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Old 04-09-12, 01:12 PM
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Nissan renews talk of sub-370Z sports car to take on Subaru BRZ



Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S got you excited? Well, it appears the new Toyobaru twins might be moving the needle at other automakers, too. According to the Sydney Morning Herald, the pair may have challenged Nissan to once again reinvestigate its on-again, off-again plans for an affordable, lightweight sports coupe of its own. Nissan's Chief Creative Officer, Shiro Nakamura, says his employer is looking at downsizing its Z sports car, though it isn't clear if that would mean the Japanese automaker would field two separate Z models or just replace the current 370Z with a smaller, less costly model.

"I much prefer smaller sports car," Nakamura tells the Herald. "It is the time to look at that. With 370Z, we still don't know next generation will have a larger or smaller engine."

If Nissan were to reduce the size of the 370's powerplant, it would be the first time that model's displacement has dropped. Since the Z gets its model designation from the size of its engine (3.7 liter V6), Nissan could have a problem marketing a smaller Z called the 300Z, since the last time a new 300Z was sold in the States was way back in 1986.

More likely would be the revival of long-forgotten nameplates like 200SX or 240SX. Either would almost certainly be direct competition for the Subaru and Scion rear-drive coupes.

Nakamura reminded fans that even if the 370Z loses some cubic inches, Nissan will still have the young but already legendary GT-R. When asked if Nissan would be willing to support three sports cars, Nakamura says, "If there is a market, we will do it."

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/09/n...on-subaru-brz/
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How about a rear wheel drive 240SX type car but throw in the 2.5L from the Sentra Spec V, call it the 250SX. Fit it with a nice 6 speed and call it a day. I really hope they dont tinker with the Z like that. It would be a very poor move (I own a 370z right now).
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240SX. That would be so sweet.
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resurrect the 240 name. Its going to be good. Nissan is great at designing sporty vehicles.
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Sub 370Z would be a welcome player to the 20K sport car range
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Interesting. Those of you who saw my recent BRZ static-review (I'm still awaiting the test-drive) will note that one of my comments was that the BRZ and FRS seem to be the best replacement for the original 240Z/260Z/280Z of the 1970s to have come along in some 40 years. Apparantly Nissan recognizes that, too....and that the current 370Z, like the 300ZX of the 1990s, is just too expensive, really in a different class.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Interesting. Those of you who saw my recent BRZ static-review (I'm still awaiting the test-drive) will note that one of my comments was that the BRZ and FRS seem to be the best replacement for the original 240Z/260Z/280Z of the 1970s to have come along in some 40 years. Apparantly Nissan recognizes that, too....and that the current 370Z, like the 300ZX of the 1990s, is just too expensive, really in a different class.
Agreed. Actually, looking at the marketplace, there aren't any real competitors for the new Suyota! A 240SX would be a great addition to the marketplace.
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I think it'll be great to have a new 240SX.

Bringing back the AE86 and 240SX...just have to reincarnate the RX7 as well
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Originally Posted by Rippaflow
How about a rear wheel drive 240SX type car but throw in the 2.5L from the Sentra Spec V, call it the 250SX. Fit it with a nice 6 speed and call it a day. I really hope they dont tinker with the Z like that. It would be a very poor move (I own a 370z right now).
Please no, that motor is TERRIBLE.

Just do it right, don't step back to an over-sized 1990s engine.

2.0L DI turbo 4cyl. Should get 35mpg+ and make 250hp easy. Could easily make the 23-25k price range of the BRZ and FRS.
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240sx revival FTW!!
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CAnt wait to D1 start using these. It would be cool to see the resurrected AE86 and the 240 go head to head in a drift/track battle.
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4 cyl Z? No thanks... I guess Nissan is on a mission to destroy Z heritage aren't they? New 240SX with turbo would be sweet.
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Well the reason we have a 350/370Z is b/c of parts sharing/cutting costs. Sharing the platform does make the sports car heavier but it enables it to live. Without the FM platform there would be no Z, Ghosn doesn't sign off on any money losing propositions.

This is the exact opposite philosophy of the FT86 triplets who the engineers refused to share platforms with anything and its built from the ground up, thus it having the lowest center of gravity of any car etc etc. Its not a car about profit and margins, its about we built it for enthusiasts.

If Nissan goes forward with this, which would be AWESOME (never understood why we never got the Sylvia) expect it to share Renault and maybe even Benz parts. Renault makes some amazing small sporty cars so it should work well.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
This is the exact opposite philosophy of the FT86 triplets who the engineers refused to share platforms with anything and its built from the ground up, thus it having the lowest center of gravity of any car etc etc. Its not a car about profit and margins, its about we built it for enthusiasts.
Nissan had the same philosophy except it lead to the GT-R. And they were well ahead of any of their Japanese competitors in offering a hard-core affordable sports car after the market for them died back in the 90's. I think they are well capable to building a sub-Z sports car in-house and a great one at that.

Also relevant:
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...7-c3feb4b619f1

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