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Old 04-14-10, 03:32 PM   #166
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"maybe prone to rollovers"
"can cause rollover"
"potential rollover"

my eyes are rolling over
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Old 04-14-10, 06:42 PM   #168
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Just searched for "Lexus" on Google and found something which made me think...a bit tacky and questions their financial motive. They run these tests, find an issue (aha!) with no actual incidents (still, yes), then they can run ads, get subscribers off it, go on TV etc...

"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
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Old 04-14-10, 10:17 PM   #169
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Stability control is standard on all SUVs from Toyota/Lexus. Very few cars today do not come with stability control systems today, more of a rare exception for model year 2010.
VSC will soon be a Federally-mandated requirement for all vehicles under 10,000 lbs. (the latest figure I saw is September 2011). The mandate is unclear if a VSC deactivate switch is required.
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I'm curious, are CL members in other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia etc... noticing Toyota getting blasted in the MSM about the gas pedals, brakes and the GX? I'm wondering if this is purely an American attack on Toyota...
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It is strictly the US
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I'm curious, are CL members in other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia etc... noticing Toyota getting blasted in the MSM about the gas pedals, brakes and the GX? I'm wondering if this is purely an American attack on Toyota...
i don't know about other countries, but many carribbean islands and small countries in latin america still worship toyota and honda.
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Exactly. It's strictly a US witch hunt against Toyota.
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...this is crazy. You know, when this truck first came out I felt it seemed a little too narrow for its height...like the Isuzu Trooper or Mitsubishi Montero; both of which are relatively easy to topple over in the event of a quick manuever.
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I'm curious, are CL members in other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia etc... noticing Toyota getting blasted in the MSM about the gas pedals, brakes and the GX? I'm wondering if this is purely an American attack on Toyota...
Sadly this wouldn't fly much overseas b/c people actually do their own thinking and don't let the media do it for them. They are much MUCH better drivers than we are. They would laugh at that video. Here, people get scared and want to sue.


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Just searched for "Lexus" on Google and found something which made me think...a bit tacky and questions their financial motive. They run these tests, find an issue (aha!) with no actual incidents (still, yes), then they can run ads, get subscribers off it, go on TV etc...

"Safety Risk...Find Out More Here!" seems rather hyperbolic and sensationalized, it seems that the headlines and 'don't buy' classification may be somewhat hyped for their own benefit.
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I'm curious, are CL members in other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia etc... noticing Toyota getting blasted in the MSM about the gas pedals, brakes and the GX? I'm wondering if this is purely an American attack on Toyota...
My uncle owns 3 toyota dealerships in the philippines. They know whats going on with all the recalls, but it doesnt effect their products. It isnt effecting sales at all
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Lexus RX (2010) 77/110
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Best SUV for 2010 from CG is Buick Enclave that scored 79/110
Best SUV with V8 for 2010 from CG is Chevrolet Suburban 79/110

**** the Range Rover and Land Cruiser got 73/110
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VSC will soon be a Federally-mandated requirement for all vehicles under 10,000 lbs. (the latest figure I saw is September 2011). The mandate is unclear if a VSC deactivate switch is required.
Yes, federal mandate is the result of well-proven safety benefits of VSC.

Most likely the VSC deactivate switch will not be mandated.

All the deactivate switches default to the active mode upon restart. And many of the systems (even when deactivated) resume some form of stability control under certain extreme conditions, in other words many do not deactivate 100% even when supposedly switched off.
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So the RAV4 and Harrier (presumably referring to the last-gen RX) are affected too? That was unexpected. Good thing they have a quick fix ready though.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toy...ms-in-a-flash/

Toyota Cries Uncle On GX460, Will Fix Problems In A Flash
By Bertel Schmitt on April 15, 2010

That was fast: Two days after Consumer Reports slammed the Lexus GX460 with a “Do Not Buy” rating, and one day after ToMoCo halted the sale of said vehicle, Toyota already has a fix. Today at lunchtime in Tokyo, Toyota said to The Nikkei [sub] that there will be changes to the Lexus GX460. This in an unusually quick response to CR’s assertion that the SUV’s tail can wag too much when the gas pedal is released while turning at high speeds.

As Ed Niedermeyer predicted when he said “Expect GX460 sales to fall off a cliff until the model is fitted with an electronic straitjacket,” the problem will be solved with a re-flash. Toyota will modify the electronic stability control system and unspecified “other aspects of the vehicle.”

According to the Nikkei, Toyota has begun to test other SUV models. Based on the findings, the automaker will make the same fix for models like the RAV4 and Harrier. Toyota’s new Vice President of Recalls sure has his hands full.
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