August 2012 Auto Sales Thread
09-05-12, 08:46 AM
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August 2012 (Acura and Buick numbers include 25k cars which is not a luxury vehicle but they are included anyway)
Lexus: 24,237
Mercedes: 20,557
Buick: 18,000
BMW: 16,835
Acura: 15,646
Cadillac: 14,704
Audi: 11,524
Infiniti: 11,155
Lincoln-8,141
Land Rover: 3,727
Porsche-3,026
Jaguar-1,029
Lexus: 24,237
Mercedes: 20,557
Buick: 18,000
BMW: 16,835
Acura: 15,646
Cadillac: 14,704
Audi: 11,524
Infiniti: 11,155
Lincoln-8,141
Land Rover: 3,727
Porsche-3,026
Jaguar-1,029
09-05-12, 10:03 AM
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I think we can all reasonably speculate the BMW "fire sale" last month hurt 5 sales this month. Its still nice to see the GS sell 2nd in class and sales did rise compared to July.
That said speculation on the ES taking sales from everyone and not just the GS sounds reasonable. I've driven it, it no longer feels like a Camry based car at all. The interior is very well done with TONS of room in the rear. Surely the hybrid has is appealing with 40MPG average. Hard to argue with that figure. The sport mode helps tremendously.
That said speculation on the ES taking sales from everyone and not just the GS sounds reasonable. I've driven it, it no longer feels like a Camry based car at all. The interior is very well done with TONS of room in the rear. Surely the hybrid has is appealing with 40MPG average. Hard to argue with that figure. The sport mode helps tremendously.
I am definitely going to have to check out the new ES. On the surface, it looks more appealing than even the GS to me.
09-05-12, 10:31 AM
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But it is still only a single month. It could be a completely different story next month but we'll have to see a consistent trend to really know what's going on.
I am definitely going to have to check out the new ES. On the surface, it looks more appealing than even the GS to me.
I am definitely going to have to check out the new ES. On the surface, it looks more appealing than even the GS to me.
The first thing I said was this is an anomaly, never have I stated this is the norm.Still its nice to see out of all these years.
My FWD days are over. The 40 MPG of the ESh is appealing though, very appealing. The GS is IMO the far superior car in every area outside of rear seat room and rear 3/4s looks.
09-05-12, 11:24 AM
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Right its one month. Never been done before from all my years of reviewing this data The first thing I said was this is an anomaly, never have I stated this is the norm.
Still its nice to see out of all these years.
My FWD days are over. The 40 MPG of the ESh is appealing though, very appealing. The GS is IMO the far superior car in every area outside of rear seat room and rear 3/4s looks.
The first thing I said was this is an anomaly, never have I stated this is the norm.Still its nice to see out of all these years.
My FWD days are over. The 40 MPG of the ESh is appealing though, very appealing. The GS is IMO the far superior car in every area outside of rear seat room and rear 3/4s looks.
09-05-12, 11:26 AM
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Right its one month. Never been done before from all my years of reviewing this data The first thing I said was this is an anomaly, never have I stated this is the norm.
Still its nice to see out of all these years.
My FWD days are over. The 40 MPG of the ESh is appealing though, very appealing. The GS is IMO the far superior car in every area outside of rear seat room and rear 3/4s looks.
The first thing I said was this is an anomaly, never have I stated this is the norm.Still its nice to see out of all these years.
My FWD days are over. The 40 MPG of the ESh is appealing though, very appealing. The GS is IMO the far superior car in every area outside of rear seat room and rear 3/4s looks.
09-05-12, 12:30 PM
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http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...cery-cart.html
The praise the GS keeps getting is amazing. It is the sportiest car in its class and looking at the 4GS forum a ton of ex BMW owners have jumped ship. Word is surely getting out of how good of a driving car it is.
. I drove the F Sport back to back with a BMW 5 Series and a Mercedes E-Class on the a wide-open, high-speed course on the old runways at El Toro, and the European cars felt like donkey carts compared to the Lexus.
09-05-12, 03:36 PM
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Glad to see Lexus back on top. Hope the momentum continues after the Golden Opportunity. 
Curiously the CT is down by over 30% even as the gas prices stay high. Wonder what the cause was. The IS is the only other Lexus model that is down significantly, but we all know it's near the end of its cycle. All in all a great showing from Lexus.
Curiously the CT is down by over 30% even as the gas prices stay high. Wonder what the cause was. The IS is the only other Lexus model that is down significantly, but we all know it's near the end of its cycle. All in all a great showing from Lexus.
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09-06-12, 01:39 PM
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Glad to see Lexus back on top. Hope the momentum continues after the Golden Opportunity.
Curiously the CT is down by over 30% even as the gas prices stay high. Wonder what the cause was. The IS is the only other Lexus model that is down significantly, but we all know it's near the end of its cycle. All in all a great showing from Lexus.
Curiously the CT is down by over 30% even as the gas prices stay high. Wonder what the cause was. The IS is the only other Lexus model that is down significantly, but we all know it's near the end of its cycle. All in all a great showing from Lexus.
09-06-12, 02:03 PM
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09-08-12, 06:05 AM
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The praise the GS keeps getting is amazing. It is the sportiest car in its class and looking at the 4GS forum a ton of ex BMW owners have jumped ship. Word is surely getting out of how good of a driving car it is.
The praise the GS keeps getting is amazing. It is the sportiest car in its class and looking at the 4GS forum a ton of ex BMW owners have jumped ship. Word is surely getting out of how good of a driving car it is.
Look at this (from MotorTrend website):
F30 335i RWD 3586 lbs 300-hp/300-lb-ft with Adaptive M adjustable shocks and Sports-tuned suspension :
0-60 : 4.7s
figure eight-lap time : 25.7 sec
lateral acceleration :0.90 average g
GS350 F-Sport RWD 3834 lbs 306 hp/277 lb-ft with Rear Wheel Steering :
0-60 : 5.4s
figure eight-lap time : 25.4 sec
lateral acceleration :0.94 average g
The new 3 series is one class size smaller than the GS350 F-Sport, weighs 300lbs less, has superior power-to-weight ratio, has superior straight-line acceleration than the GS, yet pulls less average g and is slower on the handling circuit!
BMW not only can't compete with the Lexus GS in terms of driving dynamics with the 5 series in the mid-size class, it can't even compete handling-wise with its compact-sized offering, the new 3 series!
For a company that prides itself as maker of the Ultimate Driving Machine, for BOTH your mid-size and compact class sedans to be outhandled by a mid-size Lexus sedan, that is something that's very worrying.
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09-09-12, 06:07 PM
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not sure why but i've only seen two 4GS so far, all over florida.
09-09-12, 07:55 PM
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But it is still only a single month. It could be a completely different story next month but we'll have to see a consistent trend to really know what's going on.
I am definitely going to have to check out the new ES. On the surface, it looks more appealing than even the GS to me.
I am definitely going to have to check out the new ES. On the surface, it looks more appealing than even the GS to me.
Its a very good design and a very appealing car.
