LexFather

No problem!! Hate Hate Hate Hate!!

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/...&videoId=24419

We see your points though and I am sure some do agree with you.

Motor

Concept 1


Concept 2


Concept 3


Production

?

bagwell

I 100% agree, I pretty much stop looking when it says "concept"

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

Thank you.

Same here, I don't look at concept car to see what the production car will look like, because it will look nothing like it.

I do look at concept car for modding ideas, most of them do have very innovative and unique details that are very cool. But again most of the time is pointless to see it too as those details are too expensive to reproduce on my own car.

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

Motor........morph these 2 cars together and you get the production 86, it will be somewhere in between, more sleek then the Tc, less stylish then the Genesis because the 86 will be shorter, narrower and taller.

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

haha.....thank you, bagwell agreed with me

Motor

Let's just agree to disagree. I don't understand why you want to prematurely rag on the car. Bottom line: Let's just patiently wait for Toyota/Subaru to bring out the production version and then judge. It's only fair.

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

I am sorry if I made you feel that way, I wasn't ragging on the production car, I was ragging on the deceiving ways of car company's marketing department of showing a $300k concept car that is directly hinting at the $20k production model.

Is like you saw a beautiful $2000 looking object in the display window of a store with a $20 price tag on it, you want to buy it, so you go into the store, the object they actually give you for $20 is something completely different and is way less impressive in everyway. How would that make you feel?

MR_F1

Op on a hidden agenda against Toyota/Lexus

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

haha.........I tell it like it is, I am not against any particular company, I hate everything that is not cool

I love all Lexus products came out before 2006, I personally still owns 2 of them and the rest in my sig are own by my family, so Lexus was my favorite car brand by far. I still could not find any other cars better then the LS430/SC430 that I own, and I look everyday.

Just lately I am not feeling their latest products or the way they do things.

Also every car companies does this, it just happens that the FT86 is the best latest example, so I am not against TMC particularly. I say it is typical human nature, most people lie to get what they want.

MPLexus301

iTrader: (3)

Completely agree. Some of what is being said about Toyota and Lexus doesn't even make sense.

RXSF

grill is the same
headlights with the elongated chrome strip is the same
lower air damn shape is the same
tail light shape is the same
license plate area creases are the same
no rear wiper on the glass
shape of the rear windshield, how it curves to the side of the car
chrome strip on the trunk lid is the same
chrome strip on the bottom of the doors is a direct carry over
exaggerated front fender in both
crease in the shoulder line

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

Here it is, sleeker then a Tc, less stylish then a Genesis coupe:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/16/b...the-rose-bowl/

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

At least Toyota is easing us into the disappointment:

IS-SV

I dig crazy and not so crazy million dollar concept cars, including the ones that resemble future production models. I'm glad to see the leading automakers move ahead with new designs.