Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Lexus LF-CC Paris Motor Show

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-17-12, 12:41 PM
  #91  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

I am amazed at how nice it looks. I am assuming this is the coupe version of the new IS. Who knows?? Either way Lexus isnt just heading in the right direction. They are running in the right direction. I am impressed with the quality of the products, technological advancements , and the fresh and sporty designs that will inevitably bring many buyers from Audi, BMW, and Mercedes . GOOD JOB
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 12:48 PM
  #92  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Lexus LF-CC Concept: First Look





Looks like: A luxurious version of the Scion FR-S/Toyota GT-86
Defining characteristics: Rear-wheel drive, full-hybrid, midsize coupe
Ridiculous features: The gaping spindle grille; whatever happened to front bumpers?
Chances of being mass-produced: 100%, Lexus is working on a midsize sports coupe

In a bid to bring a bit more fun to the Lexus lineup, Toyota's luxury brand will debut a new entry-level luxury coupe in the coming years. Today, we get a first glimpse of what that midsize coupe and other future Lexus models will look like via the Lexus LF-CC. Details about the brand's all-new hybrid powertrain also were released.

The LF-CC is essentially a more practical version of the LF-LC concept. The LF-CC is smaller than the last concept and designed around an actual future Lexus platform that'll be used on midsize entry-level models. In addition, the concept is theoretically powered by a real hybrid powertrain.

The model features an updated interpretation of Lexus's "L-finesse" design aesthetic, which we've seen on the LF-LC and LF-Gh. You really need to look at the headlights up close to see the amount of ornate detail in the forward illumination system. There are three lamps for each headlight and all are housed in independent LED modules. There's no conventional housing cover, which gives the concept a bug-eyed look. I guess it's a great accompaniment for the spindle grille.

Right below the headlights are daytime running lights that seamlessly integrate into the top of the front fenders. Speaking of the spindle grille — a design first worn by the 2013 Lexus GS and then the refreshed 2013 Lexus RX — this one is the most ambitious application yet. As far as we can tell, the front bumper lacks a center reinforcement. Even with lax front bumper regulations, this bumper is probably unacceptable for a production model. Expect it to be tamed down a bit.

The rear taillamp housings resemble webbing and a shark antenna that also doubles as a center rear stop lamp. It's very gnarly. While the front and rear of the LF-CC are unique, the side profile and upper rear-deck smack of Scion FR-S/Toyota GT-86. If Lexus didn't explicitly state that this model was much larger than the Scion, we'd think it was a heavily reworked variant. The derivative side profile is probably just a case of aerodynamics trumping design or maybe Toyota's designers got lazy.

Lexus says the interior features a new aesthetic that will slowly make its way to future models. It'll feature a cacophony of displays, multimedia controls and a driver-oriented cockpit area. No interior photos were provided, however.

The LF-CC features an all-new hybrid powertrain, according to the carmaker. It's a 2.5-liter inline-four-cylinder with direct injection that was built specifically for hybrid use. The engine is mated to a high-output, water-cooled electric motor.

We'll have more photos and information about the Lexus LF-CC concept once the 2012 Paris Motor Show gets underway later in September.
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...22798%3A423059
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 12:49 PM
  #93  
Allen K
-0----0-

iTrader: (4)
 
Allen K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NJ
Posts: 9,184
Received 582 Likes on 401 Posts
Default

Rear is pretty ugly
Allen K is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 12:58 PM
  #94  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,841
Received 110 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ndk83
yea thats most likely scenario since the current one is based on a shortened GS. but one can always hope right?



and why do you think it would be impossible?
because you dont want your luxury car to ride on what is modified econo car platform, and it is not... it is running of smaller version of best handling luxury midsize car :-)
spwolf is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:10 PM
  #95  
bagwell
Lexus Champion
 
bagwell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 11,205
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

heavy RS5 influence in the grill IMO...which is not a bad thing.


Last edited by bagwell; 09-17-12 at 01:13 PM.
bagwell is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:11 PM
  #96  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Lexus LF-CC Concept First Look

ITS OFFICIAL: LF-CC IS A PREVIEW OF NEXT IS

[B]This Is IS: Paris Show Concept Previews Next-Gen Coupe/Sedan/B]





Now that's what we call a spindle! The Lexus LF-CC concept is the most radical take yet on the brand's new corporate face, and while many of its most expressive design cues won't make it onto any Lexus production car, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what this concept will eventually become.

