Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > General Forums > Car Chat
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

2013 Lexus LS Unveiling

Closed Thread
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-09-12, 12:00 PM   #31
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,311
Default

p.s.2. If we remember the article about TMG - and their twin turbo LS, we should recall how head of TMG said that their engines come from Japan.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 12:05 PM   #32
rominl
exclusive matchup

Trader Score: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 79,297
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spwolf View Post
i dont think they will spend money on interior and exterior and not change the rest as they did with GS.... I bet it will be very similar to GS changes if they do the interior... they might do what RX did and just do some special model + grille and small interior changes.

p.s. regards to our talks about turbo's, i just realized leaked brochure of next gen Auris had same engines as before :-). Traditionally, Toyota introduces new powertrains first in Japan.
that would be interesting to see. but seeing the same suspension going through 2 "generations" for 12 years run? i don't know what to think of it

but then again, i have been told by various source that this is going to be a "facelift", however a pretty "big" one since it's quite some changes. so we will see how that goes. i have to agree if this is facelift (as i am told by lexus people) then it's probably the biggest we have seen from lexus so far. on the other hand, looking at all the previous generations of lexus vehicles, big picture wise, every generation means different chassis / suspension, etc... tons of things.

drivetrains i am ok, as we have seen it all too well with 3gs and 4gs debut. but i would expect chassis and suspension changes for steps of improvements.
__________________
Yes, I drove it. The great feeling of boiling blood.
rominl is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 12:08 PM   #33
LexFather
Guest
Trader Score: ()
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I really want to see all the new Lexus with the new face models together to see if there is any confusion. So far with the GS and RX there is no confusion for me in regards to looking like one another or like anything else. I think that is what Lexus is hoping for.

The current "Sport" already got great reviews and from my understanding sold well. I don't expect the new sport model to really gain much anything else outside of official F sport badges. A power bump would be nice though.
 
Old 07-09-12, 12:10 PM   #34
LexsCTJill
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON
Posts: 1,729
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rominl View Post
there is always a first to everything. we will see how interior is "changed". if the car has the same chassis / platform / suspension / drive train, i don't know, hard for me to call that new. if it's "new", i would expect it to stay for another 6-7 years
The LS won't be a carryover model with a new spindle. It will have a lot of similar parts, wheelbase etc as the outgoing model but it won't be a ground up redesign.

I am excited to see what Lexus will do on the interior.
LexsCTJill is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 12:16 PM   #35
LexsCTJill
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON
Posts: 1,729
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitkahuna View Post
sounds like no new drivetrains?
Revised gear ratios for better MPG.
LexsCTJill is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 12:42 PM   #36
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rominl View Post
that would be interesting to see. but seeing the same suspension going through 2 "generations" for 12 years run? i don't know what to think of it

but then again, i have been told by various source that this is going to be a "facelift", however a pretty "big" one since it's quite some changes. so we will see how that goes. i have to agree if this is facelift (as i am told by lexus people) then it's probably the biggest we have seen from lexus so far. on the other hand, looking at all the previous generations of lexus vehicles, big picture wise, every generation means different chassis / suspension, etc... tons of things.

drivetrains i am ok, as we have seen it all too well with 3gs and 4gs debut. but i would expect chassis and suspension changes for steps of improvements.
i dont think suspension improvements are that expensive to do, so I am sure we will see them... if they could do some changes for Sport model that sold in very small numbers, I am sure they can do GS type changes for LS.

But again, they might do a change like 2013 RX. Grille + small suspension tweaks + new wheel in the interior and colors.
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 01:01 PM   #37
LexFather
Guest
Trader Score: ()
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You know this is maybe the most risque change when it comes to the spindle grill. Grill changes on SUVs usually work out fine since they are taller and more butch. The GS it seems to have worked pretty well since that market is more apt for something aggressive being a sports sedan. The ES in pics it looks good but it is a risk since that market likes conservative looks.

For the LS, this is a big big risk even as D-class Flagships have gotten more bold in recent years. While the LS has gotten more stylish it still is conservatively styled. Will this traditional market of Lexus owners like this new face and direction? Will it attract tons of buyers from other brands like the GS seems to be doing?

Also considering this is a facelift they have to merge this aggressive front end with conservative sides/rear ala GS. The ES seems to really do a great job of blending it all together.

We already know what the reaction will be from Lexus haters and people with no imagination "omg predetor" or "omg big camry" so thats not a worry. What will the market ultimately say?

This may sound crazy but in a way the Equus blatantly copying the LS might be a great thing here. For those that want to show they have a Lexus, the new face will clearly shout that in spade with no confusion with a Hyundai.
 
