Acura NSX News
03-24-16, 01:34 PM
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true, but that doesn't mean there isn't a TON of details that are paid attention to (within the strict rules), and still plenty potent:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r...r-engines1.htm
"The 358-cubic-inch (5.9-liter) V-8 is up front and has pushrods actuating two valves per cylinder. A single four-barrel Holley carburetor delivers the engine's fuel. The manual transmission has four forward speeds. There are no overhead camshafts, multivalve cylinder heads, fuel injection, paddle shifters, or sophisticated electronics. It's like racing-car development stopped in the 1960s. Still, you can't argue with a 5.9-liter engine that spins to 9500 rpm and makes close to 900 horsepower. The Toyota engineers present weren't revealing exact figures, but … the latest-spec engines make more than 875 horsepower. The car I drove was about 30 horses down, but 850 ponies in a 3500-pound car is still enough to rivet my attention"
03-24-16, 01:35 PM
#1082
true, but that doesn't mean there isn't a TON of details that are paid attention to (within the strict rules), and still plenty potent:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r...r-engines1.htm
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r...r-engines1.htm
03-25-16, 02:50 AM
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It's not always about the tech or lap times. Nascars are as low tech as they get in the racing world, yet, it's magnitudes more entertaining to watch. Not only are the cars livelier, but the drivers have more personality than say F1 cars and drivers. I dont think anyone that's into racing will argue that Nascar is more entertaining to watch than F1 races. When driving a car becomes a video game, people will get bored of it but when you drive a car that is raw waiting to be tamed, it makes the driver feel special.
03-25-16, 06:54 AM
#1084
It seems like your opinions of the new NSX are being skewed by your fanboy days of 90's and early 00's automotive lore. I don't think Honda is trying to do too much of what everyone else is doing, rather they are doing exactly what they should be doing, flexing their engineer prowess/muscle w/in the confines of today's automotive standards/regulations.
From everything I've read, this car is meant for one thing, achieving lap times. I'm sure if you were to actually get behind the wheel of one these cars and drive it like you stole it on the track you'd surely get that "emotion and feel." The argument that hybrid tech, electronic steering, and dual clutch transmissions take away from the driving experience is obscure. Especially when cars equipped w/ such tech are far exceedingly superior to their predecessors. I bet motorheads who's bread and butter revolved around the carburetor back in the day senselessly pined about the lack of emotion and feel when fuel injection was introduced.
From everything I've read, this car is meant for one thing, achieving lap times. I'm sure if you were to actually get behind the wheel of one these cars and drive it like you stole it on the track you'd surely get that "emotion and feel." The argument that hybrid tech, electronic steering, and dual clutch transmissions take away from the driving experience is obscure. Especially when cars equipped w/ such tech are far exceedingly superior to their predecessors. I bet motorheads who's bread and butter revolved around the carburetor back in the day senselessly pined about the lack of emotion and feel when fuel injection was introduced.
Your argument that the tech makes the car faster has nothing to do with the driving feel of the car. Yes, like I stated- It will drive infinitely better, but you WILL lose the old drivers feedback. I would take a old porsche with no traction control and some sticky rubber, over a technological marvel (For fun), but if I am trying to achieve lap times from stop light to stop light, I may be interested in one of these cars in the future
All jokes aside, I love all cars. You seemed to have missed that from my previous post. I can appreciate a tech marvel just as much as an old Packard, but for my personal wants/needs- I stick to my opinions
03-25-16, 06:56 AM
#1085
It's not always about the tech or lap times. Nascars are as low tech as they get in the racing world, yet, it's magnitudes more entertaining to watch. Not only are the cars livelier, but the drivers have more personality than say F1 cars and drivers. I dont think anyone that's into racing will argue that Nascar is more entertaining to watch than F1 races. When driving a car becomes a video game, people will get bored of it but when you drive a car that is raw waiting to be tamed, it makes the driver feel special.
