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Old 09-04-12, 04:11 PM   #61
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As to the BMW, they have more supply than Lexus.. obviously they just pampered the sales last month and that got them back this month... it seems as if MB is moving ahead.

I wonder how much better Lexus could be doing if they had more models to sell, from nicer small engines to big engines... sales would be for sure up another 20%-30%
I still think that is debatable. BMW has added some potentially high volume sellers over the past year or so (X1, new X3, 3-series sedan and lesser extent new 6-series model lines, updated X5 and X6, etc) and IMO I do not think that overall sales reflect that big of a sales increase (also take into account Tsunami events last year). They may have added more model lines, but are likely capped by how many vehicles they can actually produce.
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I still think that is debatable. BMW has added some potentially high volume sellers over the past year or so (X1, new X3, 3-series sedan and lesser extent new 6-series model lines, updated X5 and X6, etc) and IMO I do not think that overall sales reflect that big of a sales increase (also take into account Tsunami events last year). They may have added more model lines, but are likely capped by how many vehicles they can actually produce.
it is not debatable since you can check their inventory levels on cars.com for instance, which are usually up to 30% less than real life... so in reality, BMW has 2 month supply right now and Lexus has 1.5 month supply under these sales numbers :-).

Lexus has gotten their supply up 2x since January and hence the sales increase... BMW has plenty of cars to sell.
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Old 09-04-12, 04:25 PM   #63
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for instance there 4800 5 series on sale and 3500 GS's. And those numbers are some 20% or so less than real inventory numbers.... so no, there is no shortage of models.
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Quick comparo:

August 2012 Sales by Brand
Lexus: 24,237
Mercedes: 20,557
BMW: 16,835
Acura: 15,646
Cadillac: 14,704

Audi: 11,524
Infiniti: 11,155
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Just so people don't think what you posted is the real order...
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strange I have yet to see a new ES on the road...
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strange I have yet to see a new ES on the road...
and that's why i'm wondering how many are/were at dealers this past month.

anyone: any way to know?

not that it matters much, it's a great car and going to sell very well.
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strange I have yet to see a new ES on the road...
you or someone has said the same about Camry after 2 months of 40k sales last year :-)

bitkahuna: probably 5k new ones sold by now, another 2k-3k at dealers right now. It is hard to say for brand new models as a lot of them are sold before they even come to dealerships so they dont get entered online.
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Just so people don't think what you posted is the real order...
If you add Acura where is Buick?

Porsche? Lincoln? Jaguar?

Saab ?
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I dont believe that was me You tend to see a lot of fancy cars in SF, we like our luxury vehicles
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Bash the ES all you want but it's in the same price class as the 3er and C-class. Those cars also make up a decent percentage of BMW/Merc sales.
Most brands depend on 1-3 models, it's no news flash and it's also not accurate to look at one month. Clearly the new ES and it's huge month moved the percentag in August.

All that needs to be said since trolls around the net are ignoring and not menttioning

1. Lexus bounced back to #1
2. The GS continues to do well and outsold the 5
3. The ES dominated
4. The RX dominated

Just last month the GS got ripped to shreds for selling 1660 units. Sales jumped, it sold 2nd best in class this month and all you hear are crickets. These same crickets have been quiet about the m flop for months.

Lets see if this Lexus momentum continues.
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If anyone ever had any doubts that Mr. Toyoda is serious about placing the Lexus brand back on top, Automotive News reports that Lexus sales increased 34% in July pushing the brand ahead of BMW and MB for July. Can Lexus sustain it's momentum? I believe they can, the ES is just getting out of the door and has really not picked up steam yet and the LS is waiting in the wings with its sport version and we all know the story about the GS, it's sales are leading the way. We know that BMW and MB still leads in yearly sales, but, I'm sure they are both looking over their shoulders now........, Check out the complete article below:


DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- Lexus, which lost its crown as the top-selling luxury auto brand in the U.S. last year, increased sales 34 percent last month to push past Mercedes-Benz and BMW.

It’s the first time Toyota's luxury brand beat both of its German competitors to be No. 1 in monthly sales since December 2010 before inventory was hurt by last year’s natural disasters in Asia. Lexus sold 24,237 vehicles in August, the company said in a statement.

While Lexus won the month, it still trails Mercedes and BMW for the year. U.S. sales of Mercedes rose 11 percent to 20,557 last month, extending its lead in the race for the luxury crown this year by more than 3,800 units over BMW.

The BMW brand, after surging in July with the help of incentives aimed at encouraging dealers to buy demo vehicles, declined 19 percent in August to 16,835.

Mercedes U.S. sales through August rose 14 percent to 168,462, according to the automaker.

BMW, which overtook Lexus last year to become the top-selling luxury brand in the U.S., sold 164,636 through August, a 5.6 percent gain, the company said. BMW beat Mercedes last year by 2,715 deliveries in the U.S.

Through August, Lexus sales gained 25 percent to 150,604. Toyota has targeted a 25 percent increase to 250,000 vehicles this year.

