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Old 09-26-16, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
anyone else thinks it looks a bit like a lexus HS?
In the rear, more so than the front.

For those who haven't (yet) seen the thread, there is also a Sentra turbo model being added, somewhat like the old SE-R.

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I think this is one of the worst cars in the segment. Looks frumpy and so boring, and the turbo isn't bringing any significant performance to the lineup either.
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Default First Drive: Nissan Sentra SR Turbo Is About Managing Expectations



The best thing you can really say about the Nissan Sentra is that it’s good value. As these compact sedans get more grown up and feature-laden, the Sentra is a decent amount of car for the $20,000 range.

But most buyers will be tempted to add a little to their monthly payment and get one of the more accomplished cars in this class, ones that are more powerful and more refined than even the facelifted and quieted 2016 Sentra. Nissan has finally addressed the power situation with the 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo.

Nissan invited me earlier this week to state of Georgia to take a look at the 2017 Rogue - but before that review comes along, I can tell you what the also-new Sentra SR Turbo was like after a quick drive.



Sleepy sleeper

Not that you’d ever pick it out from a police lineup against other Sentra SRs. When I first saw the Turbo, I immediately dismissed it as the same Sentra I drove earlier this year until someone I was walking around with read the badges on the back.

Those of us hoping Nissan would go full NISMO on the Sentra are sorely disappointed. But in reality, the modest changes to the car would’ve likely been oversold by any outlandish additions to the exterior.

Changes are even less noticeable inside. Apart from different fabric, it was like jumping back several months ago to roughly the same Sentra I drove – and a lot of people who’ve been in a recent Sentra would likely agree.

It’s serviceable for less than $20,000, but off its game compared to what you’d find at a Honda, Hyundai or even Chevrolet dealership today.



Quick car goes quick

By lowering expectations, the SR Turbo won't disappoint those who got over the fact it doesn't say "SE-R" or "NISMO" anywhere. The car may be primarily an engine and transmission change, but this Sentra feels usefully more alert than the other models.

A six-speed manual is offered and the Sentra product guy I spoke to in Georgia says initial orders indicate dealers are actually going to stock them. The CVT is a no-cost option, however. Not that the manual is a particularly nice thing to use, but the ability to select your own gears allows you to wring out the little 1.6-liter turbo from the Juke and soon it becomes entertaining to constantly take the revs north of 4500. At 188 horsepower, it’s not in the league of hot hatches, but it does sit neatly between the Honda Civic EX-T and Volkswagen Jetta GLI – the SR Turbo’s main identified rivals.

But the rest of the SR Turbo feels Sentra-esque, for better or for worse. Changes in the transition were limited to slightly larger front brakes and bolting in a thicker cowl and not much else. Fine, for the money anyway.



The price is right

At less than $23,000, the SR Turbo seems right on the money for someone who needs a compact sedan but wants better-than-average performance. Manual and CVT versions are the same price and the only option is a big package combining leather seats and driver assistance tech.

Nissan has also improved the breed, as all 2017 Sentras that go on sale next month get the SR Turbo’s thicker side windows to keep out more noise and the interior storage situation benefits from a larger center console.

By not adding a certain vowel in the middle of the S and R other lauded Sentras used to have, the Sentra SR Turbo comes off as a perfectly likable car that has no intention of showing off in front of the performance compacts – and is happy that way. And if all you want is a compact sedan with added sparkle, it could be worth a look.
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DIG Turbo? Super stupid name.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
DIG Turbo? Super stupid name.
I don't think it's meant to be a marketing name a la EcoBoost. DIG --> Direct Injection Gas... similarly Hyundai/Kia use GDI, etc.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
DIG Turbo? Super stupid name.
I don't think its that bad.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
DIG Turbo? Super stupid name.
I feel like Nissan's been phoning it in with the sentra and altima the last two generations. nothing class leading or interesting to write about these vehicles. Like they're chasing after the rental fleet crowd here...
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Originally Posted by evident
I feel like Nissan's been phoning it in with the sentra and altima the last two generations. nothing class leading or interesting to write about these vehicles. Like they're chasing after the rental fleet crowd here...
They're chasing after the cheap skate crowd, because if you price out the Versa, Sentra, or Altima, with incentives and such they end up being the cheapest car in their class. And the largest in terms of interior room and trunk space.
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for that price, what does that reviewer expect?

i'm sure it's a fun and super reliable car to drive.
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Default 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo Review

Lukewarm, but a step in the right direction.



