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11-06-09, 12:29 AM
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And Mercedes had MAJOR issues with Sensotronic brakes, the official factory "fix" is to nix the Sensotronic EBC completely and retrofit a conventional system in.
Ironically Toyota started to use EBC in the 2nd gen Prius but with success.
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sometimes simple is better and more reliable generally
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11-06-09, 02:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nthach
And Mercedes had MAJOR issues with Sensotronic brakes, the official factory "fix" is to nix the Sensotronic EBC completely and retrofit a conventional system in.
Ironically Toyota started to use EBC in the 2nd gen Prius but with success.
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indeed... they had huge issues with drive-by-wire systems, and they scalled down the usage now...
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11-06-09, 02:01 AM
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I'll let you all know when my pedal gets "stuck" on full. I didn't read through the whole thread but I do agree that the media is doing no good right now. Its just like the Swine Flu scare. I stopped trusting the media for most things now. All they want is a story, doesn't matter if it has real facts or not
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11-06-09, 07:39 AM
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I didn't read the 5 pages of this thread but wouldn't just putting the car in neutral saved lives?
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11-06-09, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
I didn't read the 5 pages of this thread but wouldn't just putting the car in neutral saved lives?
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yes... unfortunatly, special vehicle training apperantly does not include this.
As one friend suggested, their lives would be saved if they had manual transmission as they would be car-smart enought to pop it in the neutral (even if it is much easier to flick it into N in AT cars).
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11-06-09, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
yes... unfortunatly, special vehicle training apperantly does not include this.
As one friend suggested, their lives would be saved if they had manual transmission as they would be car-smart enought to pop it in the neutral (even if it is much easier to flick it into N in AT cars).
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Some reports blame the gated shifter, that ES the trooper was driving was a loaner with a push buttom start and a gated shifter.
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11-06-09, 10:29 AM
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I believe the Bosch DBW TPS (throttle position sensor) failed on some early 00s Mercedes-Benz, but there were never any run away vehicles. Are you referring to their disastrous adventure into DBW Braking?
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11-06-09, 03:04 PM
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To be super honest with all this media blow up. Once a car crashes again after the dealers took each ES/Camry and zip tied the carpets to the chair (freaking pissed they did that to my new car but I understood), then we should all consider this case closed due to the floor mats, which was pretty much reported anyway. Unfortunately, there will always be those who cry, "software!" or whatnot just to discredit the company because that is not as easily fixable.
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