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Old 04-05-12, 12:37 PM
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for a mid-range car, i'm blown away.
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This car Really makes me interested in what Nissan will pull off for the next gen Max.
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
The Sonata is going to end up having among the worst fuel economy in the midsize segment.
The gas-engine Passat has the worst fuel economy in the midsize segment... and it is all-new for 2012.
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As nice as the new Altima is, if I'm buying a 2013 sedan in this segment (and I actually may be), then I'm still drawn to the Camry - even with its lower MPG rating. Most Toyota's are under-rated by the EPA anyway.

The Camry's quality (reliability) is always better. The Camry's interior is a better. I just still could pull the trigger on a Nissan purchase.

Then there's the stunning 2013 Fusion. I'd probably choose this over the Altima as well. Fuel efficiency only falls short 1 mpg. Probably the best looking car in the class.

This is how I would personally order the segment (2013 field):

1- Camry
2 - Fusion
3 - Altima
4 - Optima
5 - Sonata
6 - Malibu
7 - Accord
8 - Mazda 6
9 - Passat

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
hmm... i think this is the only mention of 'hate' in this thread.



this thread is not about acura. please knock it off.
So you and others can make comparisons in every thread about Camry/Hyundai/Equus/GS etc etc but I can't say this blows away the RLX in design?

Interesting. My apologies for saying one car looks better than the other.

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Originally Posted by scgt652
The gas-engine Passat has the worst fuel economy in the midsize segment... and it is all-new for 2012.
are you talking about the 2.5L 5 cylinder? its old and on its last legs. Believe its replacement is a 1.8-2.0L turbo 4 relatively soon
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
are you talking about the 2.5L 5 cylinder? its old and on its last legs. Believe its replacement is a 1.8-2.0L turbo 4 relatively soon
Yes, I was referring to the crappy 2.5. Glad to hear that VW has a replacement on the way.
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I dunno not really a fan of the read end, but when i test drove the outgoing model, i was pretty impressed. Not a bad car at all.
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This looks way better than the current one. I can't stand the current Altima.
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Old 04-06-12, 10:22 PM
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Looks better than the current one , but I don't find it that exciting , to me it's just another newly redesigned midsize vehichle like how the Camry is nothing to go crazy about except the MPG!
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
are you talking about the 2.5L 5 cylinder? its old and on its last legs. Believe its replacement is a 1.8-2.0L turbo 4 relatively soon
they are not replacing it with 1.8l turbo (which is also now older engine :P), because of the costs. It is not an technology thing.... more like Yaris having old 1.5l 4AT powertrain, despite them having better engines.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
they are not replacing it with 1.8l turbo (which is also now older engine :P), because of the costs. It is not an technology thing.... more like Yaris having old 1.5l 4AT powertrain, despite them having better engines.
not a old one, but rather a new downsized version supposedly being worked on to replace the aging 5 cylinder across the line

Volkswagen to Replace Inline-Five with 1.8-Liter Turbo Four in the U.S.


Volkswagen will soon drop its naturally aspirated five-cylinder engine from its U.S. lineup and replace it with a turbocharged 1.8-liter four, two sources at the company have told us.

The new engine is a 1.8-liter version of the 2.0-liter turbo four VW offers in the GTI, GLI, and Tiguan—the engine family is EA888, if you’re the type that finds internal reference numbers of interest. In most of the 1.8′s European applications, it makes 158 hp and 185 lb-ft of torque. We don’t expect those numbers to change much when it arrives in the U.S., where it should become the workhorse engine for the Passat, Jetta, Golf, and Beetle. (It’s worth noting, too, that this new 1.8-liter turbo four is completely unrelated to the old “1.8T” engine that VW and Audi used across their lines during the 1990s and 2000s.)

The decision is at least partly based on fuel economy. A manual-transmission Jetta with the 2.5-liter five is rated by the EPA at 23 mpg city/33 highway. Compare that with the Jetta GLI, which is essentially the same car (save for the rear suspension) but uses the 2.0-liter turbo four: It is rated for 22/33 mpg. The installation of a smaller, less-powerful version of that 2.0-liter engine should bump the regular Jetta’s EPA figures enough to appeal to consumers seeing ads for 40-mpg Chevy Cruzes, Ford Focuses, and Hyundai Elantras.

The other large factor for switching to the 1.8 turbo is VW’s desire to simplify the manufacturing and service processes for its engines. As a close relative of the 2.0-liter, it can be built in the same factories, shipped in the same containers, installed with the same tooling, and maintained with the same equipment.

The 2.5-liter inline-five arrived in the U.S. in the previous-generation Jetta, which went on sale in 2005. It initially offered 150 hp, a number exceeded by many inline-fours from other automakers, and was subsequently upgraded to 170 hp. While offering a five-banger was certainly a rarity among automakers (with Volvo and Chevrolet also offering the layout here), sales of vehicles that offered the engine seem to have been achieved in spite of it, rather than because customers found it appealing in any way. The five was never particularly offensive, but we also can’t say we’ll miss it much.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/volkswa...ur-in-the-u-s/
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Default Hyundai Sonata caused Nissan to reassess 2013 Altima development

Hyundai Sonata caused Nissan to reassess 2013 Altima development



When Hyundai rolled out their outrageously styled Sonata three years ago, car buyers took notice. It's eye-catching exterior styling, well-appointed interior and affordable price was just what a lot of family sedan buyers wanted.

Few will admit it, but carmakers sat up and paid attention, too. However, Andy Palmer, Nissan executive vice president for global planning, doesn't mind telling the world that his company certainly saw the significance of the midsize Korean sedan. So much so that they briefly halted design work on the 2013 Altima.

"We even delayed development by a short amount just to check that the (new Altima's) proportions were right, the (package) was right (and that) the product overall was right," Palmer tells Ward's Auto. "I'd say they (Hyundai) are our major point of reference."

But with the Altima as the second-best selling car in its segment, Nissan is focusing not on the Sonata, but on Toyota and the No. 1 best seller: Camry.

"If you keep coming with better cars and better communications, telling better stories, over a period of time," Palmer says. "I guarantee you'll be talking about Toyota and Nissan."

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/27/h...a-development/
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Old 04-27-12, 05:26 PM
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Not even "Honda" muttered under their breath hah
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Old 04-27-12, 05:50 PM
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Must be an article written by Hyundai.

Omg, a competitor looked at the competition. How is this news?

Toyota said their biggest threat was Hyundai years ago. Again how is this news?

Geezus can the fluff end?
 


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