Too close for comfort? 4th Gen GS & Hyundai Sonata
06-06-12, 07:42 AM
#62
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i agree the back on that concept looked WAY better.
06-06-12, 06:15 PM
#65
The A7 Sportsback is the more radical low roof line swoopy version of the A6 Sedan...
06-06-12, 06:47 PM
#66
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06-07-12, 07:59 AM
#67
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besides the more expensive exhaust treatment, i actually think the sonata 'rear' looks BETTER, maybe because the top left/right of the back flow more elegantly and softly into the sides whereas the GS looks 'thin' and more boxy there.
and what a joke that people on fb are saying hyundai copied lexus when the sonata came out years before.
i think lexus completely blew it on the exterior of the 4GS. but maybe they took a page from the prior 5 series - like this, it was no looker, but the dynamics were good and it still sold well.
plus no v8, missing features (no trunk closer in u.s., no power folding mirrors), continued extremely limited option selection and even supply... just makes the whole buying experience irritating for those who want what they want!
dynamically though, and on the interior, it's the best GS so far. butta face...
and what a joke that people on fb are saying hyundai copied lexus when the sonata came out years before.
i think lexus completely blew it on the exterior of the 4GS. but maybe they took a page from the prior 5 series - like this, it was no looker, but the dynamics were good and it still sold well.
plus no v8, missing features (no trunk closer in u.s., no power folding mirrors), continued extremely limited option selection and even supply... just makes the whole buying experience irritating for those who want what they want!
dynamically though, and on the interior, it's the best GS so far. butta face...
06-07-12, 12:44 PM
#68
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Regardless of what the rear end treatment looks like, it's all about the whole package of the vehicle. The rear end of the New GS is polarizing. You either like it or you don't. Overall, New GS, or GS F Sport for that matter is a pretty great package all around. I will have to say between this generation and Gen 2, the Gen 4 has the most BMW-like appeal of any of the GS generations to date. I consider the E60 5 series to be the benchmark in this class. But the new F10 went backwards where Lexus went a step above it.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
06-07-12, 02:19 PM
#70
Lexus Fanatic
Regardless of what the rear end treatment looks like, it's all about the whole package of the vehicle. The rear end of the New GS is polarizing. You either like it or you don't. Overall, New GS, or GS F Sport for that matter is a pretty great package all around. I will have to say between this generation and Gen 2, the Gen 4 has the most BMW-like appeal of any of the GS generations to date. I consider the E60 5 series to be the benchmark in this class. But the new F10 went backwards where Lexus went a step above it.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
06-07-12, 02:46 PM
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06-07-12, 04:34 PM
#72
Regardless of what the rear end treatment looks like, it's all about the whole package of the vehicle. The rear end of the New GS is polarizing. You either like it or you don't. Overall, New GS, or GS F Sport for that matter is a pretty great package all around. I will have to say between this generation and Gen 2, the Gen 4 has the most BMW-like appeal of any of the GS generations to date. I consider the E60 5 series to be the benchmark in this class. But the new F10 went backwards where Lexus went a step above it.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
Gen 1- Italian styling, sleek looks, weak powertrain.
Gen 2- The bad boy GS. (GS 400) was once called the fastest automatic luxury sedan in the world. Substantial inside and out.
Gen 3- Sexy looks, disconnected feel, weak V8 powertrain choices. GS 300 3GR-FSE should have never been offered for 06.
Gen 4- Knock out interior, polarizing exterior. Needs a V8 or GS F model. V6 2GR-FSE needs a tad more hp.
Of course this is all subjective. Gen 4 GS has a lot of potential. The driving dynamic and feel is one of the largest leaps from all the GS. Slap in a V8 , tweak the rocker mouldings & rear fascia, add fog lamps to the front (GS F Sport) and this maybe as epic if not greater than Gen 2 was.
06-07-12, 06:48 PM
#73
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^^^ 
amen.
lexus blew the big mo they had with the 2gs.
amen.lexus blew the big mo they had with the 2gs.
06-07-12, 06:51 PM
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I agree completely but that also is my problem with Lexus. I've said it before so I'll keep it short. Outside of 1 to 2, Lexus did absolutely nothing to entice current GS owners to move in succession with the lineup. GS400 owners had no reason to move on to the 430 unless you wanted a wood steering wheel. Nothing inspiring about the 3GS at all and now this 6 cylinder saber toothed monstrosity ( ok that was a bit much, lol). To go from the fastest sedan in the world to not even offering a V-8 currently is embarrassing and a waste of 1998. We love to give them a pass because of what we hope is coming down the line but I just don't see where this faith is coming from. I'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that a GS-F is coming but if they aren't planning to hit a home run again, then admit it and step aside. We've needed a tad more hp for 11 years now.
To YOU Lexus did nothing. Some of us moved from 2GS to 3GS and some 3GS have moved to 4GS. To ME the GS 450h was a logical move from my 2GS 400/430, its faster with better MPG. The 4GS 450h getting 31 MPG average and slightly slower is attractive to me. If I want a badass Lexus the IS F is around until the GS F. 1998 will never happen again, people need to stop bringing this historical point up. Its like saying "lets be first to go to the moon again" or "why can't we build the Pyramids again". We live in a world Porsche Turbos and GT-Rs costing 120k are doing 0-60 in under 3 seconds faster than exotics. You want a V-8 Lexus thats fast, buy an IS F like some GS owners have done. I think Mr. Johnson said what a lot of us were thinking "the IS F is kind of the spiritual successor to the GS 400". I do want to say some members have stated they bought a 4GS from a 2GS as well. So while the 4GS could use a high power
GS F is coming. Let's see who gets one or just complains about it.
Except the 3GS sold better than the 2GS some years. I think some of you vocal people simply have no interest in a new Lexus and don't drive a Lexus which is fine. However blanket statements about the brand are just those when CLEARLY plenty of us have bought the 3GS and 4GS. If its not for you, fine.
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06-07-12, 09:56 PM
#75
Except the 3GS sold better than the 2GS some years. I think some of you vocal people simply have no interest in a new Lexus and don't drive a Lexus which is fine. However blanket statements about the brand are just those when CLEARLY plenty of us have bought the 3GS and 4GS. If its not for you, fine.
what i am curious is, can someone provide annual sales numbers on the gs, 5, and e from 1998 all the way till last year. then we can really say something about 2gs and 3gs.
i am sure people buy the cars. but that's where it ends.