Ahead of the LF-CC's public disrobing at the 2012 Paris auto show, Motor Trend had an opportunity to talk turkey with its key designers. There's no coyness as to what it's all about. It previews a new compact coupe, and by extension a sedan. "It's near-future D-segment premium," says exterior designer Hideaki Iida. So does this concept preview next year's new IS, we ask? "You can guess that," he nods.

Iida sweeps his arm over the car, showing the proportions, the long hood, and short overhang characteristic of a rear-drive car. The roof appears to gain depth as your eye moves rearward, flowing into a broad D-pillar above the rear fenders. "I wanted a strong volume in that region," Iida says, "to give [visual] traction to the rear wheel."

The concept's powertrain is a 2.5-liter four-cylinder bolstered by a take on the Toyota/Lexus hybrid system that's been developed as more of a power/torque booster. It's planned for a production intro soon. The engine is said to be all-new (we're not sure how an existing engine can be all-new, but OK), and like other Toyota and Lexus hybrid engines, it runs on the Atkinson cycle for best economy at mid revs. Performance and efficiency gains come from the addition of a direct-injection system.

Unlike other Lexus hybrids, the body design doesn't aim to make explicit the hybrid powertrain or fuel-economy potential. "We used to show the cars were hybrid, but now this is more emotional and sporty," says Lexus Design group manager Takeshi Tanabe. The long nose will also house gasoline engines, which at present consist of a version of the naturally aspirated 2.5-liter four (IS 250), 3.5-liter V-6 (IS 350), and the 5.0-liter V-8 in the IS F in the U.S. This would be the first IS hybrid.

Tanabe explains, "In the past, Lexus was about reliability, quality, comfort, and silence. We still have that, but we are adding emotion through the design to attract younger buyers. From now, from the new GS and this CC Concept, we're adding excitement."

As for rivals in this segment, he openly talks about the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes C-Class. "We have to challenge them." Those cars work as distinctively German designs that have over the generations set what has become a global template. Tanabe acknowledges his car has to fit the market while not being a copycat. "In category and price, it has competition. But it's a Lexus." And being a Lexus means an interpretation of Japanese design onto the Euro template. "It uses contrasts between the J factor and the Euro factor."

While some might see that contrast as a conflict, Lexus doesn't. Lexus calls its design language L-Finesse, and it's all about contrasts. Uninterrupted surfaces are set against sharp detailing. Acute angles highlight smooth curves. Surprisingly placid areas are juxtaposed with areas of busy detailing. It's not too far-fetched to say this goes beyond automotive styling to reflect Japanese culture and the Tokyo aesthetic. While it values peacefulness, tranquility, and Zen tradition, if you turn your eyes the other way they'll be assailed by busy graphics and the hectic bleeps and flashing lights of high-tech buzz.

When walking MT around the car, the designers start at the front, pointing out (not that we'd have missed it) the bold iteration of the new Lexus spindle grille. It's gapingly big, and edged in polished chrome. Its effect is magnified because almost every line and shape all the way back to the windshield either begins at, or echoes, a facet of the grille.

On either side of the lower part of the grille are curtains that deflect airflow into brake cooling ducts, though we're struggling to see why a 2.5-liter hybrid would need this much cooling. We expect those ducts will be toned down and the grille partially blanked off to reduce aero drag in a production car.

Contrasting with the plain surface of the hood and the comparatively unornamented (if bold) graphics of the grille and front bumper are the jewel-like headlamp clusters. Each side has a bank of three multi-LED circular main lamps, each with little tower-shaped markers below, and a swoosh lamp forming the DRL and blinker. Distinctively, the main lamps sit in individual metal plinths that are finned to act as heat sinks. Tanabe admits parts of this cluster aren't production feasible yet. "Sometimes we get inspired by engineering, but here we hope we've inspired the engineers."

The car wears the requisite, concept-style 20-inch wheels, with 245/35 tires at the front and 285/30 behind. No wonder the stance is good, but you've got to hope it doesn't look puny when we see a production version on, say, 17s. The wheels themselves have a beautiful design:

Each satin-finished spoke weaves between the halves of one of the bifurcated polished spokes. Again, while they're too difficult for current production, Iito says one day a three-dimensional printing apparatus may be able to achieve the effect.

Along the sides, we again see exceptionally calm surfacing in the door, but below that in the rocker is a deep channel, its upward flick continuing in the cutline of the rear bumper. That cutline is interesting: Lexus usually strives to get the gaps between panels reduced to the absolute minimum. Instead, this one carries emphasis, broadening out to give a gap -- almost a wound -- through which we see the taillamp emerge. That lamp cluster carries a characteristic swooshing L motif, like the rear of the side window, the air vents in the hood, the door mirror surround and many other parts.

