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Old 11-08-11, 12:04 AM
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I thought between the ISF, M3, and C63, the ISF would be the least expensive of them all.

But the base price is $5k more than a base M3 sedan, and $2k more than the C63. Why is this?

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I would imagine you get more kit as standard on the IS-F, compared to the BMW or Merc.
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But wasn't the ISF cheaper a year or two ago?
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Standard equipment. That's all I need to say.
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The ISF comes with a lot more options for the price. Are you talking new or used? A used 2008 M3 is still more expensive by 2k over an ISF, talking new yes a base ISF is more by 2-4k BUT you get many things that don't come standard.

A Standard M3 or C63 has nothing! Most Base M3 have to be special ordered because no one wants a base M3 plus BMW dealerships can hike there prices up way more than advertise on the BMW sites!

You looking for a used or new? I might be selling my 2008 Black ISF with around 32,000 miles which I just bought months ago and maybe driven for 1 week. I don't want to sell but might be doing contract security in Afghanistan for 1-2 years and don't need the car.
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^I'm talking about new, it's MSRP is $62k, where as the M3 is $56k, and the C63 is $59k. I guess you're right, that the ISF comes with more standard stuff which is why it's priced so high. But wasn't the base price lower a while back?

Anyway, is your ISF paid off, or what?

Feel free to PM me if you want.
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Pricey engineering on low volume product.

Distribute high cost between relatively few units.
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Good luck finding M3 on the lot for $56k unless you order it.
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This should answer your questions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_xY...ayer_embedded#!
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^I'm talking about new, it's MSRP is $62k, where as the M3 is $56k, and the C63 is $59k. I guess you're right, that the ISF comes with more standard stuff which is why it's priced so high. But wasn't the base price lower a while back?

Anyway, is your ISF paid off, or what?

Feel free to PM me if you want.
Trust me you don't want an M3 with nothing in it. It's like buying a luxury sports cars and having the interior of a camery or accord that's better than yours unless it's strictly a race car.

Yea I paid cash for it. I actually bought in from Lexus of Easton in Ohio and they shipped it to San Diego, CA. I'll be back in San Diego end of Dec so if your still looking for a 2008 ISF just PM me and you can take a look. I still haven't got tags for it because I'm over here.
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I would pay 5k more for reliability and piece of mind.. Plus the IS-F looks 10x better than then the m3 and MB
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lol, a base m3 comes with cloth seats, 18' rims, no keyless entry, no powered/heated seats, no navigation, no metallic paint, fake interior trim, no spare tire, and almost $2000 in a destination and gas guzzler fees.

i consistly found a comparatively equipped m3 to be around $75k sticker with very little negotiation. I bought a brand new ISF stickered around $62k for under $49k + TTL (yes, fully loaded, even with headlamp washers), and even now i bet you can get one fully equipped under $60k after negotiation. yeah, it wasn't worth a $15k difference to me back then and i doubt it's still worth the $5-$10k now. especially here in NY with an M3 and M6 at every corner, and X5/6M at every other corner, and now the M1 trying to race me every other day. i just laugh knowing they paid almost the same amount i did for a go kart.
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As others have said, it does come with a good amount of equipment standard, but I had no idea it now starts at $62K! If I recall correctly the base price 3 years ago was $56-$57k? I guess price increase reflects improvements made the last couple of years.
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Originally Posted by malujerry
lol, a base m3 comes with cloth seats, 18' rims, no keyless entry, no powered/heated seats, no navigation, no metallic paint, fake interior trim, no spare tire, and almost $2000 in a destination and gas guzzler fees.

i consistly found a comparatively equipped m3 to be around $75k sticker with very little negotiation. I bought a brand new ISF stickered around $62k for under $49k + TTL (yes, fully loaded, even with headlamp washers), and even now i bet you can get one fully equipped under $60k after negotiation. yeah, it wasn't worth a $15k difference to me back then and i doubt it's still worth the $5-$10k now. especially here in NY with an M3 and M6 at every corner, and X5/6M at every other corner, and now the M1 trying to race me every other day. i just laugh knowing they paid almost the same amount i did for a go kart.
Like he said don't forget the "Gas Guzzler TAX" which is the one reason I didn't buy the M3! Lexus has a policy for new cars which they can't mark up prices (correct me if I'm wrong?) while BMW can mark up there's (seen a new M3 as high as 90-100k when the 2008 first came out!).

If your going to get a standard M3 might as well get the cheaper 300 series and tune it!

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Originally Posted by Incredible
I thought between the ISF, M3, and C63, the ISF would be the least expensive of them all.

But the base price is $5k more than a base M3 sedan, and $2k more than the C63. Why is this?
Compare them comparably equipped, the M3 and C63 are $10k~$20k more

Asian cars are combo meal, Euros works on an a la carte system.

Base M3 and C63 don't even come with keys, steering wheel or a windshield, everything is optional, they just give you a rolling chassis.............JK, I think they do come with a driver seat.

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