I agree, MPLexus301. Even though I may leave Toyota/Lexus after 14 years, what I love even more is that companies like Lexus/Toyota are now also starting to push the envelope and step up their game, instead of growing more complacent. In fact this could even give me a reason to come back to the brand. Honda/Acura still hasn't caught on yet, but they may! We only win as car enthusiasts when companies keep innovating like this... keeps the competitors from resting on their brand name that is COMPLETELY different from the products they use to put out in the late 90's / early 2000's.
2013 Hyundai Santa Fe goes on big diet, unveils five and seven-passenger models
2013 Hyundai Santa Fe goes on big diet, unveils five and seven-passenger models
TWO ALL-NEW 2013 HYUNDAI SANTA FE MODELS MAKE WORLD DEBUTS AT 2012 NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW
All-New Santa Fe Lineup Defies the Status Quo and Reinvents the CUV Landscape with "Fluidic Sculpture" Design, Sophisticated Engineering and Efficient Powertrains
First Non-Luxury CUV with Torque-Vectoring Cornering Control and Driver Selectable Steering for Outstanding Driving Dynamics
NEW YORK, April 4, 2012– Designed to delight shoppers and defy convention, two all-new 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe models make their world debut today at the 2012 New York International Auto Show. The third-generation Santa Fe crossover family introduces the two-row, five-passenger Santa Fe Sport and the long wheelbase (LWB) three-row, seven-passenger model called Santa Fe. The all-new Santa Fe family showcases the brand's cutting-edge capabilities through "Fluidic Sculpture" design, impressive fuel economy and a host of features to delight drivers and passengers with high expectations for functionality and comfort. The all-new 2013 Santa Fe Sport will go on-sale late this summer, with the larger Santa Fe introduced to dealers in January 2013.
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE 2013 SANTA FE LINEUP
First non-luxury CUV Torque Vectoring Cornering Control (TVCC) combines with Driver Selectable
Steering Mode (DSSM) for outstanding CUV driving dynamics
All-new crossover architecture developed for families
Third-generation crossover introduces two-row, five-passenger Santa Fe Sport, Santa Fe Sport 2.0T and larger three-row, seven-passenger LWB Santa Fe
"Fluidic Sculpture" exterior design
All four-cylinder engine lineup for the Santa Fe Sport
Theta II 2.4-liter Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI) engine
190 horsepower (estimated) with improved fuel economy and acceleration
Highest highway fuel economy (33 mpg estimated) of any CUV/SUV equipped with an automatic transmission
High-output Theta II 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI engine
264 horsepower (estimated) with excellent fuel economy and best-in-class power-to-weight ratio
Highway fuel economy estimated at 31 mpg (FWD A/T)
In-house six-speed automatic transmission
Seven standard airbags
Heated rear seats and heated steering wheel
Power driver and front passenger seats
Sliding second row seating with 40:20:40 folding seat back and cargo area release
Standard Blue Link – safety, service and infotainment telematics system
Third generation navigation and audio multimedia systems with an available eight-inch display
Intelligent Active All-Wheel Drive
HIGHLIGHTS UNIQUE TO THE 2013 LWB SANTA FE
Lambda II 3.3-liter GDI V6 engine with 290 horsepower powers LWB Santa Fe
LWB Santa Fe is the only midsize CUV with a standard direct injection V6 engine
Blind spot detection (LWB Santa Fe only)
The all-new Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe are the final pieces in Hyundai's 7/11 product initiative (seven new or redesigned models in 11 months in the 2012 calendar year). The first three vehicles in the initiative were Azera, Veloster Turbo and refreshed Genesis Coupe. The fourth and fifth vehicles were Elantra GT and Elantra Coupe. All feature outstanding fuel economy, significant lightweighting actions, and Hyundai's signature "Fluidic Sculpture" design language.
NO LINES STANDING STILL
The "Fluidic Sculpture" exterior of the Santa Fe crossover family invokes the impression of irrepressible motion through a new design concept called Storm Edge, which captures the strong and dynamic images created by nature during the formation of a storm. To create the illusion of constant motion, Hyundai designers use a three-bar hexagonal front grille, LED accents, low stance, rising beltline, black trimmed optional roof rails and wraparound taillights. These cues let people know immediately that Santa Fe is a Hyundai. Design elements also include standard chrome grille and door handle accents, bodycolor mirrors, rear spoiler, aggressive exhaust outlets as well as lower bumper, wheel arches and door trim in contrasting paints. In addition, 19-inch wheels are standard on Santa Fe Sport 2.0T.