Just as the taillamp seems to emerge through a gap in the bodywork, in the cabin we see air vents breaking through the leather of the dash. The center stack is made almost entirely of display screens, one of them a touch controller replacing the leather pad Lexus currently uses. The HVAC display looks like concept-car glitz, but at least the main gauge cluster is similar to what's in the LF-A, so there's hope we'll see something like that on the road version.

The LF-CC has given us an appetite for the showroom car. Lexus was a byword for bland inoffensiveness, but not anymore. This LF-CC, the even more future-oriented LF-LC concept at the 2012 Detroit show, the new GS, and the LFA all show the direction of travel. "Maybe some will like this car; maybe some won't," says Tanabe. "I don't want to say we'll offend people who don't like it, but I do want to be distinctive."
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...#ixzz26l9wLbcS
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:11 PM
  #97  
ndk83
Pole Position
 
ndk83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DXB / AD
Posts: 2,827
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by spwolf
because you dont want your luxury car to ride on what is modified econo car platform, and it is not... it is running of smaller version of best handling luxury midsize car :-)
haha speak for yourself. the 86 handles beautifully, and with an Lexus/IS version; it would obviously be alot more luxurious and very comfortable yet retaining that fantastic handling that the 86 is becoming famous for. itll give the 3series a proper run for its money. I really want this to happen.

tbh if Lexus is serious about building its "sporty" image this should be a no brainer. Anyhow the ES fills that luxury comfortable non-sporty segment . They should make the IS a proper drivers car.
ndk83 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:12 PM
  #98  
enjoi926
Driver School Candidate
 
enjoi926's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

nice, wonder what it'll have for a motor
enjoi926 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:22 PM
  #99  
ndk83
Pole Position
 
ndk83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: DXB / AD
Posts: 2,827
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Vh_Supra26
[B][SIZE="5"]


]
Initally when the GS concept came out i HATED the lack of a headlight housing.

On this sketch however i have completely changed my mind. it looks simply badass. The car looks amazing.
ndk83 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:24 PM
  #100  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

ITS OFFICIAL: LF-CC IS A PREVIEW OF NEXT IS

[B]This Is IS: Paris Show Concept Previews Next-Gen Coupe/Sedan/B]





Now that's what we call a spindle! The Lexus LF-CC concept is the most radical take yet on the brand's new corporate face, and while many of its most expressive design cues won't make it onto any Lexus production car, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what this concept will eventually become.

Ahead of the LF-CC's public disrobing at the 2012 Paris auto show, Motor Trend had an opportunity to talk turkey with its key designers. There's no coyness as to what it's all about. It previews a new compact coupe, and by extension a sedan. "It's near-future D-segment premium," says exterior designer Hideaki Iida. So does this concept preview next year's new IS, we ask? "You can guess that," he nods.

Iida sweeps his arm over the car, showing the proportions, the long hood, and short overhang characteristic of a rear-drive car. The roof appears to gain depth as your eye moves rearward, flowing into a broad D-pillar above the rear fenders. "I wanted a strong volume in that region," Iida says, "to give [visual] traction to the rear wheel."

The concept's powertrain is a 2.5-liter four-cylinder bolstered by a take on the Toyota/Lexus hybrid system that's been developed as more of a power/torque booster. It's planned for a production intro soon. The engine is said to be all-new (we're not sure how an existing engine can be all-new, but OK), and like other Toyota and Lexus hybrid engines, it runs on the Atkinson cycle for best economy at mid revs. Performance and efficiency gains come from the addition of a direct-injection system.

Unlike other Lexus hybrids, the body design doesn't aim to make explicit the hybrid powertrain or fuel-economy potential. "We used to show the cars were hybrid, but now this is more emotional and sporty," says Lexus Design group manager Takeshi Tanabe. The long nose will also house gasoline engines, which at present consist of a version of the naturally aspirated 2.5-liter four (IS 250), 3.5-liter V-6 (IS 350), and the 5.0-liter V-8 in the IS F in the U.S. This would be the first IS hybrid.

Tanabe explains, "In the past, Lexus was about reliability, quality, comfort, and silence. We still have that, but we are adding emotion through the design to attract younger buyers. From now, from the new GS and this CC Concept, we're adding excitement."

As for rivals in this segment, he openly talks about the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes C-Class. "We have to challenge them." Those cars work as distinctively German designs that have over the generations set what has become a global template. Tanabe acknowledges his car has to fit the market while not being a copycat. "In category and price, it has competition. But it's a Lexus." And being a Lexus means an interpretation of Japanese design onto the Euro template. "It uses contrasts between the J factor and the Euro factor."

