2014 Toyota RAV4: revealed at L.A. Auto Show
11-30-12, 09:06 AM
#256
Dude they completely dropped the V-6 option and there's no other optional engine in its place. No turbo-4, no turbodiesel, no nothing. My experience with the 2.5L/6AT is that the tranny is nice, but the engine is very buzzy and annoying sounding. People do actually use their RAV4s to do stuff like towing and hauling, so I'd say there's plenty to complain about. Even if I wanted to try another one, it's already a non-starter just for this reason alone.
You will probably get Turbo anyway... here in Europe, we have two diesels so we are OK.
I wonder if 2.5l is better now (insulated,etc)... My experience with old 4.3 2.0l AZ engine was that it sucks in Rav4... i would never replace my D4D for it, no matter what the price, i would simply not buy Rav4 :-).
But other than that option, new one seems to be miles ahead in every possible way and on rav4world and other forums people just complain - oh no, look at this button here it is awful, terrible... how come it is not 5k cheaper and gets 5 MPG more? :-).
11-30-12, 03:34 PM
#260
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Dude they completely dropped the V-6 option and there's no other optional engine in its place. No turbo-4, no turbodiesel, no nothing. My experience with the 2.5L/6AT is that the tranny is nice, but the engine is very buzzy and annoying sounding. People do actually use their RAV4s to do stuff like towing and hauling, so I'd say there's plenty to complain about. Even if I wanted to try another one, it's already a non-starter just for this reason alone.
11-30-12, 03:42 PM
#261
11-30-12, 03:48 PM
#262
I have the RAV4 with the 2.5L AR (with the old 4-speed), works fine...not buzzy at all and can haul quite a bit with no problems. Glad they have the 6-speed now, but curious why they didn't throw in the 2.7L (from the Highlander) if they were going to only offer it with 1 engine...strange.
p.s. i think i read somewhere that 6AT has 2 overdrive gears :-).
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11-30-12, 04:11 PM
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"The Midsize Highlander is available if you want more power" -Jim Lentz
There's the reason why there's no more V6
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...-show/1731983/
There's the reason why there's no more V6
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...-show/1731983/
11-30-12, 10:33 PM
#264
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So the new model is not leading on power, not leading on fuel efficiency, not leading on cargo space, and in many ways is a step sideways or backwards depending on how you look at it. Oh and somebody noticed that the front and rear bumpers are unpainted grey plastic even on the top spec Limited model that they showed coyly disguised by the grey color of the car, which is going to look hideous if you're buying one in a lighter color.
12-01-12, 01:13 AM
#266
So the new model is not leading on power, not leading on fuel efficiency, not leading on cargo space, and in many ways is a step sideways or backwards depending on how you look at it. Oh and somebody noticed that the front and rear bumpers are unpainted grey plastic even on the top spec Limited model that they showed coyly disguised by the grey color of the car, which is going to look hideous if you're buying one in a lighter color.
Well, it has promise at least, but I'd wait a couple of years for an engine upgrade option to show up and the bumpers to suddenly become painted, among other things.
Well, it has promise at least, but I'd wait a couple of years for an engine upgrade option to show up and the bumpers to suddenly become painted, among other things.
Looks very "econobox / base model" from the rear angle in a lighter body color. The CR-V and others hide their unpainted bumpers just enough to get away with it. The Rav4 does not succeed in that aspect.
12-01-12, 01:26 AM
#267
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12-01-12, 01:49 AM
#269
As usual, for some people, Toyota needs to be 30% better, 30% cheaper just to compete :-).
Oh no, lower part of the bumper is black, i will buy CRV!!!
Oho no, it has only 1 mpg more than CRV, I will buy CRV!!!
Oh no, it has no V6, I will buy CRV!!!
:-)))))))))
Oh no, lower part of the bumper is black, i will buy CRV!!!
Oho no, it has only 1 mpg more than CRV, I will buy CRV!!!
Oh no, it has no V6, I will buy CRV!!!
:-)))))))))
12-01-12, 02:26 AM
#270
Calm down there, spwolf. I didn't say I don't like the car. I just brought up a couple of things they could have done better. What the other cars do is add an extra "lip" or extension on the bottom of the tailgate or lower rear fenders to create the illusion that only half the rear bumper is unpainted, so the unpainted part looks like "extra cladding" on the bumper (suitable for a CUV) instead of looking like a cost-cutting measure. The CX-5 you shown demonstrates that perfectly. The CR-V does just enough of that that so that an unpainted bumper is not the first thing you think of when you look at the back. The new Rav4 doesn't even bother with the illusion and the tailgate and fenders drop down straight onto the unpainted bumper. It's almost like it's flaunting the big grey bumper.
The new Rav4 has a nice design inside and out. I just wish they would have "finished" it up a bit more. Do what they did with the 2009-2012 Rav4 Sport (compared to the base) and it would have looked fantastic. This Limited model in these pictures will likely be pushing CAD$37K. That's a lot of dough. For that kind of money, it shouldn't look like a base model, from any angle.
Despite all this, it's still under my consideration as my secondary car, if they do a proper job with the hybrid model drivetrain. That's the one I'm waiting for.
The new Rav4 has a nice design inside and out. I just wish they would have "finished" it up a bit more. Do what they did with the 2009-2012 Rav4 Sport (compared to the base) and it would have looked fantastic. This Limited model in these pictures will likely be pushing CAD$37K. That's a lot of dough. For that kind of money, it shouldn't look like a base model, from any angle.
Despite all this, it's still under my consideration as my secondary car, if they do a proper job with the hybrid model drivetrain. That's the one I'm waiting for.
Last edited by IceIridium; 12-01-12 at 02:31 AM.