Hyundai designers crafted Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe together, with the signature differentiating element being the side view daylight opening (side window shape) - the larger Santa Fe features a shape that highlights the increased passenger and cargo room behind the third row seat. Santa Fe also has its own bodyside character lines from the B-pillar back, grille design, 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels, dual exhaust tips and a flush-mounted tow hitch design.
Both Santa Fe models feature the same flowing interior look, designed for passenger functionality and comfort. From the heated rear seats and available eight-way power driver seat, to a standard 40:20:40 folding rear seat back, both boast flexibility and a pleasant cabin for all. Also new for 2013 – and standard on all Santa Fe models with cloth seating – is a YES Essentials seat fabric treatment that provides soil-resistant, anti-odor and anti-static properties for added longevity and livability. Special care and attention went into other interior details, such as an optional panoramic sunroof, which allows more natural light into the cabin, and premium window switch trim. Available on 2.4-liter models and standard on Turbo and LWB models, is a push-button starter with proximity key and a Supervision Cluster with TFT LCD screen. A heated steering wheel and sliding second row seats are optional first-class touches on Santa Fe Sport and Santa Fe Sport 2.0T. The heated steering wheel is also optional on the LWB Santa Fe.
The three-row Santa Fe increases second-row legroom by 1.9 inches and cargo capacity 5.6 cubic feet and houses second-row HVAC controls and vents to increase family comfort, while also offering a standard 50:50 split folding third-row bench seat with 31.5 inches of legroom.
CHOICE OF THREE POWERFUL, FUEL EFFICIENT ENGINES
Santa Fe Sport buyers have the choice of a 2.4-liter Gasoline Direct Engine (GDI) engine or a turbocharged 2.0-liter GDI engine. Both engines have been well tested in the Hyundai Sonata and provide more than enough power for city or highway driving and have the ability to tow up to 3,500 pounds. With 190 horsepower and 181 lb-ft of torque (estimated), Santa Fe Sport 2.4 still manages outstanding fuel economy of 23 city and 33 highway (estimated). This powertrain truly combines power and fuel efficiency with refined driving dynamics. The higher output 2.0-liter turbocharged engine found under the hood of Santa Fe Sport 2.0T increases horsepower to 264 (estimated), while also delivering excellent fuel economy. The top-of-line LWB Santa Fe is powered by the highly acclaimed 3.3-liter V6 engine, which is also found in the Hyundai Azera.
The Theta II GDI 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine with a GDI fuel delivery system contributes to improved fuel efficiency and lower emissions in Santa Fe Sport. This shorter, more direct path of fuel delivery, allows for greater control of the fuel mixture at the optimum moment, thus improving efficiency. The fuel is injected by a camshaft-driven, high pressure pump that operates at pressures up to 2,175 psi. Direct injection also utilizes a higher-than-normal 11.3 compression ratio for increased power. When compared to naturally-aspirated engines, this power plant delivers best-in-class four-cylinder horsepower, best-in-class torque and best-in-class power-to-weight ratio. The high-tech, all-aluminum, 16-valve engine also features Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (DCVVT) and a Variable Induction System (VIS) for better engine breathing.
The new Santa Fe Sport 2.0T is the first Hyundai crossover to have both GDI technology and a turbocharger. This option provides more horsepower than many of the V6 competitors, yet delivers gas mileage similar to competitive four-cylinder models.
The 2.0-liter turbocharged GDI four-cylinder engine in the 2013 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T produces 264 horsepower and 269 lb-ft of torque with regular fuel. Hyundai's 2.0-liter Theta turbocharged engine features a twin-scroll turbocharger that when combined with the GDI system, results in instantaneous power delivery. The Ford Edge, like the Santa Fe Sport 2.0T, uses a turbocharged GDI four-cylinder engine. However, the Santa Fe Sport 2.0T has upped the ante with 26 more horsepower, a better power-to-weight ratio and higher fuel economy numbers.
