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Old 06-13-10, 07:45 PM
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Cadillac calls Ritz to capture luxury lost on young

Automotive News -- June 13, 2010 - 8:33 am ET

DETROIT (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co. CEO Ed Whitacre wants Cadillac to treat customers better.

At a June 3 meeting in Chicago, GM managers told 300 salespeople how a Texas salesman had dissuaded a friend of Whitacre's from buying a Caddy. When his buddy test drove a CTS- V sedan, it ran out of gas. Whitacre's e-mailed response was projected in large letters on a screen: “If true, awful.”

The gathering -- a combined pep rally, lecture and confessional -- was part of a GM offensive to revive Cadillac, which has fading appeal, aging customers and trouble persuading buyers it's worth paying a premium. GM brought in trainers from Ritz-Carlton Hotel Co., a unit of Marriott International Inc., to show dealers how to reconnect with customers.

It's truthfully a new beginning for us,” said Kurt McNeil, Cadillac U.S. vice president of sales and service. “We know we've got a lot of work to do on the product side, the marketing side and the customer service side. We think we do pretty well, but we know we have to do better.”

Cadillac, which once called itself the “Standard of the World,” ended a six-decade run as the top-selling U.S. luxury brand in 1998 and hasn't placed higher than third since 1999. Though U.S. sales rose 32 percent through May, Caddy's results last year were the worst since 1953.

The GM brand finished eighth among 12 upscale makes in the Luxury Institute's 2009 survey of buyers who make at least $150,000 a year, said Milton Pedraza, the New York-based group's CEO. About a third of the wealthy respondents said Cadillac was worth paying a premium, compared with 57 percent for BMW and 63 percent for Mercedes.

Less affluent

Cadillac buyers are older and less affluent than buyers of BMW, Mercedes and Lexus models, say researchers at J.D. Power & Associates, a division of McGraw-Hill Cos. A J.D. Power survey found the average Cadillac buyer is 62 and earns a median household income of $129,656. That is 13 years older and $39,633 poorer than a BMW buyer and 9 years older and $44,902 less than a buyer of a Daimler AG Mercedes, J.D. Power said

GM brought in the Ritz trainers to help Cadillac create a consistent sales experience across the U.S.
, similar to what customers expect at Ritz-Carlton hotels, said Jeff Hargett, who is corporate director of learning and content delivery at the Ritz-Carlton Leadership Center in Chevy Chase, Md.

So far he has led nine training sessions in cities including New York, Atlanta and Los Angeles with more than 1,800 dealership owners and salespeople.

Cadillac has copied Ritz's pocket-sized “Credo” cards with a version it is handing out to all company and dealership employees. The card explains how customers should be treated. All Ritz employees are required to produce it on demand.

Spotty service

Ed Peper, Cadillac's general sales manager, told dealers during the June 3 presentation that spotty service from store to store has hurt sales everywhere. He played audio of employees on the phone dismissing poor service experiences or failing to explain pricing to customers who opted to get service elsewhere.

Ritz employees have $2,000 a day, per customer, that can be used to make up for a bad experience or surprise a guest with a better one, Hargett said. He suggested Cadillac dealers find similar ways to let sales and service people “wow” customers.

Cadillac service chiefs are now allowed greater flexibility to extend OnStar subscriptions, provide free maintenance or even reduce service charges for customers who are upset, said Steve Hill, GM's manager of customer care.



Inflatable animals

Gary Grossinger, who owns Grossinger Cadillac in Palatine, Ill., near Chicago said he gave employees $300 to $500 in “wow” money after hearing the discussion last week. He's phoning customers to see if they are satisfied, too.

Cadillac is encouraging dealers to adopt a new showroom design that features a modern reception area that resembles a high-tech coffee bar. Though the new look was recently redesigned to be less expensive to build, GM can't force dealers to follow its lead because they're independently operated.

GM is also pushing Caddy dealers to unify the brand message. Cadillac recently removed most references to General Motors from its Web page and identity, using Cadillac.com instead of gm.com in e-mail addresses. Displaying inflatable animals, neon letters and balloons to advertise sales is not allowed, Peper said.

Attracting a new generation of buyers is key to Cadillac's makeover. The brand lacks a true competitor for models such as BMW's 3-Series sedan, which attracts younger buyers, McNeil said.

John Wolkonowicz, an analyst at auto forecaster IHS Global Insight said Cadillac should phase out land yachts such as the DTS, which Strategic Vision says appeals to buyers in their 70s.

‘Geezer mobile'


“You no longer need a geezer mobile,” Wolkonowicz said.

Cadillac will begin sales later this year of a new CTS Coupe and also has a station wagon version of the sedan. The company won't discuss other new products except to say there are plans for a new, rear-wheel-drive sedan that will be smaller than the CTS sedan, currently Cadillac's entry-level model.

The automaker plans to debut an all-wheel-drive XTS sedan next year and the smaller ATS the year after, said IHS, based in Lexington, Mass. IHS also predicts a Cadillac version of the Buick Enclave, maybe in 2013 or 2014.

Cadillac spent $354 million last year on marketing, more than any other luxury auto brand
, according to estimates from Kantar Media in New York. This year it will spend an extra $50 million, said Don Butler, Cadillac's vice president of marketing and the fourth person to hold the position in three years.

Not all the news is bad, Butler told the audience in Chicago. Cadillac dealers last year ranked second after Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus among luxury brands in a J.D. Power customer service index. They just need to do better, Butler said.

“The Cadillac of Cadillacs, that's what we need to get back to,” Butler said. “There is this residual positive sentiment for Cadillac. But the challenge is that a lot of folks think ‘It's just not for me.'”

