How to fix Toyota's duds...
#1
How to fix Toyota's duds...
ToMoCo has it's hits and misses. Currently, the Scion xD, Toyota Land Cruiser, and Lexus HS are relative duds in terms of sales, as well as lacking the type of innovation and passion that its parallel competitors have.
And although the Corolla and Camry sell very well, they need to gain more edge in today's highly competitive market.
So, I came to thinking about how to make each Scion/Toyota/Lexus model better, but without raising cost. It's an engineering feat that haunts any company at any given day.
But I also wanted to get some insight (and some laughs ) at some of your suggestions. I will call people out if they want a 400 hp Camry, a Corolla that gets 60mpg, or the Lexus LS to be cheaper than a Hyundai Equus.
Please, these should be realistic suggestions, not concepts and claims made by Acura.
DISCUSS
And although the Corolla and Camry sell very well, they need to gain more edge in today's highly competitive market.
So, I came to thinking about how to make each Scion/Toyota/Lexus model better, but without raising cost. It's an engineering feat that haunts any company at any given day.
But I also wanted to get some insight (and some laughs ) at some of your suggestions. I will call people out if they want a 400 hp Camry, a Corolla that gets 60mpg, or the Lexus LS to be cheaper than a Hyundai Equus.
Please, these should be realistic suggestions, not concepts and claims made by Acura.
DISCUSS
#3
Well... the Land Cruiser is only a "dud" in sales here in North America. It's quite successful abroad. The LX570, which has a better profit margin, has better sales here in the States, so I'm sure ToMoCo is fine with that.
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- 6-speed auto/manual across the Scion/Toyota line-ups, 8-speed for all Lexus
- AWD on Camry, ES350, Avalon
- Updated Navi (pixel, resolution, BTA, use while vehicle is in motion)
- Axe the FJ Cruiser (already have "Venza", Rav4, Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia, LC)
I may add more to this list at a later time
- AWD on Camry, ES350, Avalon
- Updated Navi (pixel, resolution, BTA, use while vehicle is in motion)
- Axe the FJ Cruiser (already have "Venza", Rav4, Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia, LC)
I may add more to this list at a later time
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- 6-speed auto/manual across the Scion/Toyota line-ups, 8-speed for all Lexus
- AWD on Camry, ES350, Avalon
- Updated Navi (pixel, resolution, BTA, use while vehicle is in motion)
- Axe the FJ Cruiser (already have "Venza", Rav4, Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia, LC)
I may add more to this list at a later time
- AWD on Camry, ES350, Avalon
- Updated Navi (pixel, resolution, BTA, use while vehicle is in motion)
- Axe the FJ Cruiser (already have "Venza", Rav4, Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia, LC)
I may add more to this list at a later time
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#8
Lexus Champion
What Toyota needs to do is test out their ideas on the internet before they release anything. Show us what you're going to build before you build it and you'll know whether it will sell.
Look at how that worked for the Mustang and Camero. Of course the final product can't be too different from the concept. Kazashi fail, anyone?
There is no need for focus groups. Car companies don't need to do things in secrecy like Apple does. Car companies can give customer early concept drawings and they'll know right away how people will respond. It's such a gamble to so much R&D into a car and get slammed by the public. See how people responded to the Honda Crosstour? Surprising the public is a bad move IMHO.
Look at how that worked for the Mustang and Camero. Of course the final product can't be too different from the concept. Kazashi fail, anyone?
There is no need for focus groups. Car companies don't need to do things in secrecy like Apple does. Car companies can give customer early concept drawings and they'll know right away how people will respond. It's such a gamble to so much R&D into a car and get slammed by the public. See how people responded to the Honda Crosstour? Surprising the public is a bad move IMHO.
#9
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1-please make the steering wheel little thicker. people who have driven any german car will know what I am talking about - Lexus Toyota wheels feel like my kids power wheel
2-decrease fender gap between wheels fender - more aggressive stance would not hurt
2-decrease fender gap between wheels fender - more aggressive stance would not hurt
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Why? the FJ is cheap and crude. Toyota's SUV line-up is bloated as is. The Venza, Rav4, and Highlander all offer civil and more practical rides whereas the 4Runner, Sequoia, LC offer that off-loading prowess. Sure its homage to the classic FJ40, but the on road noise, bad visibility, and sloppy ride make it impractical and unnecessary. Not to mention the tight rear seats and it still uses a 5-speed auto (6-speed manual still available).
In fact its one of the few Toyotas I like
#14
Lexus Test Driver
Why? the FJ is cheap and crude. Toyota's SUV line-up is bloated as is. The Venza, Rav4, and Highlander all offer civil and more practical rides whereas the 4Runner, Sequoia, LC offer that off-loading prowess. Sure its homage to the classic FJ40, but the on road noise, bad visibility, and sloppy ride make it impractical and unnecessary. Not to mention the tight rear seats and it still uses a 5-speed auto (6-speed manual still available).
#15
Take the Camry hybrid system put it in the HS, or make it slow and get the same MPG as a Prius, the way it is now is Civic hybrid laughable in terms of hybrid efficiency
The xD needs to go back to the original Scion philosophy, quick model change over, doesn't need to use an all new platform, but its style needs to be changed over quicker
The xD needs to go back to the original Scion philosophy, quick model change over, doesn't need to use an all new platform, but its style needs to be changed over quicker