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Old 11-03-09, 10:48 AM
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Default Watchdog: Unlikely That Taxpayers Will Recover $81 Billion Given to GM & Chrysler

Not really a surprise, but note the bolded area:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnew...-chrysler.html

ABC's Matt Jaffe reports from Washington:

On the same day that Ford -- the one member of Detroit’s Big Three that did not receive a taxpayer bailout -- reported a quarterly profit of nearly $1 billion, a government watchdog warned that taxpayers are unlikely to recoup all of the $81 billion the Treasury Department has invested in General Motors and Chrysler.

In a new report released Monday afternoon, the Government Accountability Office stated, “Treasury is unlikely to recover the entirety of its investment in Chrysler or GM, given that the companies’ values would have to grow substantially above what they have been in the past.”

Since December 2008, Treasury has invested $81.1 billion in the two automakers, more than 12 percent of the total funds available from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program.

The government now has a 60 percent equity stake in the new GM and a 9.85 percent stake in the new Chrysler.

At the present time, the GAO noted, “The companies still struggle to remain competitive with other automakers and to regain market share.”

But the GAO also said that Treasury’s investments in the two automakers have “contributed to the stability of Chrysler and GM”.

Treasury officials told the watchdog that they will consider all options for selling the government’s ownership stakes in the two automakers, but officials did say that the most likely plan to dispose of the GM stake is through a series of public offerings, while the most likely option for the Chrysler stake is a private sale.

The timeframe for the government to give up its stake in the automakers remains unclear.

In the past, Treasury officials have said that a public offering for GM could occur sometime in 2010, but two independent experts told the GAO that GM might not be ready for a successful IPO by 2010 because the company may not have demonstrated sufficient progress to generate investor interest by then.
In a letter to the GAO in response to the report, Duane Morse of Treasury’s Office of Financial Stability said that Treasury “will continue to monitor and evaluate the performance of Chrysler and GM with an eye toward determining the appropriate method and timing for divesting Treasury’s interests in the auto companies.”
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Old 11-03-09, 10:58 AM
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govt fail again
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I love how they refer to it over and over as a "government investment". It wasn't an "investment" in the company...it was a bailout. "Here's a HUGE check...use it to pay your bills and try to get yourself out from being underwater."

If a company needs an infusion of cash to expand, that's a good "investment".

If a company needs an infusion of cash to keep their doors open, that's a bad "investment".

Even without a PhD in economics, I'm able to figure that one out.
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Could have paid 1.3 Million of the jobless $30,000 for 2 years with $81 Billion dollars.
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Originally Posted by J.P.
Could have paid 1.3 Million of the jobless $30,000 for 2 years with $81 Billion dollars.
DING! DING! DING!
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And just remember, the governement that runs GM now, also wants to run your healthcare. Scary thought ain't it!
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Old 11-03-09, 12:22 PM
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Yes, no surprise, unlikely, but still unknown.
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man i must have missed it, i didn't even know we are "supposed" to be able to get back the money?

come on, even a moron is not that dumb to believe that
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Old 11-03-09, 01:33 PM
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Sick to govt. "No **** sherlock"
 
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Government Motors should have died back in December 2008. GM is such a big burden to the U.S. taxpayers and we'll probably never see that money paid back...
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I don't think American tax payers got back the "loan" they gave to big 3 back in the 70s.
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Originally Posted by Stormwind
I don't think American tax payers got back the "loan" they gave to big 3 back in the 70s.
Chrysler was the only one that received a loan back in the 70's and they paid it back early...so far Chrysler and GM has Not paid back the current loans yet and most likely won't...GM especially is a big burden to the U.S. taxpayers and shoulda died already...

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Old 11-03-09, 08:38 PM
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GM is and always will be a joke imho . They are a pathetic bunch of idiots and thieves.
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Who cares. what a small price to pay for the economy not falling off a cliff last fall. You all forget that the failure of GM or Chrysler would have been a complete disaster for all for you and even your other favorite car companies, something even Bush realized.
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i guarantee we're not done with gm bailouts....

did you know giethner just gave a few more billion to theri finance arm gmac?
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