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Old 08-27-11, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
In my opinion Mr. Akio Toyoda please grow and maintain the Lexus brand worldwide. Keep the LFA halo car by introducing the convertible version (another 500 worldwide) and bring back the SC.

LFA C (Convertible)

SC 350 (Europe & China)
SC 460
SC F

GS 250 (Europe & China)
GS 350
GS 450h
GS 460
GS F

IS 200d (Europe)
IS 250/350
IS 250C/350C
IS 250/350 Sportcross (Bring back the wagon)
IS 350h/450h
IS F

ES 240 (China)
ES 300h
ES 350

CT 200h/300h

HS 250h

RX 270 (China)
RX 350
RX 450h

GX 460

LX 570

and of course all current versions of the LS...
Nice lineup...

and Ford/Toyota just made a deal so they can work on technology for trucks...so finally we see some LX/GX hybrids.
 
Old 08-27-11, 07:44 AM
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I think it would be cool to see Lexus retire the HS for a few years and then reintroduce it as a high performance hybrid 4 door coupe. No gas model offered - something like the ultimate statement of Lexus performance with hybrid technology.

I still maintain the fact that once IS and ES hybrids are born, the HS will become even more irrelevant as an entry level product, and thats not even considering the CT.
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Old 08-27-11, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
I think it would be cool to see Lexus retire the HS for a few years and then reintroduce it as a high performance hybrid 4 door coupe. No gas model offered - something like the ultimate statement of Lexus performance with hybrid technology.

I still maintain the fact that once IS and ES hybrids are born, the HS will become even more irrelevant as an entry level product, and thats not even considering the CT.
HS as entry level sedan certainly has its place... BMW, MB and Audi are expanding their entry lineup.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
I could easily be off on this, but I think we've heard the same pitch for the last 12 years from Lexus/Toyota. "...we'll make it sportier, we'll inject life into this and that, we'll make our cars stand out more..." Haven't we heard this a million times before? This is just a different person saying the same thing. Lexus's role is pretty much set right where the bread and butter sales are and I don't think they are that willing or desperate to change it too much. And I don't think they should. It's a successful business with a solid following. Akio's words are what enthusiasts and the press wants to hear, so he's saying it.
The difference is that it's no longer some middle management drone saying it but it's the HEAD HONCHO of Toyota, who bears the family name, saying it.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
HS as entry level sedan certainly has its place... BMW, MB and Audi are expanding their entry lineup.
The HS is totally irrelevant. Both it and the ES start at the same price. An ESh would probably run the same price as an HS Premium, if not be in fact cheaper. Build the HS cheaper and you walk smack dab into CT territory.

How are sales these days? I'm willing to bet that they would have been leagues better if Lexus had just built a damn ES hybrid in the first place.
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Originally Posted by MR_F1
The HS is totally irrelevant. Both it and the ES start at the same price. An ESh would probably run the same price as an HS Premium, if not be in fact cheaper. Build the HS cheaper and you walk smack dab into CT territory.

How are sales these days? I'm willing to bet that they would have been leagues better if Lexus had just built a damn ES hybrid in the first place.
ES and HS are not same cars... I dont see what the problem is?
If they build ES hybrid, it will be more expensive than HS. And bigger. And different.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
ES and HS are not same cars... I dont see what the problem is?
If they build ES hybrid, it will be more expensive than HS. And bigger. And different.
Fairly similar in size and interior volume. The problem is that the HS makes no sense in the Lexus lineup. It's an irrelevant car. An ES hybrid is essentially what the HS should have been, how exactly would they be "different" how much more expensive?
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Lexus should have introduced the ES 300h a long time ago. The ES line does sell well today and stills sells more than the IS with many variants.

Lexus could also bring to market an ES 350 C two door coupe based on the Toyota Solara...
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Originally Posted by Trexus
In my opinion Mr. Akio Toyoda please grow and maintain the Lexus brand worldwide. Keep the LFA halo car by introducing the convertible version (another 500 worldwide) and bring back the SC.

LFA C (Convertible)

SC 350 (Europe & China)
SC 450h
SC 460
SC F

GS 250 (Europe & China)
GS 350
GS 450h
GS 460
GS F

IS 200d (Europe)
IS 250/350
IS 250C/350C
IS 250/350 Sportcross (Bring back the wagon)
IS 350h/450h
IS F

ES 240 (China)
ES 300h
ES 350

CT 200h/300h

HS 250h

RX 270 (China)
RX 350
RX 450h

GX 460

LX 570

and of course all current versions of the LS...
you've mentioned adding more than a dozen new models.
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