While some might see that contrast as a conflict, Lexus doesn't. Lexus calls its design language L-Finesse, and it's all about contrasts. Uninterrupted surfaces are set against sharp detailing. Acute angles highlight smooth curves. Surprisingly placid areas are juxtaposed with areas of busy detailing. It's not too far-fetched to say this goes beyond automotive styling to reflect Japanese culture and the Tokyo aesthetic. While it values peacefulness, tranquility, and Zen tradition, if you turn your eyes the other way they'll be assailed by busy graphics and the hectic bleeps and flashing lights of high-tech buzz.

When walking MT around the car, the designers start at the front, pointing out (not that we'd have missed it) the bold iteration of the new Lexus spindle grille. It's gapingly big, and edged in polished chrome. Its effect is magnified because almost every line and shape all the way back to the windshield either begins at, or echoes, a facet of the grille.

On either side of the lower part of the grille are curtains that deflect airflow into brake cooling ducts, though we're struggling to see why a 2.5-liter hybrid would need this much cooling. We expect those ducts will be toned down and the grille partially blanked off to reduce aero drag in a production car.

Contrasting with the plain surface of the hood and the comparatively unornamented (if bold) graphics of the grille and front bumper are the jewel-like headlamp clusters. Each side has a bank of three multi-LED circular main lamps, each with little tower-shaped markers below, and a swoosh lamp forming the DRL and blinker. Distinctively, the main lamps sit in individual metal plinths that are finned to act as heat sinks. Tanabe admits parts of this cluster aren't production feasible yet. "Sometimes we get inspired by engineering, but here we hope we've inspired the engineers."

The car wears the requisite, concept-style 20-inch wheels, with 245/35 tires at the front and 285/30 behind. No wonder the stance is good, but you've got to hope it doesn't look puny when we see a production version on, say, 17s. The wheels themselves have a beautiful design:

Each satin-finished spoke weaves between the halves of one of the bifurcated polished spokes. Again, while they're too difficult for current production, Iito says one day a three-dimensional printing apparatus may be able to achieve the effect.

Along the sides, we again see exceptionally calm surfacing in the door, but below that in the rocker is a deep channel, its upward flick continuing in the cutline of the rear bumper. That cutline is interesting: Lexus usually strives to get the gaps between panels reduced to the absolute minimum. Instead, this one carries emphasis, broadening out to give a gap -- almost a wound -- through which we see the taillamp emerge. That lamp cluster carries a characteristic swooshing L motif, like the rear of the side window, the air vents in the hood, the door mirror surround and many other parts.

Just as the taillamp seems to emerge through a gap in the bodywork, in the cabin we see air vents breaking through the leather of the dash. The center stack is made almost entirely of display screens, one of them a touch controller replacing the leather pad Lexus currently uses. The HVAC display looks like concept-car glitz, but at least the main gauge cluster is similar to what's in the LF-A, so there's hope we'll see something like that on the road version.

The LF-CC has given us an appetite for the showroom car. Lexus was a byword for bland inoffensiveness, but not anymore. This LF-CC, the even more future-oriented LF-LC concept at the 2012 Detroit show, the new GS, and the LFA all show the direction of travel. "Maybe some will like this car; maybe some won't," says Tanabe. "I don't want to say we'll offend people who don't like it, but I do want to be distinctive."
http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...#ixzz26l9wLbcS
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 01:51 PM
  #101  
adamls2
Lexus Champion
 
adamls2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,404
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

I love the concepts that lexus has been making lately. This one is a killer!!! I can't wait for whatever this thing is!! Lines are so sexy
adamls2 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 02:28 PM
  #102  
Marklouis
Lexus Champion
 
Marklouis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: al
Posts: 1,781
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

I would like to see custom grill designs for this thing. that's alot of space to play with!
Marklouis is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 02:57 PM
  #103  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Why do we have two threads on the same car? Shouldn't they both be merged into one thread?

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...sept-17th.html
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 03:01 PM
  #104  
spwolf
Lexus Champion
 
spwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 19,841
Received 110 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

p.s. grille consist of L signs :-)
spwolf is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 03:25 PM
  #105  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I honestly never thought of the FRS seeing it. I didn't think of anything quite frankly. The only time I saw another car was one angle it had a A5/S5 vibe from the side/rear 3/4 view.

What we are witnessing is Lexus/Toyota building exciting 2 doors and I hope people don't think they are all related. Exciting times for brand enthusiasts!
 


Quick Reply: Lexus LF-CC Paris Motor Show



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:13 AM.