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Old 06-13-10, 08:56 PM
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Great article. I am surprised that there was no info on the average and yearly income of Lexus owners.
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I think there would be a big difference if Cadillac was sold on it's own, not in a dealership where you can also buy an $8,000 Cobalt (for a couple reasons)

1 - If your dealership deals exclusively with the luxury brand, they sales people will always be in luxury mode.
2 - If I'm about to go spend nearly $100,000 on an SUV, I do not want to be in the same place as someone who has issues buying new shoes.

I guess what I'm getting at is: (at the most basic level) keep the budget buyers out of the luxury dealerships.
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Originally Posted by Faymester
I think there would be a big difference if Cadillac was sold on it's own, not in a dealership where you can also buy an $8,000 Cobalt (for a couple reasons)

1 - If your dealership deals exclusively with the luxury brand, they sales people will always be in luxury mode.
2 - If I'm about to go spend nearly $100,000 on an SUV, I do not want to be in the same place as someone who has issues buying new shoes.

I guess what I'm getting at is: (at the most basic level) keep the budget buyers out of the luxury dealerships.
I think you're 100% right. There's a reason there's not very many Ford-Mercedes or Honda-Ferrari stores out there
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interesting read
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Originally Posted by JessePS
Great article. I am surprised that there was no info on the average and yearly income of Lexus owners.
There is, forbes.com has posted statistics before.

The average income for an LS600hL owner is approximately $400,000 / year

The average income for an RX400h/LS460 owner is roughly $200,000/year ($202,900 to be exact, if i recall correctly)

These are incomes by Lexus model. I could not find figures for overall Lexus owners.

There were figures for some other non-lexus models. For example, the average income for a Porsche 911 purchaser is $390,000/year.



Edit: I suppose while I'm at it, I'll go ahead and supply the income statistics for the rest of the models discussed -

Average net worth of a Bentley Arnage Sedan owner (Base MSRP: $212,990) = $30 million

Average income of Cadillac Escalade purchaser (Base MSRP: $55,400) = $175,000 / year

Average income for Scion xD owner (Base MSRP: $14,650) = $60,000 / year

Average income for Toyota Prius owner = $95,400 / year

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So, basically, Cadillac are only now discovering what Lexus found out and implemented over 20 years ago? They've got their fingers on the pulse those guys..
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All I can say to Cadillac is... release the Sixteen
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Interesting, but still a somewhat troubled division.
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They need to discontinue the current XLR and build this.

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John Wolkonowicz, an analyst at auto forecaster IHS Global Insight said Cadillac should phase out land yachts such as the DTS, which Strategic Vision says appeals to buyers in their 70s.

“You no longer need a geezer mobile,” Wolkonowicz said.

I believe the DTS is the second biggest seller in the Cadillac stable behind the CTS. If you look at the demographics, "Geezers" (AKA older baby boomers) are the largest block of high income buyers with disposable income. The dated DTS certainly needs to be replaced, but folks in this age group want something roomy, quick, comfortable, well-isolated from the road, and with plenty of trunk space.
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Originally Posted by JessePS
All I can say to Cadillac is... release the Sixteen
I agree. I remember seeing that in my doctor's office 5-7 years ago and I ripped the picture out of his magazine (with permission of course )
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I don't like Cadillac's styling and it wouldn't be bad if they were to go. Other than the Escalade I don't find that many of their products appealing. The CTS sedan is ok, but it's too chunky and SUV-like. The new SRX is hideous IMO.
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Originally Posted by Faymester
I think there would be a big difference if Cadillac was sold on it's own, not in a dealership where you can also buy an $8,000 Cobalt (for a couple reasons)

1 - If your dealership deals exclusively with the luxury brand, they sales people will always be in luxury mode.
2 - If I'm about to go spend nearly $100,000 on an SUV, I do not want to be in the same place as someone who has issues buying new shoes.

I guess what I'm getting at is: (at the most basic level) keep the budget buyers out of the luxury dealerships.
Hilarious ....I was thinking the exact same thing as I was reading the article before I even scrolled down to your post.

When I was shopping the V, I was amazed at how poor the dealership experience was. It was like dealing with Herb Tarlek in a Chevy dealership...lol.
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Originally Posted by Haitwun
They need to discontinue the current XLR and build this.
It is on its way out. Caddy expected it to fly off lots but they had an 18 MONTH supply at one point. It was a complete flop.

Originally Posted by caddyowner
John Wolkonowicz, an analyst at auto forecaster IHS Global Insight said Cadillac should phase out land yachts such as the DTS, which Strategic Vision says appeals to buyers in their 70s.

“You no longer need a geezer mobile,” Wolkonowicz said.

I believe the DTS is the second biggest seller in the Cadillac stable behind the CTS. If you look at the demographics, "Geezers" (AKA older baby boomers) are the largest block of high income buyers with disposable income. The dated DTS certainly needs to be replaced, but folks in this age group want something roomy, quick, comfortable, well-isolated from the road, and with plenty of trunk space.
Agreed, KEEP the DTS. Look at Lexus, Infiniti, Lincoln you can have a random car in your lineup. Its a great car for them .

Originally Posted by CDNROCKIES
Hilarious ....I was thinking the exact same thing as I was reading the article before I even scrolled down to your post.

When I was shopping the V, I was amazed at how poor the dealership experience was. It was like dealing with Herb Tarlek in a Chevy dealership...lol.
It seems Caddy dealerships don't have to listen to Corporate at all, they don't have an agreement like Lexus does with their dealers. There is no unified Caddy leadership group.

The closest one here is next to a Buick/GMC and across a Hyundai dealership. It looks horrid there. The Lexus dealership nearby stands alone on a huge new lot, its beautiful.
 


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