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Old 09-26-09, 05:50 AM
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One hypermiling technique I've proven many times over is not engaging the cruise control. Driving at the limit of 60 mph on urban freeways, I save as much as 4 mpg by holding a steady throttle position up and down grades. Don't do this in traffic, but shedding a few mph uphill will come back to you on the downhill side.

Lexus' and many other cars' cruise controls are now wired through the ECM, and they will move all obstacles to holding within a fraction of your setpoint speed. This produces a lot of throttle action that simply kills mileage. A steady right foot prevents all this throttle jockeying and saves a lot of acceleration and lifting, thus saving you gas. Try it!
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Old 09-26-09, 07:59 AM
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I simply held 65 MPH on my trip last week. Managed 33 MPG in my AWD Legacy which is rated for 27 MPG on the highway. Wish I had a 6th cog to drop the RPMs down.
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Old 09-26-09, 09:51 AM
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Here we go with the the fuel economy stories, lol......
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Old 09-26-09, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yes and under that exact same conditions the non-AWD car would get 1 to 2 mpg more.
Probably.

Some AWD cars, of course, operate in 2WD until the sensors (or center differential) detect slip, and then re-route torque as needed.

That's also one reason I think highly of the Suzuki SX-4. Not only is it the American market's cheapest (and smallest) AWD vehicle, starting around $16,000, but it has a 3-position rotary switch on the dash that chooses 2WD/4WD/4WD Lock for tough conditions. You can run FWD if desired, for more power and efficiency.

Some of this difference is not just the AWD drag impact but also the shorter final drive ratio most manufacturers spec for AWD versions of cars (to help mask or offset the slower acceleration caused by the additional drag and weight of the AWD system).
A shorter final-drive also helps in the mild off-road conditions that some car-based AWD vehicles (like the Outback, Forester, and SX-4) can handle.
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Old 09-26-09, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Here we go with the the fuel economy stories, lol......
Well, isn't fuel economy why many people try and hypermill in the first place, no matter how good or bad it is for the car?
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
Yeah, but factor in the drag of the transmission while in gear. One will more than likely have to accelerate to make it to the stop light, sign, maintain speed, etc. vs. being in neutral. Obviously, this uses gas.
exactly. everyone loves to tout that the car uses no gas while coasting in gear, yadda yadda...
what they neglect to mention is how much farther a car can coast in neutral compared with when in gear.
i don't have hard numbers but i bet i use less gas coasting in neutral than coasting in gear then gassing again to make up for the lost ground.

^ this is in a 5mt. dunno crap about an auto.
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Originally Posted by shyguy16
exactly. everyone loves to tout that the car uses no gas while coasting in gear, yadda yadda...
what they neglect to mention is how much farther a car can coast in neutral compared with when in gear.
i don't have hard numbers but i bet i use less gas coasting in neutral than coasting in gear then gassing again to make up for the lost ground.
As we have posted previously, however, NEVER coast in neutral on downgrades, especially steep ones. It is potentially dangerous, and can overload the brakes.
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Old 09-26-09, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, isn't fuel economy why many people try and hypermill in the first place, no matter how good or bad it is for the car?
Yes, but some enjoy the high speed cornering on skinny tires, disrupting smooth traffic flow with erratic driving, all with the goal of extra gas mileage. So hear we go with the stories, which is exactly why we have EPA ratings, because the stories are just that., CHIT CHAT for sure.
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