Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Acura NSX News

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-08-15, 06:58 AM
  #931  
situman
Pole Position
 
situman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 3,408
Received 162 Likes on 112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
most ridiculous comment ever?

times change. it's not 1996.

the start of that video review has a lot of complaining but then he talks about 0 turbo lag, 0-60 in 3 seconds, and killer handling... so this is a VERY different (and infinitely more capable) nsx.

i thought the reviewer being in a wheelchair was in exceptionally poor taste.
Sure, technically it sounds awesome on paper...but where are the intangibles? The engine sounds like a hairdryer and unless you put it in Track mode, it drives like an Accord per the review. It's a real life video game that lacks emotional appeal. It just lacks soul and character honestly. Already bored of looking and watching it after that one video.
situman is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 07:27 AM
  #932  
s4play
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (2)
 
s4play's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: California
Posts: 2,394
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

As a guy who was anxiously waiting for the car and ready to buy one, I'm very disappointed in the car. We own the first gen and was excited to get a matching one in same color for the 2nd gen but after seeing this car multiple times and hearing it on the race track during NSXPO, it's just not that exciting. For anyone who is about to lay down this much cash, it had better be an exciting purchase!

I'll be passing on this car for now, maybe Acura will do better with the Type R version in the future but going to shop it's competitors (McLaren and F-cars for now). The new NSX's stiffest competition in my opinion is against the new McLaren 570s. After seeing the McLaren in person and sitting in it, I can tell you for roughly the same price range, $180-200k, the NSX stands no chance whatsoever sadly
s4play is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 09:07 AM
  #933  
gengar
Moderator: LFA, Clubhouse

 
gengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NV
Posts: 5,287
Received 43 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
most ridiculous comment ever?

times change. it's not 1996.
You call my comment ridiculous but then give the same bad argument that I was responding to. If times change and it's not 1996, then why call it the NSX? Why market it as the new NSX? It's the CR-Z vs CR-X all over again.


Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i thought the reviewer being in a wheelchair was in exceptionally poor taste.
Did you watch the video? It explains why he's using a wheelchair. I actually thought that part of the video was the most favorable to the NSX as it explains elegantly why Honda's torque vectoring is so good.


Originally Posted by s4play
The new NSX's stiffest competition in my opinion is against the new McLaren 570s.
The saddest part about it is that the 570S may actually be a more engaging drive, despite how much reviewers have panned that characteristic of the 570S.

Last edited by gengar; 12-08-15 at 09:10 AM.
gengar is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 10:10 AM
  #934  
Stroock639
Lead Lap
 
Stroock639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,828
Received 231 Likes on 175 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gengar
You call my comment ridiculous but then give the same bad argument that I was responding to. If times change and it's not 1996, then why call it the NSX? Why market it as the new NSX? It's the CR-Z vs CR-X all over again.
everyone's so concerned about numbers and lap times because they're such big marketing points that everyone's tending to build their cars this way. nobody seems to care about serviceability anymore either, cars used to be incredibly straightforward to work on, i can't even imagine trying to work on this new 'NSX'.

i agree that's it's important to push the technological envelope because that's what drives innovation, but surely a company as big as honda has the resources and people willing to also work on developing a driver-oriented enthusiasts car that is very light with a high revving N/A engine and a 6 speed manual. no electronic torque vectoring just a properly set up chassis and a mechanical LSD, and priced around the $75,000 range, not $150,000 or whatever it'll be. there really isn't something like that at the moment and i'm sure there will people happy that such a thing exists. even brand it as a honda, not an acura. the whiff of luxury associated with an acura badge is something some people might be happy to do without i feel. i would at least.
Stroock639 is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 11:24 AM
  #935  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 73,770
Received 2,127 Likes on 1,379 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gengar
You call my comment ridiculous but then give the same bad argument that I was responding to. If times change and it's not 1996, then why call it the NSX? Why market it as the new NSX? It's the CR-Z vs CR-X all over again.
i don't think it's a bad argument - why call it an nsx? why call an S-class and S-class when a new one has NO resemblance in any way to one from the 90's. times change.

Did you watch the video? It explains why he's using a wheelchair. I actually thought that part of the video was the most favorable to the NSX as it explains elegantly why Honda's torque vectoring is so good.
i did watch the video and again, i found the analogy to be in very poor taste. i have friends in wheel chairs.

Originally Posted by Stroock639
... surely a company as big as honda has the resources and people willing to also work on developing a driver-oriented enthusiasts car that is very light with a high revving N/A engine and a 6 speed manual.
that's called an mx-5 miata (or fr-s/brz). not the same kind of car.

no electronic torque vectoring just a properly set up chassis and a mechanical LSD, and priced around the $75,000 range, not $150,000 or whatever it'll be. there really isn't something like that at the moment and i'm sure there will people happy that such a thing exists.
sure there is, it's called a boxster or caymen.
bitkahuna is online now  
Old 12-08-15, 11:41 AM
  #936  
Jason2801
Driver School Candidate
 
Jason2801's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Fl
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stroock639
everyone's so concerned about numbers and lap times because they're such big marketing points that everyone's tending to build their cars this way. nobody seems to care about serviceability anymore either, cars used to be incredibly straightforward to work on, i can't even imagine trying to work on this new 'NSX'.

