anyone see the new kia sorento and sportage on the streets yet ?
08-19-10, 02:31 PM
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yeah that quarter window section seems to be a hit or miss with some, but I'm sure that was intentional in terms of styling.
The rear styling of the new Sportage, with its roofline, beltline, and rather small windows and short, wide D-pillars, does not make for good rear vision....not as good as in the last one by any means. I didn't do a formal review, but took one for a test-drive when we bought my brother's new Soul....and that was one of the things I noticed.
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KIA and Hyundai don't have a standard design. They are just cheap Asian knock-offs of popular German and Japanese designs.
They don't compete with the so called "luxury market". They are people movers, that's it. BTW, once the dumb trade agreements between South Korea and the US end, you'll see those brands go up in price (if they ever end).
They don't compete with the so called "luxury market". They are people movers, that's it. BTW, once the dumb trade agreements between South Korea and the US end, you'll see those brands go up in price (if they ever end).
08-19-10, 04:55 PM
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Yes, the CR-V is an excellent product, with arguably the best build quality in its class (certainly is the most reliable, according to Consumer Reports)....though, unlike you, I find the front end rather awkward-looking. But, if you get a chance, take a new Sportage out for a test-drive...preferably the new 6-speed automatic. A little low on power, yes, with the 2.4L four/automatic/AWD (FWD versions are also available), but I think you will be surprised at how smooth and refined the new powertrain is. I drove one when we bought my brother's new Soul, and, like with the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, I was quite surprised at the drivetrain/chassis refinement. The 6-speed automatic shifted with virtually Lexus smoothness.
08-19-10, 04:59 PM
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Yes, the CR-V is an excellent product, with arguably the best build quality in its class (certainly is the most reliable, according to Consumer Reports)....though, unlike you, I find the front end rather awkward-looking. But, if you get a chance, take a new Sportage out for a test-drive...preferably the new 6-speed automatic. A little low on power, yes, with the 2.4L four/automatic/AWD (FWD versions are also available), but I think you will be surprised at how smooth and refined the new powertrain is. I drove one when we bought my brother's new Soul, and, like with the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, I was quite surprised at the drivetrain/chassis refinement. The 6-speed automatic shifted with virtually Lexus smoothness.
08-19-10, 05:03 PM
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Before you start panning Hyundai and Kia as being cheap German clones, consider that no German (or other European) company that I know of can deliver the quality that Hyundai and Kia offer does at their low prices. You can spend a six-figure sum for some upmarket German products.....and still get something unreliable. Many VWs, for example, sell in the broad Hyundai price range, but don't deliver anywhere near the same reliability, and are known for electrical problems.
08-19-10, 10:22 PM
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Before you start panning Hyundai and Kia as being cheap German clones, consider that no German (or other European) company that I know of can deliver the quality that Hyundai and Kia offer does at their low prices. You can spend a six-figure sum for some upmarket German products.....and still get something unreliable. Many VWs, for example, sell in the broad Hyundai price range, but don't deliver anywhere near the same reliability, and are known for electrical problems.
08-20-10, 09:14 AM
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actually hyundai and kia is doing the exact opposite as your comments, their design theme is becoming obviously apparent with their sonata, upcoming elantra, kia sportage, upcoming optima and cadenza.
and not hey are NOT cheap knock off designs because they were designed by a european designer by the name peter schreyer. It's as genuine as u can get!!
and to say that they are knock off is a pure display if design ignorism.
the sonata and kia optima are design originals, the kia front end theme is carried out throughout it's line up. little by little it will show itself. the sonata as well, it copies nobody else.
peter schreyer is a genius...it may become one day that a car is known by the designer rather than the manufacturer.
a "peter schreyer" design (or whoever) may soon be the upcoming trend.
and not hey are NOT cheap knock off designs because they were designed by a european designer by the name peter schreyer. It's as genuine as u can get!!
and to say that they are knock off is a pure display if design ignorism.
the sonata and kia optima are design originals, the kia front end theme is carried out throughout it's line up. little by little it will show itself. the sonata as well, it copies nobody else.
peter schreyer is a genius...it may become one day that a car is known by the designer rather than the manufacturer.
a "peter schreyer" design (or whoever) may soon be the upcoming trend.
KIA and Hyundai don't have a standard design. They are just cheap Asian knock-offs of popular German and Japanese designs.
They don't compete with the so called "luxury market". They are people movers, that's it. BTW, once the dumb trade agreements between South Korea and the US end, you'll see those brands go up in price (if they ever end).
They don't compete with the so called "luxury market". They are people movers, that's it. BTW, once the dumb trade agreements between South Korea and the US end, you'll see those brands go up in price (if they ever end).
08-20-10, 09:23 AM
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The new Sonata and Sportage are some of the better-looking products on the market in respective price ranges. Even if they have certain styling elements from other desirable vehicles, they are not knock-offs of any particular vehicle.
08-20-10, 10:11 AM
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darn too bad this was only 174" long on the small suv side. I'm not even into compact suv's but I gotta give my props to this:
mid size this and wow!
mid size this and wow!
08-20-10, 10:14 AM
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actually hyundai and kia is doing the exact opposite as your comments, their design theme is becoming obviously apparent with their sonata, upcoming elantra, kia sportage, upcoming optima and cadenza.
and not hey are NOT cheap knock off designs because they were designed by a european designer by the name peter schreyer. It's as genuine as u can get!!
and to say that they are knock off is a pure display if design ignorism.
the sonata and kia optima are design originals, the kia front end theme is carried out throughout it's line up. little by little it will show itself. the sonata as well, it copies nobody else.
peter schreyer is a genius...it may become one day that a car is known by the designer rather than the manufacturer.
a "peter schreyer" design (or whoever) may soon be the upcoming trend.
and not hey are NOT cheap knock off designs because they were designed by a european designer by the name peter schreyer. It's as genuine as u can get!!
and to say that they are knock off is a pure display if design ignorism.
the sonata and kia optima are design originals, the kia front end theme is carried out throughout it's line up. little by little it will show itself. the sonata as well, it copies nobody else.
peter schreyer is a genius...it may become one day that a car is known by the designer rather than the manufacturer.
a "peter schreyer" design (or whoever) may soon be the upcoming trend.
Just b/c the man is European does not mean its automatically great.
Here is a base one without the touched up pics.
It looks much better than the last model which was a direct RX knock-off
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08-20-10, 11:18 AM
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I don't see any correlation to the cls and cc. in fact, the sonata's most recognizable feature is the way the belt line flows all the way into the hood and grille.
botto line it's original both kia and hyundai.
in fact, let me ask u this. what is it about the sportage that makes it unique ? what is it ?
botto line it's original both kia and hyundai.
in fact, let me ask u this. what is it about the sportage that makes it unique ? what is it ?
The sonata design is a direct CLS/CC knock-off. Period. Peter Schreyer is no genius, he simply had a clean sheet to play with since everything previous was bland, derivitive or a direct copy. So of course ANYTHING he makes looks better. The bottom line is these the overall opinion is "wow that is amazing FOR A Kia/Hyundai". Their design is not anything new. Its just new for them.
Just b/c the man is European does not mean its automatically great.
Here is a base one without the touched up pics.
It looks much better than the last model which was a direct RX knock-off
Just b/c the man is European does not mean its automatically great.
Here is a base one without the touched up pics.
It looks much better than the last model which was a direct RX knock-off