03-25-16, 07:02 AM
#1086
You're missing the point of my rebuttle. I wasn't advocating that advancement's in engineering make for a better driving experience, in comparison to the sports cars of yesterday. A person's driving experience is personally subjective to that individual, and whatever floats your boat, floats your boat. I'm questioning the validity of your opinion that today's modern day sports cars don't provide a quality visceral driving experience, in the same manner that sports cars from the 90's and early 00's do, especially when you have not had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of some of these new sports cars, like the NSX in question. Heck, your rationale about Nascar supports my point; I don't get how your watching of Nascar and F1 as a 3rd person, can manipulate/mold your opinion that driving a Nascar car is a better experience than driving a F1 car. Just like, I don't get how reading specs of a spec sheet and watching youtube test videos on the new NSX correlates w/ your opinions about the actual behind the wheel driving experience. That's why I stated, that your opinion of the new NSX is likely skewed by your experience w/ 90's sports cars. You make it sound like, just because the new NSX w/ all it's computers and driver aids, makes it a easy car to drive from a technical standpoint.
I am all for a "faster" car, and I do appreciate the advancements made although it probably does not sound like it.
03-25-16, 12:55 PM
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If an Enthusiast=Fanboy, Then by all means call me a fanboy any day of the week! You do not sound like an enthusiast to me, judging by your last post. Could it be you are a tech fan boy?
Your argument that the tech makes the car faster has nothing to do with the driving feel of the car. Yes, like I stated- It will drive infinitely better, but you WILL lose the old drivers feedback. I would take a old porsche with no traction control and some sticky rubber, over a technological marvel (For fun), but if I am trying to achieve lap times from stop light to stop light, I may be interested in one of these cars in the future
All jokes aside, I love all cars. You seemed to have missed that from my previous post. I can appreciate a tech marvel just as much as an old Packard, but for my personal wants/needs- I stick to my opinions
Your argument that the tech makes the car faster has nothing to do with the driving feel of the car. Yes, like I stated- It will drive infinitely better, but you WILL lose the old drivers feedback. I would take a old porsche with no traction control and some sticky rubber, over a technological marvel (For fun), but if I am trying to achieve lap times from stop light to stop light, I may be interested in one of these cars in the future
All jokes aside, I love all cars. You seemed to have missed that from my previous post. I can appreciate a tech marvel just as much as an old Packard, but for my personal wants/needs- I stick to my opinions
03-25-16, 01:37 PM
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Does anyone actually think electric steering makes a car superior to its hydraulic steering predecessors?
03-25-16, 05:24 PM
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03-25-16, 05:29 PM
#1091
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Perhaps so. But new Bugattis probably sell for considerably more than the 1.3M list, simply because dealers know that their buyers are so well-heeled, and can afford it.
03-26-16, 06:59 PM
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I believe the Bugatti point is it has a list prices higher than Hendrick paid for NSX #1 ($1.7million to welder $2 million).
Yes, I placed an order for an NSX, supposedly #160, thanks. Should see it in the May/June time frame.
I believe the Bugatti point is it has a list prices higher than Hendrick paid for NSX #1 ($1.7million to welder $2 million).
Yes, I placed an order for an NSX, supposedly #160, thanks. Should see it in the May/June time frame.
03-26-16, 07:01 PM
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03-28-16, 07:46 AM
#1094
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true, but that doesn't mean there isn't a TON of details that are paid attention to (within the strict rules), and still plenty potent:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r...r-engines1.htm
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-r...r-engines1.htm
Last edited by situman; 03-28-16 at 07:58 AM.
03-28-16, 07:57 AM
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You're missing the point of my rebuttle. I wasn't advocating that advancement's in engineering make for a better driving experience, in comparison to the sports cars of yesterday. A person's driving experience is personally subjective to that individual, and whatever floats your boat, floats your boat. I'm questioning the validity of your opinion that today's modern day sports cars don't provide a quality visceral driving experience, in the same manner that sports cars from the 90's and early 00's do, especially when you have not had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of some of these new sports cars, like the NSX in question. Heck, your rationale about Nascar supports my point; I don't get how your watching of Nascar and F1 as a 3rd person, can manipulate/mold your opinion that driving a Nascar car is a better experience than driving a F1 car. Just like, I don't get how reading specs of a spec sheet and watching youtube test videos on the new NSX correlates w/ your opinions about the actual behind the wheel driving experience. That's why I stated, that your opinion of the new NSX is likely skewed by your experience w/ 90's sports cars. You make it sound like, just because the new NSX w/ all it's computers and driver aids, makes it a easy car to drive from a technical standpoint.