F10 M5: 0-60 in 3.7 sec, Quarter Mile in 12.0 sec !
10-26-11, 06:58 PM
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Audi's performance offerings always seem a step behind MB and BMW.
They released cars like the S4 and S5 (which really couldn't match the M3 and M6) only to re-release a higher performance version in the RS4 and RS5..........odd IMO.
I always loved Audi's (I used to own a B5 S4), and I'd kill for a RS6 Avant.
Audi's performance offerings always seem a step behind MB and BMW.
They released cars like the S4 and S5 (which really couldn't match the M3 and M6) only to re-release a higher performance version in the RS4 and RS5..........odd IMO.
I always loved Audi's (I used to own a B5 S4), and I'd kill for a RS6 Avant.
10-26-11, 10:48 PM
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they do the test downhill
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Audi's performance offerings always seem a step behind MB and BMW.
They released cars like the S4 and S5 (which really couldn't match the M3 and M6) only to re-release a higher performance version in the RS4 and RS5..........odd IMO.
I always loved Audi's (I used to own a B5 S4), and I'd kill for a RS6 Avant.
Audi's performance offerings always seem a step behind MB and BMW.
They released cars like the S4 and S5 (which really couldn't match the M3 and M6) only to re-release a higher performance version in the RS4 and RS5..........odd IMO.
I always loved Audi's (I used to own a B5 S4), and I'd kill for a RS6 Avant.
a4 and a5 they are just the basic engine setup 2.0t, which is just like 328 or c300
s4 and s5 are slightly boosted version, i think now it's 3.0t? that's against 335 and c350
then if they actually do it, it's the rs4 and rs5, which will be against m3 and c63
the s line doesn't come close to touching m and amg
10-27-11, 12:39 PM
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i think it was spwolf who explained before and i think it makes sense
a4 and a5 they are just the basic engine setup 2.0t, which is just like 328 or c300
s4 and s5 are slightly boosted version, i think now it's 3.0t? that's against 335 and c350
then if they actually do it, it's the rs4 and rs5, which will be against m3 and c63
the s line doesn't come close to touching m and amg
a4 and a5 they are just the basic engine setup 2.0t, which is just like 328 or c300
s4 and s5 are slightly boosted version, i think now it's 3.0t? that's against 335 and c350
then if they actually do it, it's the rs4 and rs5, which will be against m3 and c63
the s line doesn't come close to touching m and amg
Now that I think about it, I think Audi S is a little higher then 335i and C350, maybe is equal to like a fully loaded 335is M-Sport, but definitely not anywhere close to a M or AMG.
I think Audi usually play in a slightly higher ground then MB and BMW. Just look at the RS6 that came out at 2008, 5.0L V10 twin turbo with 571 hp........that was almost 4 years ago, MB and BMW is just now having twin turbo V8 with ~550 hp in their E63 and M5.
10-27-11, 12:41 PM
#20
I discussed this topic before
Now that I think about it, I think Audi S is a little higher then 335i and C350, maybe is equal to like a fully loaded 335is M-Sport, but definitely not anywhere close to a M or AMG.
I think Audi usually play in a slightly higher ground then MB and BMW. Just look at the RS6 that came out at 2008, 5.0L V10 twin turbo with 571 hp........that was almost 4 years ago, MB and BMW is just now having twin turbo V8 with ~550 hp in their E63 and M5.
Now that I think about it, I think Audi S is a little higher then 335i and C350, maybe is equal to like a fully loaded 335is M-Sport, but definitely not anywhere close to a M or AMG.
I think Audi usually play in a slightly higher ground then MB and BMW. Just look at the RS6 that came out at 2008, 5.0L V10 twin turbo with 571 hp........that was almost 4 years ago, MB and BMW is just now having twin turbo V8 with ~550 hp in their E63 and M5.
on the audi approach, hard to think i guess. i really don't see the s4 being superior to the 335i, back a few years you can talk about the v8 choice, but it's more of a form of power i guess
10-27-11, 12:54 PM
#22
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Other than the GTR there really aren't many stock cars under 100k that can pull off sub 3 second 0-60 times. This is an amazing achievement. Maybe the M5 will be my next ride. For performance like that I would walk on the wild side
10-27-11, 12:57 PM
#23
I feel the S4 offer slightly more then a 335i, just a hair though, not by much. I feel the S4's interior is slightly more exquisite, it launch harder off the line.....no doubt is due to the 4WD and DSG, it is a bigger car that looks more substantial, it came stock with more hp (333 vs. 300).
That is comparing a base S4 to a base 335i, since a base S4 is a lot more loaded then a base 335i, a base 335i come with almost nothing. Now if you go to a 335is, fully load it up with M-Sport package and every single options, that would be pretty much equal to a fully loaded S4. Almost the same price too.
Now look at the RS4 vs. M3, same thing again, more exquisite interior, a little more power (450 vs. 420), is bigger and look more aggressive, more expensive......etc.
Audi just want to one up MB and BMW at all times I guess. Different companies just play the game a little differently.
Last edited by BNR34; 10-27-11 at 01:01 PM.
10-27-11, 01:03 PM
#24
i didn't check, but i don't think gtr broke 3 sec yet? or did they already?you gotta try euro, tammer. it's a different experience
No apology, I am sure I wasn't the only one that discussed this topic.
I feel the S4 offer slightly more then a 335i, just a hair though, not by much. I feel the S4's interior is slightly more exquisite, it launch harder off the line.....no doubt is due to the 4WD and DSG, it is a bigger car that looks more substantial, it came stock with more hp (333 vs. 300).
That is comparing a base S4 to a base 335i, since a base S4 is a lot more loaded then a base 335i, a base 335i come with almost nothing. Now if you go to a 335is, fully load it up with M-Sport package and every single options, that would be pretty much equal to a fully loaded S4. Almost the same price too.
Now look at the RS4 vs. M3, same thing again, more exquisite interior, a little more power (450 vs. 420), is bigger and look more aggressive, more expensive......etc.
Audi just want to one up MB and BMW at all times I guess. Different companies just play the game a little differently.
I feel the S4 offer slightly more then a 335i, just a hair though, not by much. I feel the S4's interior is slightly more exquisite, it launch harder off the line.....no doubt is due to the 4WD and DSG, it is a bigger car that looks more substantial, it came stock with more hp (333 vs. 300).
That is comparing a base S4 to a base 335i, since a base S4 is a lot more loaded then a base 335i, a base 335i come with almost nothing. Now if you go to a 335is, fully load it up with M-Sport package and every single options, that would be pretty much equal to a fully loaded S4. Almost the same price too.
Now look at the RS4 vs. M3, same thing again, more exquisite interior, a little more power (450 vs. 420), is bigger and look more aggressive, more expensive......etc.
Audi just want to one up MB and BMW at all times I guess. Different companies just play the game a little differently.
10-27-11, 01:06 PM
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10-27-11, 01:16 PM
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