SANTA FE SPORT 2.0T VERSUS FORD EDGE SE 2.0T
Twin-scroll turbocharger designs have two exhaust gas inlets that are divided by split walls inside the turbine housing with both gas passages controlled by a waste-gate. A twin-scroll turbo recovers even more energy from the exhaust than a single-scroll turbocharger, thanks to a divided manifold. The twin-scroll design separates the cylinders whose exhaust gas pulses interfere with each other, resulting in improved pressure distribution in the exhaust ports and a more efficient delivery of exhaust gas energy to the turbocharger's turbine.
For example, at the start of the intake stroke of cylinder one and when both the intake and exhaust valves are open (valve overlap period), cylinder three already begins its exhaust stroke with an open exhaust valve. If the exhaust passages of cylinder one and three were connected, the exhaust gas pulse from cylinder three would increase the back pressure of cylinder one - reducing the induction of fresh air and increasing the amount of hot residual gases inside the cylinder. However, with the twin-scroll turbocharger setup, this interference is minimized. The result of this superior scavenging effect from a twin-scroll design leads to several advantages over the traditional, single-scroll turbocharging systems, including:
Better pressure distribution in the exhaust ports
More efficient delivery of exhaust gas energy to the turbocharger's turbine
Greater valve overlap for improved quality/quantity of air charge entering each cylinder
Ensures each cylinder is packed with a denser and purer air charge
Improved combustion efficiency
Low engine-speed efficiency
Kinetic exhaust gas energy is not wasted or trapped
Cooler cylinder temperatures
Lower exhaust temperatures
Leaner air/fuel ratio
Santa Fe Sport 2.0T's twin-scroll turbo has superior handling of exhaust gas separation at the turbine, leading to improved low-end torque and faster transient torque response.
Two key features of Hyundai's twin-scroll turbocharger setup are as follows:
The stainless steel exhaust manifold and the twin-scroll turbine housing are cast in a patent-pending one-piece design
The waste-gate for the turbocharger uses a motor-driven electrical controller instead of being mechanically controlled
Thanks to the integrated stainless-steel turbine housing with exhaust manifold, not only is the weight and cost of the casting dramatically reduced, but the durability of the turbine housing also improves. In addition, heat energy recovery and turbo efficiency significantly improve based on the fact that a traditional two-piece design effectively insulates some of the heat energy at the joint/gasket area.
By adapting the motor-driven electrical waste-gate, the boost pressure is precisely controlled. The back pressure is reduced when turbo boost is not necessary by opening the waste-gate, which improves fuel efficiency. During cold starts, the waste-gate remains open, which results in faster catalyst light-off for reduced exhaust emissions.
Direct injection also utilizes a 9.5 compression ratio in this engine, while achieving a best-in-class 133 horsepower-per-liter.
Shoppers looking for a V6 engine will find that the long wheelbase Santa Fe suits their needs in terms of drivability and fuel economy. The Santa Fe's Lambda II 3.3-liter GDI also has a high-pressure direct injection system (over 2,200 psi), which dramatically increases power and torque, while reducing fuel consumption and emissions. This system eliminates the need for a large displacement V6 engine and increases the compression ratio for greater thermal efficiency and output. Santa Fe's V6 is perfect for towing small boats or weekend toys.
SIX-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
All the engines are mated to Hyundai's six-speed automatic transmission with SHIFTRONIC® manual control. This transmission offers smooth shifts and a wide ratio spread that suits the engine's characteristics. An automatic transmission warmer is included to keep the transmission oil at its optimal temperature, which improves real-world fuel economy.
Additionally, all models have an Active ECO System that modifies engine and transmission control to smooth out throttle response and increase real-world fuel economy.
DO ANYTHING CAPABILITY WITH Torque Vectoring Cornering Control
Santa Fe Sport, Santa Fe Sport 2.0T and the LWB Santa Fe customers will feel the benefits of the optional intelligent active All-Wheel-Drive (AWD) system and TVCC, which cooperatively controls torque and braking in conjunction with the Vehicle Stability Management System. This system can anticipate traction requirements and deliver additional stability through braking via continuous monitoring of driving conditions compared with other AWD systems, which can only react to conditions after they occur. All AWD Santa Fes access an intelligent control unit that continuously analyzes data from the vehicle controller, and through a multi-clutch plate distributes torque to any single wheel at a time. The coupling system is fully controllable via an electro-hydraulic actuation system. Braking force can also be sent to any single wheel at a time via the software. These processes are known as torque vectoring and torque braking. All this analysis is completely transparent to the driver.
