 mpg on the highway.
Further, in 150 miles of test driving, which included a few laps around a racetrack, but which was mostly highway driving to and from that track, the NSX returned 14.75 mpg, putting it in company with the V10 Dodge Viper. At that rate, strolls around the gas pumps will keep NSX occupants' legs stretched.
Acura's goal for the NSX is to cultivate a more prestigious image for the brand that has too often relied on selling dressed-up Hondas, and the car achieves its technical objectives. With a $209,500 as-tested price, the cost alone will push Acura into unprecedented demographics.
A true conversion of the Acura brand into an authentic prestige brand would be a personality transplant on par with Pixar's conversion of Woody from unsympathetically jealous to affable Tom Hanks good guy.
#1181
I can tell you it is fun
i had it out this morning for my commute and had multiple chances to do some passing and lane changes on the highway using sport plus and it just pulls like mad and moves side to side with ease
i am not sure what was up with their test car regarding the brakes. The car is super easy to use in crappy Chicago traffic
i had it out this morning for my commute and had multiple chances to do some passing and lane changes on the highway using sport plus and it just pulls like mad and moves side to side with ease
i am not sure what was up with their test car regarding the brakes. The car is super easy to use in crappy Chicago traffic
#1182
Lexus Test Driver
This video was highly controversial as Aventador typically runs 10.6@134 mph. The trap speed was 11 mph higher on the best runs. However, the video poster clarified, it was shot at 5000 feet above sea level where naturally aspirated engines have a huge disadvantage.
Last edited by 05RollaXRS; 10-19-16 at 11:29 AM.
#1183
Honda did the right thing and revived the NSX in the form of a hybrid AWD mid-engined
Honda did the right thing and revived the NSX in the form of a hybrid AWD mid-engined supercar with no less than three electric motors but is this enough to challenge established supercar players like McLaren?
On paper there’s no denying that the new Honda NSX has all it takes to impress, packing 573hp combined from all of its power sources, a nine-speed dual-clutch automatic and real torque vectoring.
The McLaren 570S on the other hand has already proven that nothing on it feels ‘entry-level’, with the company showcasing their ability to engineer one more hugely exciting supercar, this time though for a price than can finally be described as sensible.
And don’t let McLaren’s description of the 570S as a sportscar fool you; this is a proper supercar, complete with a carbon tub and these gorgeous butterfly doors. Can the Honda NSX’s advanced powertrain tech give it the edge though? Autocar is comparing the two supercars in their latest video, linked below.
On paper there’s no denying that the new Honda NSX has all it takes to impress, packing 573hp combined from all of its power sources, a nine-speed dual-clutch automatic and real torque vectoring.
The McLaren 570S on the other hand has already proven that nothing on it feels ‘entry-level’, with the company showcasing their ability to engineer one more hugely exciting supercar, this time though for a price than can finally be described as sensible.
And don’t let McLaren’s description of the 570S as a sportscar fool you; this is a proper supercar, complete with a carbon tub and these gorgeous butterfly doors. Can the Honda NSX’s advanced powertrain tech give it the edge though? Autocar is comparing the two supercars in their latest video, linked below.
#1184
Alexander Rossi Drives & Shares Thoughts On 2017 Acura NSX
It seems that not even a 707 HP Charger Hellcat can sway Indy 500 winner and F1 reserve driver Alex Rossi from taking the Acura NSX for a spin.
When you've raced everything from Formula BMW to GP2, GP3, Formula Renault, Le Mans, Formula One and most recently IndyCar, it seems that overall power output isn't necessarily what strikes you as being interesting.
Rossi, with the assistance of Motor Trend's Carlos Lago, took a cruise in the all-new NSX and gave his thoughts on multiple issues such as Honda power units, the state of the supercar and even hamburgers.
Oh, and if you're wondering what a successful 25-year old race car driver uses as his daily driver, in Rossi's case, surprisingly, it's a Honda Pilot, which he actually finds to be a very cool car.
It was also surprising to find out that he doesn't actually own a sports car/supercar that he could take to the track - though if he would buy one at one point, it seems that it would definitely be a McLaren P1 (although he admits to not having driven the 918 or the LaFerrari).
Unfortunately for us, he doesn't really get the chance to put the NSX through its pacesand only drives it through traffic at speeds that look pretty much legal. Still, he does manage to say quite a few interesting things about it.
When you've raced everything from Formula BMW to GP2, GP3, Formula Renault, Le Mans, Formula One and most recently IndyCar, it seems that overall power output isn't necessarily what strikes you as being interesting.
Rossi, with the assistance of Motor Trend's Carlos Lago, took a cruise in the all-new NSX and gave his thoughts on multiple issues such as Honda power units, the state of the supercar and even hamburgers.
Oh, and if you're wondering what a successful 25-year old race car driver uses as his daily driver, in Rossi's case, surprisingly, it's a Honda Pilot, which he actually finds to be a very cool car.
It was also surprising to find out that he doesn't actually own a sports car/supercar that he could take to the track - though if he would buy one at one point, it seems that it would definitely be a McLaren P1 (although he admits to not having driven the 918 or the LaFerrari).
Unfortunately for us, he doesn't really get the chance to put the NSX through its pacesand only drives it through traffic at speeds that look pretty much legal. Still, he does manage to say quite a few interesting things about it.
#1185
Performance Car of the Year
http://acuranews.com/acura-automobiles/releases/acura-nsx-named-road-track-2017-performance-car-of-the-year
Acura NSX Named Road & Track 2017 Performance Car of the Year
Oct 31, 2016 - TORRANCE, Calif.The Acura NSX has been named Road & Track's 2017 Performance Car of the Year, besting 8 of the world's finest sports cars by exhibiting a potent mix of performance, style and emotion.