i agree that's it's important to push the technological envelope because that's what drives innovation, but surely a company as big as honda has the resources and people willing to also work on developing a driver-oriented enthusiasts car that is very light with a high revving N/A engine and a 6 speed manual. no electronic torque vectoring just a properly set up chassis and a mechanical LSD, and priced around the $75,000 range, not $150,000 or whatever it'll be. there really isn't something like that at the moment and i'm sure there will people happy that such a thing exists. even brand it as a honda, not an acura. the whiff of luxury associated with an acura badge is something some people might be happy to do without i feel. i would at least.
This

Just watched the review. It seems Honda tried a little to hard and lost some focus on what the original NSX brought to the table. Maybe a new name plate would have suited this car better and the review wouldn't have been as critical. Maybe trying so hard to make it a super car while at the same time making it a daily driver required sacrificing too much of what would make the car feel enjoyable for what it is suppose to be. Then again, this is only 1 of many reviews to come. Still open minded about it but not as excited about the car as I was before watching this.

If Toyota is coming out with the next Supra (successor), I hope they pay attention and really determine whether the car deserves the Supra badge or if it's better off with a new name.
Jason2801 is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 11:44 AM
  #937  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Danm that car looks hot in that blue color....schwing!!!!!!


Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i did watch the video and again, i found the analogy to be in very poor taste. i have friends in wheel chairs.
yep, no reason to use the wheelchair for the analogy...
bagwell is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 11:51 AM
  #938  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

check this video....no moron talking over it..... just all NSX beauty.....

bagwell is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 12:21 PM
  #939  
gengar
Moderator: LFA, Clubhouse

 
gengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NV
Posts: 5,287
Received 43 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i don't think it's a bad argument - why call it an nsx? why call an S-class and S-class when a new one has NO resemblance in any way to one from the 90's. times change.
Terrible argument. The S-Class occupies the same slot and purpose it always has - flagship big barge luxury with leading amenities and tech. If the next S-Class shed 1000lbs, had no tech or luxury inside, and drove like a Lotus, you don't think S-Class owners would complain about it being called an S-Class? I'm sure some people would like the "new S-Class", but c'mon, really?



Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i did watch the video and again, i found the analogy to be in very poor taste. i have friends in wheel chairs.
*shrug* I don't look at wheelchairs and other assistance devices as negatives; I look at a wheelchair as a positive device that allows some mobility to those who don't have it or have trouble achieving it. I find it an interesting device due to its simplicity and frankly I find it amazing that such devices were regularly in use as far back as the 1800s. Comparing to such a simple yet incredibly functional and important device was something I thought was a big praise of Honda's tech. It's too bad someone gets offended by everything these days.
gengar is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 02:01 PM
  #940  
Stroock639
Lead Lap
 
Stroock639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,828
Received 231 Likes on 175 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that's called an mx-5 miata (or fr-s/brz). not the same kind of car.



sure there is, it's called a boxster or caymen.
miata or brz is wayyy too slow and boxster and caymen are ugly and don't look totally unlike a beetle. also none of those have... VTEC!!!!!!!!
Stroock639 is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 02:11 PM
  #941  
Stroock639
Lead Lap
 
Stroock639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,828
Received 231 Likes on 175 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gengar
It's too bad someone gets offended by everything these days.
yeah nothing much you can do lol... far too many social justice warriors out there these days, it's impeding on free speech haha. some people are just natural protesters always looking for something to get upset about and HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD!! idk maybe it makes them feel like they're on some kind of moral high horse when there's a chance to criticize another for being offensive. almost like something they've done isn't so bad anymore because look how offensive that other person was! i've really lost my patience for this stuff being here at UMass now lol, makes me miss good ol NY where you're still able to jokingly be a **** to someone and they understand it's all in jest without going

sarcasm is a language just like any other haha
Stroock639 is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 02:21 PM
  #942  
situman
Pole Position
 
situman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 3,408
Received 162 Likes on 112 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stroock639
miata or brz is wayyy too slow and boxster and caymen are ugly and don't look totally unlike a beetle. also none of those have... VTEC!!!!!!!!
VTEC used to mean something now its just marketing and its outdated. It was Honda's "turbo" back in the days, high horsepower without using a turbo, but no torque. This car just doesnt sound mean or anything special.
situman is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 02:27 PM
  #943  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gengar
*shrug* I don't look at wheelchairs and other assistance devices as negatives; I look at a wheelchair as a positive device that allows some mobility to those who don't have it or have trouble achieving it. I find it an interesting device due to its simplicity and frankly I find it amazing that such devices were regularly in use as far back as the 1800s. Comparing to such a simple yet incredibly functional and important device was something I thought was a big praise of Honda's tech. It's too bad someone gets offended by everything these days.
I'm not offended, I just think it was STUPID to use a guy in a wheelchair to explain torque vectoring in a car .....

Last edited by bagwell; 12-08-15 at 03:35 PM.
bagwell is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 02:59 PM
  #944  
gengar
Moderator: LFA, Clubhouse

 
gengar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NV
Posts: 5,287
Received 43 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bagwell
I'm not offended, I just think it was STUPID to use a (non-handicapped) guy in a wheelchair to explain torque vectoring in a car .....
So if they used a handicapped person to explain it, that'd be acceptable? To me, that seems more denigrating to those with mobility impairments.
gengar is offline  
Old 12-08-15, 03:34 PM
  #945  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gengar
So if they used a handicapped person to explain it, that'd be acceptable? To me, that seems more denigrating to those with mobility impairments.
nope....edited my post
bagwell is offline  


Quick Reply: Acura NSX News



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:52 AM.