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Old 12-29-11, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
Toyota was smart in making the Land Cruiser luxurious.
When looking at a LC at the NY car show,I couldn't believe how boring plain it was for over $70K.
The LX570 was worth the $10K more.Not even close.
not much difference in luxury perception between facelift and original?
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Old 12-29-11, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
not much difference in luxury perception between facelift and original?
I found the '11 LC to be bland and low on luxury look and feel for over $70K.
The new design LC is a completely different animal.
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Old 12-29-11, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I found the '11 LC to be bland and low on luxury look and feel for over $70K.
The new design LC is a completely different animal.
it is almost the same... bland inside or out? interior is barely changed at all....
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Originally Posted by spwolf
it is almost the same... bland inside or out? interior is barely changed at all....

Both!


The '11 interior (below) had that dull cheap looking wood finish unlike the new LC wood.
The shiny wood adds much more of a luxury look.

Also - 4 cameras around the car to show surrounding area
- multiterrain and crawl controls
- ventilated front seats
- heated reat seats
- LED DRLs
- large color LCD inside instrument panel with terrain select, nav display, speed, etc, etc
- heated steering wheel.
- turn assist which makes it easier to make u turn
- various small changes in colors, front/back bumpers, lights and interior.
- new nav system

Does this '11's interior look luxurious to you?
Along with it being without the new features above?


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Old 12-29-11, 02:53 PM
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i had the car for 2 years (well I drove it on/off, company car)... It is dark wood that a lot of lexus peeps like...I personally dont like that shiny new wood (personally i liked the wood in otherwise dull gray interior). I am not disagreeing that it could be more gaudy for the price - i am saying that new version wont be significantly so :-). So if you didnt like old one, doubt you will actually like new one. I thought personally that LC150 (Prado/GX) is much better bang for the buck, inside and out.

In reality, lets face it, Lexus killed Toyota interiors, probably on purpose. If Lexus can make their interiors expensive, no reason that expensive Toyota cant have nice as Lexus interiors... but they dont.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i had the car for 2 years (well I drove it on/off, company car)... It is dark wood that a lot of lexus peeps like...I personally dont like that shiny new wood (personally i liked the wood in otherwise dull gray interior). I am not disagreeing that it could be more gaudy for the price - i am saying that new version wont be significantly so :-). So if you didnt like old one, doubt you will actually like new one. I thought personally that LC150 (Prado/GX) is much better bang for the buck, inside and out.

In reality, lets face it, Lexus killed Toyota interiors, probably on purpose. If Lexus can make their interiors expensive, no reason that expensive Toyota cant have nice as Lexus interiors... but they dont.
I agree.
I think Toyota could have did much better with the Venza interior but held back not to maybe cut into RX sales?Maybe not.
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Old 12-30-11, 04:10 AM
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You definitely can't go wrong with an LC200.
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Old 12-30-11, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I agree.
I think Toyota could have did much better with the Venza interior but held back not to maybe cut into RX sales?Maybe not.
Venza is 15k less than RX... Venza is pretty affordable... LC is 70k car though.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
Venza is 15k less than RX... Venza is pretty affordable... LC is 70k car though.
I agree but the Venza interior could be a lot nicer for the $40K list number the way i would buy it.


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FWIW, I agree with spwolf - the darker matte wood is much, much nicer.
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
FWIW, I agree with spwolf - the darker matte wood is much, much nicer.
To me the matte looks like plastic.
The same cheap look in the Avalon and '10 Highlander Limited.
The '11 Highlander Limited went to the gloss wood and it looks much better.
I'm glad Lexus goes with the glossy wood trim.
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Old 12-30-11, 07:27 AM
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JDM lance cruisers are always much nicer than USDM counter parts. I believe the pictures on page one is JDM LC200
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The exterior styling is so dull and dreary - it would depress you just walking towards that every morning. Looks like it was designed by committee - the Knitting Committee by the looks of it. Interior is marginally better.
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both the lc and lx are so awesome
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Originally Posted by Big Andy
The exterior styling is so dull and dreary - it would depress you just walking towards that every morning. Looks like it was designed by committee - the Knitting Committee by the looks of it. Interior is marginally better.
yeah but thats LC, not an camry... so lots of heritage and ability behind that name means nobody actually takes it like that.
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