Don’t let the fancy name fool you: The 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo isn’t the sport compact you’ve been waiting for.FAST FACTS

Engine: 1.6L turbo four-cylinder
Power: 188 hp, 177 lb-ft
Transmission: Six-speed manual; continuously-variable automatic
EPA Fuel Economy (MPG): 28 city, 34 hwy (estimated)
Can Fuel Economy (L/100 km): 8.5 city, 6.9 hwy (estimated)
US Price: Starts at $22,825 (destination included)
CAN Price: Starts at $25,000 (estimated)

Yes, it comes packing a turbocharged engine under its hood, making the SR Turbo among the most powerful Sentras ever built; and yes, it boasts a revised suspension setup aimed at enhancing the car’s otherwise uninspiring driving characteristics. But those hoping this new turbocharged Sentra is the successor to the SE-RSpec V model of more than a decade ago be forewarned; it’s not. However, that doesn’t mean the SR Turbo isn’t an improved entry in a crowded segment, and it is at least a step in the right direction for one of the most underwhelming small sedans on the market.

Change From Within
With a mid-cycle refresh introduced on the Sentra for 2016, virtually all of the changes to the SR Turbo are beneath the sheetmetal. And foremost among them is the addition of a long-awaited turbocharged engine. Taken from the Nissan Juke, the 1.6-liter is the first forced-induction engine to power Nissan’s compact sedan, joining the naturally aspirated 1.8-liter found in the rest of the Sentra lineup. Compared to that engine, which makes a paltry 130 horsepower and 128 lb-ft of torque, the turbo puts out 50 percent more horsepower and 41 percent more torque for totals of 188 and 177, respectively, and slightly more than the 174 horsepower and 162 lb-ft of torque made by the 1.5-liter turbo available in the Honda Civic. Unlike that engine, however, the Nissan recommends premium fuel in the Sentra’s turbocharged powerplant, a mystifying proposition in a compact car.

Mated to the four-cylinder are a pair of available gearboxes — a six-speed manual and continuously variable automatic — also borrowed from the Juke, while the Sentra’s suspension setup has been overhauled to suit the SR Turbo, with front springs that are 10 percent stiffer, along with shock damping rates that have been increased 23 percent and 50 percent, respectively, front and rear.

Other changes include larger front brakes and an electric power steering system that has had its electronics remapped and features a larger steering motor to make it easier to handle at low speeds while providing enhanced feedback when the road opens up.



Sport-ish Compact
A short drive on the winding roads that surround Lake Oconee, about 90 minutes from downtown Atlanta, provided ample time to quickly conclude that this is no rival to the pending Honda Civic Si, let alone the Volkswagen Golf GTI or either of Ford’s ST hatches. While its driving characteristics have been vastly improved over the rest of the Sentra pack, the SR Turbo seems better suited to chasing down sport utilities than sport compacts.

The turbocharged engine is what the Sentra has been missing for years, but expectations of a torque-happy pocket rocket should be tempered. It certainly provides the additional power the Sentra so desperately needed, something that is immediately noticeable when entering the highway or passing slower traffic, but the SR Turbo feels big and heavy when pushed despite the healthy serving of torque.

