F10 M5: 0-60 in 3.7 sec, Quarter Mile in 12.0 sec !
10-27-11, 11:43 PM
#46
Impressive with the chip. 
Still shared with SUVs sorry and debuted first on SUVs. I understand the 5 becoming to big and softer for sales but at that point why not just get the E63 or RS6? The line at this point is so blurry whereas in the past, BMW was by far the drivers car.
I didn't say new Ferrari
The stock performance of these sedans is mind blowing.
I don't want an estimate b/c I could estimate it. I think it would be much more fun and interesting to see these sedans tested with people/things in it since that is why people buy them. It would be fun data to compare. Of course this is another magazine missing the point just hoping to get people all hot and bothered with a lower 0-60 time to put on their cover.
Still shared with SUVs sorry and debuted first on SUVs. I understand the 5 becoming to big and softer for sales but at that point why not just get the E63 or RS6? The line at this point is so blurry whereas in the past, BMW was by far the drivers car. I didn't say new Ferrari
The stock performance of these sedans is mind blowing. I don't want an estimate b/c I could estimate it. I think it would be much more fun and interesting to see these sedans tested with people/things in it since that is why people buy them. It would be fun data to compare. Of course this is another magazine missing the point just hoping to get people all hot and bothered with a lower 0-60 time to put on their cover.
i guess my point is there is still a pretty bi gap between e63 and m5 in terms of the driving dynamics, etc... it really depends on where bmw wants to land it
10-28-11, 12:05 AM
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Most people who buy the car don't care too much about 0-60 except to brag about it. Most never use the horsepower anyways, I think too much is made on power. That's the reason I choose the ISF over the M3 was the options Lexus provided!
I love the power but I can care less about having that much power unless I can still get good gas mileage.
I love the power but I can care less about having that much power unless I can still get good gas mileage.
10-28-11, 11:58 AM
#49
Stock boost on the SUV is only 17 psi, so it is easy 55 hp gain with +2 psi. 22 psi on the M5, not sure how much more they can add before detonation on 91.
I call my LS430 and SC430 sharing an engine, X-M and M5.......not so much, sharing the block at best. On paper I guess, I know what you mean, is like calling the LS600 and ISF sharing an engine.
They all offer something different, when you know exactly what you want, the choice is clear.
In that case, all you need is a bone stock Camry to smoke an old Ferrari. You don't need no twin turbo M5
http://youtu.be/4IrJH6gz0ug
Definitely!
I see your point, it is fun to see a M5 with 5 people in it smoking a Boxster. I am just lazy, why actually do it when I can closely estimate the result already
I call my LS430 and SC430 sharing an engine, X-M and M5.......not so much, sharing the block at best. On paper I guess, I know what you mean, is like calling the LS600 and ISF sharing an engine.
In that case, all you need is a bone stock Camry to smoke an old Ferrari. You don't need no twin turbo M5
http://youtu.be/4IrJH6gz0ug
Definitely!
I don't want an estimate b/c I could estimate it. I think it would be much more fun and interesting to see these sedans tested with people/things in it since that is why people buy them. It would be fun data to compare. Of course this is another magazine missing the point just hoping to get people all hot and bothered with a lower 0-60 time to put on their cover.
10-28-11, 12:03 PM
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i have driven the e63 (w212) 6.2l version. i would think the new e63 is about the same. the car still feel quite unbalanced and front heavy. if the m5 is still something close to e60 in terms of balance, that would still be a better to drive. if it gets so bad (close) to the e63, then it's a disappointment
i guess my point is there is still a pretty bi gap between e63 and m5 in terms of the driving dynamics, etc... it really depends on where bmw wants to land it
i guess my point is there is still a pretty bi gap between e63 and m5 in terms of the driving dynamics, etc... it really depends on where bmw wants to land it
10-28-11, 12:11 PM
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Most people who buy the car don't care too much about 0-60 except to brag about it. Most never use the horsepower anyways, I think too much is made on power. That's the reason I choose the ISF over the M3 was the options Lexus provided!
I love the power but I can care less about having that much power unless I can still get good gas mileage.
I love the power but I can care less about having that much power unless I can still get good gas mileage.
Around where I live, people floor their cars at every light, they sure use every drop of the 0-60 from their cars. I just witnessed a 0-100 race the other day, Continental GT Speed vs. W221 S65........WOT, surprised at how loud that GT Speed was, maybe it aren't stock
I see races in my neighborhood everyday, usually the normal stuff....E46 M3 vs. 335i, VW R32 vs. GTI, 996 vs. Cayman, but once in a while I see cool stuff like the Conti Speed vs. 65!
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10-28-11, 12:24 PM
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GREAT catch! I can explain
This is referring to the image, prestige, the overall feel of the car without driving it. The RS4 looks meaner with those huge flared fenders and they are cooler because they are so rare, you rarely see them. As oppose to the dime a dozen M3 and C63 that you see in every corners.
This is referring to the driving experiences. It is nothing delicious like the V8 M3.
This is referring to the driving experiences. It is nothing delicious like the V8 M3.
10-29-11, 06:33 PM
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