Old 07-09-12, 01:05 PM   #38
Tee
Moderator
Trader Score: (0)
 
Tee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,540
Default

Well I can't wait to see the new update!
__________________

2007 LS460L Noble Spinel Mica/Cashmere
2012 RX350 Matador Red Mica/Parchment
2007 LS460 Black Sapphire Pearl/Cashmere (R.I.P.) http://tinyurl.com/78c36hd
2004 LS430 Modern Luxury-Flint Mica/Ash (R.I.P.) http://tinyurl.com/7wvpux5
My Build, Pics & Vids Thread: http://tinyurl.com/ckybwbo
Tee is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 01:21 PM   #39
Hoovey2411
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (16)
 
Hoovey2411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 30,229
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimxo View Post
A friend told me that the new IS ES LS will all look the same, just pick your size S M L.

Power trains and AWD do make a difference but I see his point.
This doesn't apply just to Lexus... this is the whole auto industry. The mentality is "One sausage, different lengths."
__________________
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic95774_1.gif
|Version 3.5 |TLN #918|
GIANTS|NINERS|SHARKS|WARRIORS
Hoovey2411 is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 01:30 PM   #40
adamls2
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
adamls2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,433
Bic Mac 0 adam904
Default

Really can't wait to see it!
__________________
~~adamls2~~


~~Boost 'n *****~~
adamls2 is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 02:15 PM   #41
CJITTY
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
CJITTY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: The South
Posts: 4,115
CJATL404
Default

They need to release it so it will drop values on the existing model so I can scoop my "new to me" 2010+ LWB on the low low lol...looking forward to the release!!
__________________
2008 LS600hL - Smokey Granite Mica
My LS600hL Build Thread with Photos and More http://tinyurl.com/cahf9mo
HOT!!---> LS460/LS600hL Community Wheel and Tire Research Thread http://tinyurl.com/bwg9hk4
CJITTY is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 02:36 PM   #42
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CJITTY View Post
They need to release it so it will drop values on the existing model so I can scoop my "new to me" 2010+ LWB on the low low lol...looking forward to the release!!
i think there are good discounts on new now, since its sales dropped significantly in past 12 months...
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 02:40 PM   #43
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,311
Default

What do you guys think about LS350 and LS450h? First one might end up in China and 2nd one might end up everywhere. So much sense.
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 02:52 PM   #44
rominl
exclusive matchup

Trader Score: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 79,297
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spwolf View Post
What do you guys think about LS350 and LS450h? First one might end up in China and 2nd one might end up everywhere. So much sense.
i think it makes sense especially for other regions like europe. no ls350 for the US though, please, just a horrible idea. i am actually not against ls450h for the US market, it delivers the kind of smoothness for US market imho

on the other hand regarding posts on "lexus looks so alike now" (and also other brands), it's really funny. when lexus cars didn't look like each other at all, people complained saying there is no design language and "trademark" styling for the brand. now they do, people complain. when bangle's 3 5 and 7 looked so different, people complained. now they have the same styling, people complain they are too similar

life is tough
__________________
Yes, I drove it. The great feeling of boiling blood.
rominl is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 04:37 PM   #45
spwolf
Lexus Fanatic
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 16,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rominl View Post
i think it makes sense especially for other regions like europe. no ls350 for the US though, please, just a horrible idea. i am actually not against ls450h for the US market, it delivers the kind of smoothness for US market imho

on the other hand regarding posts on "lexus looks so alike now" (and also other brands), it's really funny. when lexus cars didn't look like each other at all, people complained saying there is no design language and "trademark" styling for the brand. now they do, people complain. when bangle's 3 5 and 7 looked so different, people complained. now they have the same styling, people complain they are too similar

life is tough
these days it is all about complaining about this and that, you are damned if you do and damned if you dont.

I think LS needs to be even more radical than GS. Market is changing.
__________________
- 07 Lexus GS350 AWD
spwolf is offline  
Old 07-09-12, 04:37 PM
 
 
 
 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lexus officially launches in Vietnam =) Blackraven Car Chat 15 01-08-14 10:38 AM
New 3IS bodykit by JPN tuner LX alexlude IS - Third Generation 3 10-31-13 05:09 AM
Lexus LF-CC Paris Motor Show GFerg Car Chat 321 08-17-13 08:41 PM
Exposed carbon fiber LFA in Brazil 05RollaXRS LFA Model 11 10-11-12 12:24 PM
Lexus SC 430 to End Production, Japanese Special Edition Revealed (Cj) Car Chat 87 06-14-10 08:49 PM


Tags
2013, 2014, 30, 30th, 460, club, clublexus, debut, gen, july, lexus, ls, ls-f, lsf, shown, usf50, xf50

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:36 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info