Having only spent time with a manual-equipped car on the short drive east of Atlanta, the six-speed gearbox proved a welcome driving companion but far from perfect, with long throws and tight gates that make it easy to skip a gear or downshift unexpectedly. Likewise, the clutch is light and dead, offering little resistance when searching for the sweet spot. Still, chirping the tires from a standing start is easy, even if winding the engine out to redline can be a torrid-sounding affair.

Once rolling, the SR Turbo’s new suspension and steering help liven the drive relative to non-turbo Sentra models, the car willing to play along a bit as the corners beckon. The suspension is stiff, and perhaps stiffer than it needs to be, but it helps keep the car poised through turns despite the propensity for understeer, particularly in decreasing-radius corners.



Big And Basic
Where the Sentra really shines is in its roomy cabin, a tradition that continues in the SR Turbo. Headroom measures 39.4 inches (1,001 millimeters) and 36.7 inches (932 mm) fore and aft, while legroom comes in at 42.5 inches (1,079.5 mm) and 37.4 inches (950 mm), respectively. It also boasts a respectable 15.1 cu-ft (428 liters) trunk, putting it amongst the segment leaders when it comes to cargo space.

While big, the interior, at least without the premium pack along for the ride, does feel a bit disappointing, with a heavy dose of plastic holding it down. Likewise, the standard infotainment system does without a touchscreen, a growing norm in the segment, and feels outdated. Adding the premium package is worth the price of admission (estimated at $2,600 in the US, $2,700 in Canada), and includes leather seats, a power sunroof, eight-speaker Bose audio system, and a 5.8-inch touchscreen infotainment system with navigation, as well as blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert. Unfortunately, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility aren’t part of the infotainment package, at least for the foreseeable future.


The Verdict: 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo Review

A sport compact it is not, the 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo missing the attitude and aggressiveness necessary to be considered a reincarnation of the vaunted Sentra SE-R Spec V. The SR Turbo is, however, a massive step forward for the Sentra when it comes to power and drivability.

LOVE IT
  • Additional power
  • #Savethemanuals
LEAVE IT
  • Lack of true sportiness
  • Premium fuel recommended
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Lack of true sportiness
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Default The road to NISMO | 2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo First Drive



Let's get something straight off the bat: If you were hoping for a modern-day successor to the legendary Sentra SE-R, the new Sentra SR Turbo isn't the car you've been waiting for. Yeah, there's more power here, and Nissan tweaked the suspension, but the result is essentially a quicker SR, not the NISMO makeover we know is coming.

We'll start with the good – this engine is lovely. Plucking the 1.6-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder from the Juke crossover was an inspired move, blessing the SR Turbo with 188 horsepower and 177 pound-feet of torque, 58 hp and 49 lb-ft more than the standard SR's 1.8-liter naturally aspirated four-cylinder.

While those numbers are a big improvement, the Juke's 1.6-liter has always been more fun than its specs indicate; that's true in this Sentra, too. The free-revving engine makes all the right noises while producing healthy low- and mid-range torque – peak twist is available from 1,600 to 5,200 rpm. This is the first truly zippy Sentra since the old SR20DE-equipped SE-Rs of the 1990s. But again, it's not perfect.

Yes, once you get going the SR Turbo has performance-car speed, but the gas pedal doesn't respond like something with this kind of power. In default mode, the throttle response is too sluggish to really suit the engine's verve. The Eco setting is, predictably, even worse. Instead, we recommend Sport Mode, which can be switched on via button below and to the left of the steering wheel, next to the one for Eco. Selecting Sport immediately makes the throttle more responsive and enjoyable; Nissan ought to offer this tune as the SR Turbo's new default, but we suspect the tamer throttle map is needed to keep the EPA fuel economy ratings under control. The more sensitive pedal better suits the revvy nature of the 1.6-liter engine and makes managing the six-speed manual transmission easier.



The standard manual is one SR Turbo item that isn't in line with typical performance compacts. The clutch pedal's spring action isn't stiff enough, and combined with the sluggish throttle, it makes getting going in first gear tricky. In addition, the shifter's overlong throws and rubbery, vague gates just aren't precise and, consequently, aren't much fun.