Drivers of the AWD Santa Fe realize the following advantages:
Improved lateral stability while cornering
Removal of unintended over- and under-steer by reducing unwanted traction to the front and rear axle
High thermal capacity, which helps prevent overheating during hill climbs and trailer towing
In addition, greater efficiency is achieved through the intelligent control electronics that provide the torque needed for enhanced traction in a variety of driving situations. As a result, lower fuel consumption and reduced emissions are achieved. The electronic components are also optimally sized for minimal energy usage. This intelligent system allows for even more driver control.
The 2013 Santa Fe models feature Hyundai's Hillstart Assist Control (HAC) and Downhill Brake Control (DBC) to maximize control on steep hills. HAC minimizes rolling backwards on steep ascents while DBC helps the driver maintain vehicle control and speed on steep downhill descents. By selecting the DBC switch, the Hydro-Electronic Control unit manages the wheel speed sensors, steering angle sensor and acceleration sensor to maintain control and speed on steep declines without having to use the brake.
FUN-TO-DRIVE CUV DRIVING DYNAMICS
For enhanced ride performance, Santa Fe Sport, Santa Fe Sport 2.0T and the three-row Santa Fe employ a compact and light MacPherson strut front suspension and a fully independent multi-link rear suspension. Santa Fe Sport rides on 17-inch wheels and P235/65 R17 tires. Santa Fe Sport 2.0T sits on 19-inch wheels with P235/55R19 lower profile tires. The Turbo also has Mando (DFD) shock absorbers for more precise control. The front suspension has a 26.5 mm hollow stabilizer bar to save weight.The rear suspension uses a 21 mm solid stabilizer bar in the front wheel drive and 19 mm solid stabilizer bar in the all-wheel drive Santa Fe Sport. The larger Santa Fe sits on 18- or 19-inch wheels.
Behind the wheel, drivers benefit from Hyundai's all-new Driver Selectable Steering Mode, with three operating modes – Comfort, Normal and Sport. This innovative system allows drivers to adapt Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe's steering characteristics to varying driving preferences and road conditions. Comfort mode is ideal for city and parking environments, offering the greatest ease of steering with a 10 percent decrease in steering effort from Normal mode. Normal mode is ideal for a mix of driving conditions. Meanwhile, Sport Mode is optimized for higher-speed freeways or winding roads and increases steering effort by 10 percent from Normal mode. The Driver Selectable Steering Mode not only adjusts power assistance levels in each mode, but also adjusts on-center build-up feel and steering build-up curves throughout the steering range, for a very natural and progressive feel. Steering damping characteristics, active return and friction levels have also been optimized in Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe. Even more impressive is the fact that Hyundai engineers have successfully tuned Santa Fe Sport's 35.76 ft. turning circle for easy parking and U-turns, despite a slightly longer wheelbase compared to the previous generation Santa Fe.
SANTA FE CABIN SPACE ADVANTAGE
The sleek design of Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe, combined with Hyundai's expertise in interior engineering, delivers a great presence on the road while improving functionality and convenience. The spacious cabin has more shoulder room than the previous generation and the Toyota RAV4 and Ford Edge. Three-row, seven-passenger Santa Fe also has more second row leg room than Nissan Murano, Toyota Highlander and the full-size Chevrolet Traverse. Seating utility is also improved due to a standard 40:20:40 folding rear seat back. This seat back is perfect for seating five passengers comfortably or accommodating four passengers, plus long items like skis, golf clubs, snowboards or surfboards. Fold down two seats to seat three people and hold larger packages or fold all rear seats to maximize cargo space. Customers will also discover Santa Fe Sport has more cargo volume than Chevrolet Equinox and Ford Edge. The LWB Santa Fe also features a power liftgate for added convenience.
Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe include a number of convenient, standard stowage and storage features, including an overhead console sunglass holder, two front and two rear seat cupholders, door bottle holders, enlarged central storage console, front storage bin, front seat- back pockets and generous under-floor cargo storage.
Dual-zone climate controls ensure a comfortable environment for all occupants during long journeys. The dual-zone climate controls also incorporate an automatic defogging system, which detects humidity levels using a sensor and removes it from the windshield. Another premium feature is a CleanAir Ionizer that automatically cleans the air when the heater or air conditioner is running.
