spwolf

nah, cvt is standard, (prius doesnt have cvt at all), and 1.33l engine is standard/shared.

here you go:

BNR34

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All electric hybrids produce by Toyota Motor Company is running on CVT, from the Prius C to the LS600hL

Mikeyy

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great review! my girlfriend's mom has a smart fortwo and that car is just horrible, from the harsh shifting transmission to the the cheap interior, the whole car just feels cheap, not like a german car at all.
I actually got a chance to drive the iQ at work when they delivered them to the dealer. The inside is suprising big and roomy, we were actually able to fit 4 people in the car, ranging anywhere from 5'2' to 5'6' with room to spare.

Overall those the car just feels really solid, but for $16k starting, i think most people would be looking into corollas or even yaris

LexFather

Thanks...I read that in EVO a long time ago so glad to see it again.

BNR34

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Thanks for your concurrence

lamar411

Thanks for the review But how many people who don't live in the city who choose this over the larger, similarly priced Corolla?

spwolf

and every car has 4 tires so they are all the same :-).

Toyota HSD uses PowerSplitDevice (PSD) that behaves similar to CVT but is not your classic CVT at all. It is actually a lot simpler than CVT, and integrates two electric motors inside.

Toyota S-CVT (Super CVT), is belt and cone cvt transmission with steel ribbed belt.

They are as different as MT and AT transmissions. But "CVT" is a lot easier to explain than the actual difference.

BNR34

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All the folks who love novelty, unique, out of the ordinary stuff. They buy it because it is different, not because it fit their needs.

That's why Smart sold a bunch of cars in the 1st year, now their sales volume is zero.

BNR34

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You are the master of nitpicking, BRAVO!!

So do you give it a different name on every similar thing in life?

So when Toyota call it a CVT, you would give it a different name just because it is a hair different then other CVT?

BNR34

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So when you talk to people, what do you call the tranny on the Prius or CT200, HS250......etc?

You call it HSD, PSD, then you actually explain to people what they means? ..............oh it is actually not your typical CVT, it is this that and this? And everyone you talk to is like huh

That's why Toyota call it CVT so people understand it. And like you said, it behaves similar to CVT, that's what most people care like myself. Thanks though, now I know why the CVT on the Prius don't feels like a typical CVT.

Nextourer

He's telling the truth though. It's not the same CVT as the one in the Prius. Technically, Toyota labels it as an eCVT (the Power Split Device that is). The Prius uses a planetary gearset CVT. The iQ uses a cone & belt.

I drove the iQ and mimic your impressions. It feels more normal than the smart. The headlights were good and reasonably powerful and yes the turning radius was phenomenal.

However, after driving a Prius for 7 years, I didn't like this CVT. It has the same rubberbanding effect that other people have said about CVTs. I drove the B200 (had it as a courtesy car when my smart fortwo was in for repair, ha!) and it had the same rubberbanding effect but to a much, much lesser degree.

I found that leaving the iQ in "S" was a little better but then the transmission leaves the engine running at 2,000rpm rather than idle which makes for a little noiser ride.

BNR34

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I understand that and I am not saying he is wrong. It is a different types of CVT but is still a CVT. He was saying the eCVT is not a CVT at all, so I was just asking him if Toyota call it a CVT, is he going to call it a different name because it is not a cone and belt? Then he is going to explain to everyone why he doesn't call it a CVT when Toyota does?

Is like all the latest automated manual tranny on the market now, they don't have a torque converter, but we all still call it a auto tranny because it is in fact automatic in operation. That how people understand it.

Nextourer

I see.

Yeah I'm not too happy with the way the media spins the transmission labels. There's a difference between two cars with paddle shifters if one's a semi-automatic and the other is an automated manual. <sigh>. But I guess paddle shifters are all the rage (and marketing wants it). Although I must admit, it was pretty much (and useful) on the smart fortwo for smoothing out gear changes.

mmarshall

I got to test-drive an IQ yesterday, at the same dealership where I reviewed the xB (I had already done an iQ static-review. I found the power-level quite low, the CVT transmission with annoying motorboating/rubber-banding characteristics, the handling quite good with minimal of body-roll, the wind-noise well-controlled, and the steering very quick. The ride was grainy/choppy on rough surfaces, there was some small fore/aft pitching from the short wheelbase, a fair amount of road-noise, and the brakes were OK.

caddyowner

I'm at a loss as to why the IQ and Smart aren't available with manual transmissions in this country. Half the fun of driving a small car is rowing through the gears to keep the engine spinning at the top of its torque curve.