Mercedes expanded its lead over BMW from 104 U.S. deliveries through July. The sales results don’t include Daimler’s cargo vans and Smart cars and BMW’s Mini brand, which aren’t luxury vehicles.

“With an all-time record setting year so far and now with exciting product in the pipeline, including the all-new GL-Class currently on its way to dealers across the country, we plan to build on this momentum through the end of the year,” Steve Cannon, head of Mercedes in the U.S., said in a statement.



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They are making all the right moves with this revamping of the looks and image of the brand. I was reading an article today that said the sales of the 4GS are 400% over those of the 3GS. ( it was an article on the 2013 LS. I forget the magazine)
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jaguar land rover reports u.s. Sales for august 2012

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jaguar land rover north america sales increase 31 percent for august; best august in five years.
Land rover sales increase 33 percent for august driven by sales of range rover sport and range rover evoque
jaguar sales increase 27 percent for august; jaguar xf, xk and xj all post increases

september 4, 2012 (mahwah, nj) – jaguar land rover north america today reported august 2012 sales: Land rover sales for the month were 3,727 up 33 percent from 2,807 in 2011; jaguar sales for the month were 1,029 up 27 percent from 810 in 2011; jaguar land rover north america sales for the month were 4,756 up 31 percent from 3,617 in 2011. Jaguar land rover north america is up 18 percent year-to-date.

"jaguar land rover had its best u.s. August sales in five years with an increase of 31 percent driven by both brands," said andy goss, president, jaguar land rover north america. “clearly august was a strong auto shopping month in the united states and for jaguar land rover. This momentum sets up jaguar and land rover nicely for its upcoming 13 my product launches including jaguar xf and xj v6 and all wheel drive models and the all new range rover.”

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land rover
for the month of august, 2012, land rover sales were up 33 percent, driven by range rover sport and range rover evoque. The volume leader for august, 2012 was the range rover sport with 1,530 units sold, up 28 percent from 1,199 in 2011. The all-new range rover evoque, winner of the 2012 north american truck of the year, hit 700 units sold in august, 2012. The my12 range rover continues be solid with sales of 658, down only 1 percent, in the final year of the current generation. The all new range rover, featuring weight-saving aluminum architecture, goes on sale in december, 2012.

Land rover's 2012 model year line-up features four models: The 230-hp 3.2 liter i6 powered lr2; the lr4 powered by the 375-hp 5.0 liter v8; the range rover sport and range rover, both available with the naturally-aspirated 375-hp v8 and 510-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 powertrains. The 2012 range rover evoque has a starting price of $43,995* for the five-door, and $44,995* for the coupe and achieves 28 mpg** epa highway and 18 mpg** epa city. For my13, the land rover lr2 receives significant interior and exterior design updates, as well as a fuel efficient 240-hp turbocharged four cylinder engine.

Jaguar
jaguar's u.s. Sales for august, 2012 were up 27 percent to 1,029 from 810 in 2011. The volume leader for the month of august was the jaguar xf with 493 sales, up 21 percent from 409 in 2011. Sales for the jaguar xj were 426 units, up 39 percent from 307 in 2011. Year-to-date, jaguar sales are led by the jaguar xf sports sedan, up 20 percent for the year versus 2011.

For my13, jaguar transforms its u.s. Lineup, and dramatically expands u.s. Market presence with addition of:

Instinctive all wheel drive™ – available on both the xf and xj
supercharged 340hp v6 engines in the xf and xj
turbocharged 240hp four cylinder engine available in the xf
eight speed zf® automatic transmissions on all xf and xj models
auto engine start/stop on select xf and xj models

jaguar has launched a new global brand direction and marketing campaign, themed "alive,” which introduces the famed british brand to luxury consumers in a new modern context. The brand direction is driven by the belief that jaguar makes the world's most instinctively rewarding performance cars.

The campaign, created with spark 44, the international communications agency that's part-owned by jaguar land rover, will feature print, tv, digital advertising and a new look that contemporizes the aesthetics of the brand at every customer touch point. The jaguar brand will have new corporate identification and a new font, created exclusively for the brand. The dramatic alteration, including significant changes to the brand symbols of the “leaper” and “growler,” is the most extensive change jaguar has made to its visual identification in 40 years.

Jaguar's 2012 model year line-up features three models: The jaguar xj luxury sedan, powered by either the naturally-aspirated 385-hp v8, the 470-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 or the 510-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8; the jaguar xf sports sedan powered by either the naturally-aspirated 385-hp v8, the 470-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 or, in the xfr, the 510-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 powertrains; and the xk coupe and convertible sports cars powered by either the naturally-aspirated 385-hp v8, or for the xkr, the 510-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 powertrains. For 2012, jaguar has added its highest performance model ever, the 2012 jaguar xkr-s coupe and convertible with a 550-hp supercharged 5.0 liter v8 powertrain. The jaguar f-type will join the lineup in 2013.
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Great work Lexus! Let's see if it continues.
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