The Acura NSX won this year's competition largely thanks to its unique driving experience. According to the feature in Road & Track, "For the first time in a hybrid automobile of any price or capability, technology has been placed firmly in the service of emotional involvement rather than in place of it." The magazine goes on to say, "Everything about the car—from the way in which the brake-by-wire pedal lengthens its travel when the brakes are hot to the manner in which the mid-mounted V-6 permits itself a bit of the ol' barbaric yawp when it's winding out in fourth gear—is intended to enhance the driver's involvement."
"Every aspect of the new NSX—acceleration, braking and cornering—is a precise, new experience," said Jon Ikeda, vice president and general manager of Acura. "Having the NSX recognized by Road & Track's esteemed group of evaluators is not only a great honor for the car, but a testament to the skill, determination and challenging spirit of our team—we are immensely proud."
Now in its 5th year, Road & Track's Performance Car of the Year award is chosen based on testing that takes place over the course of 4 days, two of which are dedicated to the back roads of Kentucky and Tennessee and 2 of which are spent on track at the National Corvette Museum Motorsports Park in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
To be considered for the competition, cars need to be brand new or significantly revised for 2016. During the 4-day testing process, the Road & Track editors and writers evaluate each car based on a combination of emotion, performance and value.
For the performance evaluation, editors take note of acceleration, braking, handling, shift points, sound level and weight, accounting for the weather conditions present during testing. They also evaluate the engine, transmission, drivetrain, steering, tires and brakes.
The 2017 NSX launched in the spring, challenging conventional supercar thinking with a 3-motor, 573 horsepower, twin-turbocharged Sport Hybrid Super Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) powertraini. Produced exclusively at the Performance Manufacturing Center in Marysville, Ohio, the Acura NSX is the only supercar manufactured in Americaii.
The 2017 Acura NSX that won the competition featured Valencia Red Pearl Exterior paint with Semi-Aniline Red Leather and Alcantara® Power Seats, the Carbon Fiber Exterior and Interior Sport Package, Premium Audio, Signature Y-Spoke Wheels, Carbon Fiber Roof and Rear Decklid Spoiler, Carbon-Ceramic Rotors with Black Brake Calipers, Pirelli Pzero Trofeo R 245/35ZR 19XL front tires and Pirelli Pzero Trofeo R 305/30ZR 20XL rear tires. The MSRP of the tested 2017 Acura NSX was $201,160. The 2017 Acura NSX starts at $156,000.
The Acura NSX competed against eight other cars: Audi R8 V10 Plus, BMW M4 GTS, Corvette Grand Sport, Jaguar F-Type SVR, Lotus Evora 400, Mercedes-AMG C63 S, Nissan GT-R NISMO and Porsche 911 Turbo S.
Full coverage of Road & Track's Performance Car of the Year can be found in the December/January issue, on newsstands November 15, and online at RoadandTrack.com.
The Acura NSX won this year's competition largely thanks to its unique driving experience. According to the feature in Road & Track, "For the first time in a hybrid automobile of any price or capability, technology has been placed firmly in the service of emotional involvement rather than in place of it." The magazine goes on to say, "Everything about the car—from the way in which the brake-by-wire pedal lengthens its travel when the brakes are hot to the manner in which the mid-mounted V-6 permits itself a bit of the ol' barbaric yawp when it's winding out in fourth gear—is intended to enhance the driver's involvement."
"Every aspect of the new NSX—acceleration, braking and cornering—is a precise, new experience," said Jon Ikeda, vice president and general manager of Acura. "Having the NSX recognized by Road & Track's esteemed group of evaluators is not only a great honor for the car, but a testament to the skill, determination and challenging spirit of our team—we are immensely proud."
Now in its 5th year, Road & Track's Performance Car of the Year award is chosen based on testing that takes place over the course of 4 days, two of which are dedicated to the back roads of Kentucky and Tennessee and 2 of which are spent on track at the National Corvette Museum Motorsports Park in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
To be considered for the competition, cars need to be brand new or significantly revised for 2016. During the 4-day testing process, the Road & Track editors and writers evaluate each car based on a combination of emotion, performance and value.
For the performance evaluation, editors take note of acceleration, braking, handling, shift points, sound level and weight, accounting for the weather conditions present during testing. They also evaluate the engine, transmission, drivetrain, steering, tires and brakes.
The 2017 NSX launched in the spring, challenging conventional supercar thinking with a 3-motor, 573 horsepower, twin-turbocharged Sport Hybrid Super Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) powertraini. Produced exclusively at the Performance Manufacturing Center in Marysville, Ohio, the Acura NSX is the only supercar manufactured in Americaii.
The 2017 Acura NSX that won the competition featured Valencia Red Pearl Exterior paint with Semi-Aniline Red Leather and Alcantara® Power Seats, the Carbon Fiber Exterior and Interior Sport Package, Premium Audio, Signature Y-Spoke Wheels, Carbon Fiber Roof and Rear Decklid Spoiler, Carbon-Ceramic Rotors with Black Brake Calipers, Pirelli Pzero Trofeo R 245/35ZR 19XL front tires and Pirelli Pzero Trofeo R 305/30ZR 20XL rear tires. The MSRP of the tested 2017 Acura NSX was $201,160. The 2017 Acura NSX starts at $156,000.
The Acura NSX competed against eight other cars: Audi R8 V10 Plus, BMW M4 GTS, Corvette Grand Sport, Jaguar F-Type SVR, Lotus Evora 400, Mercedes-AMG C63 S, Nissan GT-R NISMO and Porsche 911 Turbo S.
Full coverage of Road & Track's Performance Car of the Year can be found in the December/January issue, on newsstands November 15, and online at RoadandTrack.com.