Santa Fe Sport rides on a 106.3-inch wheelbase, with an overall length of 184.6 inches, height of 66.1 inches and width of 74.0 inches. The larger Santa Fe rides on a 110.2-inch wheelbase, which is 3.9 inches longer than the Santa Fe Sport's wheelbase. Its overall length is 193.1 inches compared with Santa Fe Sport's length of 184.6 inches. The 74.2-inch width is slightly wider than Santa Fe Sport. The LWB Santa Fe's overall height is 66.5 inches, which is 0.4 inches higher than Santa Fe Sport.
Ultimately, the long wheelbase for both models allows for compact crossover efficiency with mid-size crossover comfort. An example of this is found in the long second row seat track, delivering more second row legroom. The three-row Santa Fe's cargo volume is 41.0 cubic feet.
IMPROVED RIGIDITY AND ULTRA-HIGH STRENGTH TENSILE STEEL
The all-new architecture incorporates a new design that not only improves distortion rigidity by 16 percent, it also incorporates a 30-percent increase in the use of ultra high-strength-tensile steel to improve collision energy management. High-strength steel also allows the suspension to work optimally and reduces weight. Ultra-high strength tensile sheet metal has also been applied to the outer door panels for the first time in the company's history. In addition, anti-corrosion steel was applied to 70 percent of outer frame and floor structure.
New hot stamping and roll forming methods have also been applied to impact members, which provide added strength, reduces the number of body parts and makes the architecture lighter. The amount of structural adhesives has also been increased significantly for improved body rigidity, crashworthiness and durability.
WORLD-CLASS WEIGHT EFFICIENCY
World-class weight efficiency is an essential part of all Hyundai models and the new Santa Fe models hit their target. The new two-row, five-passenger 2013 Santa Fe Sport 2.4L FWD sheds a remarkable 266 pounds compared to the previous generation 2012 Santa Fe four-cylinder, while the Santa Fe Sport 2.0T cuts a whopping 300 pounds when compared to the 2012 Santa Fe V6 FWD it replaces. These reductions are the largest weight losses from generation to generation for any vehicle in Hyundai Motor Company's history, and demonstrate a key enabler of Hyundai's industry-leading fuel efficiency status.
Santa Fe Sport 2.4L FWD is also 539 pounds lighter than the Ford Edge and 318 pounds lighter than the Chevrolet Equinox. Even compared to premium brand vehicles like the 2012 Audi Q5 2.0 TFSI Quattro, which uses significant amounts of aluminum and magnesium in its architecture for weight savings, the 2013 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T AWD tips the scales 351 pounds lighter. Taking weight out of vehicles pays dividends in fuel economy and performance. This priority on weight efficiency allows Santa Fe Sport and the three-row Santa Fe to deliver carlike handling, outstanding acceleration and fuel efficiency. Curb weight for a FWD three-row Santa Fe is 3,861 pounds, with AWD models weighing 4,004 pounds.
NEW ADVANCED STANDARD SAFETY TECHNOLOGIES: PART OF HYUNDAI'S ASSURANCE COMMITMENT
The LWB three-row Santa Fe offers Hyundai's first Blindspot Detection System (BDS). This system identifies when a vehicle enters the defined blindspot and provides a warning that a vehicle is approaching.
All FWD models have a standard Vehicle Stability Management (VSM) system, which optimally manages Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and the Motor-Driven electric Power Steering (MDPS). VSM works to control two effects. The first is when a driver accelerates or brakes on a split-mu surface (slippery on one side, dry pavement on the other) and the vehicle wants to pull in one direction. VSM detects this condition and sends a signal to the MDPS to apply steering assist. VSM counters the pull and automatically provides eight Newton meters of counter-steering. VSM reacts the same way during sudden lane changes or fast cornering. AWD drive models integrate torque and brake vectoring.
Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe feature seven airbags, including side curtain airbags and a driver's knee airbag. All Santa Fe trims have rollover sensors for the side curtain airbags. When the sensors detect a potential rollover, the control module triggers the head-curtain side airbags and safety belt pre-tensioners to help protect passengers against serious injury.
Santa Fe Sport and LWB Santa Fe also feature a state-of-the-art braking package. The package includes four-wheel disc brakes (12.6 inch front and 11.9 inch rear), an Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) including Brake Assist providing maximum braking force when a panic stop is detected, and Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) to automatically adjust the braking force to front and rear axles based on vehicle loading conditions. Additionally, Santa Fe Sport and the longer Santa Fe offer impressive passive safety features including a Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children (LATCH) system for children's seats and three-point seatbelts for all positions.
