GX 460 4/19 VSC recall (Consumer Reports "don't buy" label lifted 5/7)
#168
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Just searched for "Lexus" on Google and found something which made me think...a bit tacky and questions their financial motive. They run these tests, find an issue (aha!) with no actual incidents (still, yes), then they can run ads, get subscribers off it, go on TV etc...
"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
#169
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VSC will soon be a Federally-mandated requirement for all vehicles under 10,000 lbs. (the latest figure I saw is September 2011). The mandate is unclear if a VSC deactivate switch is required.
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i don't know about other countries, but many carribbean islands and small countries in latin america still worship toyota and honda.
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Just searched for "Lexus" on Google and found something which made me think...a bit tacky and questions their financial motive. They run these tests, find an issue (aha!) with no actual incidents (still, yes), then they can run ads, get subscribers off it, go on TV etc...
"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
#177
My uncle owns 3 toyota dealerships in the philippines. They know whats going on with all the recalls, but it doesnt effect their products. It isnt effecting sales at all
#178
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Lexus RX (2010) 77/110
Lexus LX570 70/110
Lexus GX460 67/110
Best SUV for 2010 from CG is Buick Enclave that scored 79/110
Best SUV with V8 for 2010 from CG is Chevrolet Suburban 79/110
**** the Range Rover and Land Cruiser got 73/110
Lexus LX570 70/110
Lexus GX460 67/110
Best SUV for 2010 from CG is Buick Enclave that scored 79/110
Best SUV with V8 for 2010 from CG is Chevrolet Suburban 79/110
**** the Range Rover and Land Cruiser got 73/110
#179
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Most likely the VSC deactivate switch will not be mandated.
All the deactivate switches default to the active mode upon restart. And many of the systems (even when deactivated) resume some form of stability control under certain extreme conditions, in other words many do not deactivate 100% even when supposedly switched off.
#180
So the RAV4 and Harrier (presumably referring to the last-gen RX) are affected too? That was unexpected. Good thing they have a quick fix ready though.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toy...ms-in-a-flash/
Toyota Cries Uncle On GX460, Will Fix Problems In A Flash
By Bertel Schmitt on April 15, 2010
That was fast: Two days after Consumer Reports slammed the Lexus GX460 with a “Do Not Buy” rating, and one day after ToMoCo halted the sale of said vehicle, Toyota already has a fix. Today at lunchtime in Tokyo, Toyota said to The Nikkei [sub] that there will be changes to the Lexus GX460. This in an unusually quick response to CR’s assertion that the SUV’s tail can wag too much when the gas pedal is released while turning at high speeds.
As Ed Niedermeyer predicted when he said “Expect GX460 sales to fall off a cliff until the model is fitted with an electronic straitjacket,” the problem will be solved with a re-flash. Toyota will modify the electronic stability control system and unspecified “other aspects of the vehicle.”
According to the Nikkei, Toyota has begun to test other SUV models. Based on the findings, the automaker will make the same fix for models like the RAV4 and Harrier. Toyota’s new Vice President of Recalls sure has his hands full.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toy...ms-in-a-flash/
Toyota Cries Uncle On GX460, Will Fix Problems In A Flash
By Bertel Schmitt on April 15, 2010
That was fast: Two days after Consumer Reports slammed the Lexus GX460 with a “Do Not Buy” rating, and one day after ToMoCo halted the sale of said vehicle, Toyota already has a fix. Today at lunchtime in Tokyo, Toyota said to The Nikkei [sub] that there will be changes to the Lexus GX460. This in an unusually quick response to CR’s assertion that the SUV’s tail can wag too much when the gas pedal is released while turning at high speeds.
As Ed Niedermeyer predicted when he said “Expect GX460 sales to fall off a cliff until the model is fitted with an electronic straitjacket,” the problem will be solved with a re-flash. Toyota will modify the electronic stability control system and unspecified “other aspects of the vehicle.”
According to the Nikkei, Toyota has begun to test other SUV models. Based on the findings, the automaker will make the same fix for models like the RAV4 and Harrier. Toyota’s new Vice President of Recalls sure has his hands full.