The transmission is a frustrating counter to an engine that's so willing. There is an alternative – Nissan is selling its turbocharged car with an XTronic CVT, but our brief drive didn't afford us time with the two-pedal Sentra. While we imagine the CVT provides a smoother experience, the manual is at least engaging.

Along with swapping in the new engine, Nissan stiffened the front springs by ten percent, and the dampers are stiffer by 23 percent in front and 50 percent in back. It's an improvement on paper, but from behind the wheel, the suspension changes seem to accommodate the engine's added weight without improving handling ability.

The tall, narrow Sentra body still rolls considerably in cornering. Add in with the numb, light steering, and the Sentra is never sharp enough to entertain in the bends. This lack of agility and handling immediacy hurts the overall SR Turbo package most – if Nissan had simply opted for a more sporting handling character, with maybe a lower ride height and larger anti-roll bars, this would be a fun, affordable performance package rather than just a faster Sentra.



On the flipside, that lack of suspension fettling means the Sentra remains comfortable. Even with the uprated dampers, the ride is smooth compared to other compact sedans. Even the wheel-and-tire combo – 17-inchers with 50-series rubber – shows an emphasis on comfort over outright performance. The SR Turbo manages both potholes and broader sections of uneven pavement without drama, and it's quiet to boot, muting impact noises better than competitors with bigger wheels and less sidewall.

While the unassuming wheels pay dividends in ride comfort, they do little for the Sentra SR Turbo's aesthetic. The fascia, side sills, tail, and, yes, the wheels, are identical to those on the non-turbo Sentra SR. If that car didn't exist, this exterior look wouldn't trip us up, but making a big powertrain change without similar upgrades to the exterior – even something as simple as a unique set of wheels for the SR Turbo – feels like a missed opportunity. Instead, the addition of a "Turbo" badge on the rear deck is the only change.

Nissan took a similarly limited approach in this Sentra's cabin, carrying everything over from the standard SR. There's nothing inherently wrong here – it's a solidly mid-segment interior in terms of quality, layout and design – performance car or not – but as with the exterior, there are no unique touches to set it off. The SR Turbo uses the same steering wheel, seats, and shifter as the standard model.



Regardless of transmission, the Sentra SR Turbo starts at $22,825, or $2,000 more than the naturally aspirated Sentra SR. Nissan hasn't confirmed the price for the sole option group, the SR Turbo Premium Package, but as it mirrors the content of the normal SR Premium Package – power moonroof, six-way power leather seats, NissanConnect with navigation, an eight-speaker Bose stereo, blind-spot monitoring, and rear cross-traffic alert – we expect the $2,590 price to carry over. That would bring the sticker of a loaded car like the one we tested to $25,415.

That's more affordable than a loaded, manual-transmission Kia Forte5 SX with the Premium Pack, a car with similar performance and a price of $26,335. The bigger concern is that both cars edge dangerously close to proper hot-hatchback pricing. TheFord Focus ST starts at $25,300, while the Volkswagen GTI is available for $26,415, and the Subaru WRX is $27,515. It's worth noting that none of those prices include all the equipment available on the Sentra SR Turbo – in some cases, you're paying extra for things like heated leather seats, navigation, and an upgraded stereo.

In both price and performance, the Turbo is stuck somewhere between standard econocar and performance compact, in part because it has to leave room for another car at the top of the lineup. While Nissan hasn't confirmed that the Sentra NISMO will be a thing, we have evidence in the form of spy shots and the smirking "no comment" responses we got when asking about what comes after the SR Turbo. The Sentra SR Turbo is an improvement over the SR for sure, essentially a nicely equipped economy car with more power. So while it's not a NISMO, it shows that the Sentra lineup is moving in the right direction to satisfy SE-R fanatics. All it needs now is the suspension, tires, and looks to go with it.
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