THIRD-GENERATION NAVIGATION AND AUDIO TECHNOLOGY
All Santa Fe models offer an optional multifunction eight-inch touch-screen display with navigation. This third-generation display features a simpler user interface, enhanced voice recognition commands and improved navigation screens. The system is more intuitive to use for commonly used tasks. Simple pop up messages now appear to help pair a phone. The voice recognition software understands street addresses and cities all in one sentence. The route screens display speed limits and details the next three maneuvers. One or two button pushes now complete most functions.
HD Radio technology is also integrated into all Santa Fe displays. An HD Radio icon on the display appears next to the channel frequency to notify the user this station is broadcasting in HD.
All models are available with four audio systems. Standard is an AM/FM/Satellite Radio/CD/MP3 audio system with six-speakers and iPod®/USB/auxiliary input jacks. The upgrade audio system boasts a 4.3-inch full color LCD screen with HD Radio and rear view camera. The third system consists of the Gen 3.0 Navigation unit with Dimension audio with 10 speakers. Finally, the premium navigation system includes an Infinity 550-watt, Logic 7 audio system with 12 speakers, including an eight-inch subwoofer and external amplifier is available. A XM Satellite Radio interface is integrated into each head unit and features channel logos and XM Data services, such as XM NavWeather®, XM Stock Ticker and XM Sports Ticker. A Bluetooth hands-free phone system with voice recognition, address book download and audio streaming is also standard. Both navigation systems integrate rear-view camera output. Blue Link™ turn-by-turn navigation is standard on all Santa Fe models.
HYUNDAI BLUE LINK
Blue Link combines safety, service and infotainment features to simplify owners' lives and reduce distracted driving. Blue Link brings seamless connectivity directly into the car with technology like voice text messaging, POI web search download, turn-by-turn navigation, and monthly vehicle reporting. Hyundai Blue Link telematics is standard on all Santa Fe models with up to a one-year complimentary trial period. Blue Link can be easily accessed from the buttons on the rearview mirror, the web and via a smart phone. Blue Link is offered in three packages: Assurance, Essentials and Guidance.
Blue Link Assurance package:
Automatic Collision Notification (ACN) and Assistance
SOS Emergency Assistance
Enhanced Roadside Assistance
Blue Link Essentials package:
Remote Door Lock/Unlock
Remote Horn and Lights
Remote Engine Start
Voice Text Messaging
Automated Diagnostic Trouble Code
Web Vehicle Diagnostics
Turn-by-Turn Navigation Service
POI Search by advanced voice recognition system
POI Web Search and Download
Daily Route Guidance with Traffic Condition
Gas Station Locations and Gas Prices
I can't quite describe what I think of this; it looks both a bit overstyled and a bit understated, if that makes any sense .
Understated compared to some of the other new Hyundai designs, but overstyled in the sense that personally there are too many "in your face" styling elements. I guess my main issue is that it lacks elegance.
It's definitely aggressive though. The torque vectoring is quite a surprise, and great to see that offered.
The 4 cylinder once again seems to have overrated EPA ratings, as this is now a Hyundai/Kia trend. I can't see this achieving those numbers in real world conditions.
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lmfao...so the RDX loses SH AWD and this Hyundai gains it? Not a fan of the looks but gotdamn the specs are impressive on paper.
Hyundai hasn't really let off the gas yet with seemingly every redesign.
yup, as you continue to pile on acura (with much justification if not quite so much venom ) hyundai's progress won't only affect acura, but other brands too. why would anyone buy a mazda cx-7/9 vs. this? the cr-v is well executed/refined but will find pressure against this. obviously the current rav-4 is toast, and this even threatens the highlander.
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Haha bik..........but imho the CX9 is still superb even at this stage of its life cycle. That Cyclone 3.7 liter V6 is a very strong engine and not too be underestimated......and dynamics is surprisingly spot-on for Mazda SUV.
It's just that the Santa Fe featured here is newer so yeah, it's more of a newer > older kinda thing here.
HOLY ****!!! I can't believe none you guys asked about it cause.......
Hang on, since they said 7 seater, does that mean they're killing the Veracruz???