Honda Announces Pricing for All-new 2010 Accord Crosstour - Page 3

1SICKLEX · 09-01-09, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pvmike1

This is going to be my next vehicle. I don't care how much it costs.

All I need to do is put on some smaller wheels and raise it up about an inch, and it'll be perfect!

mmarshall · 09-01-09, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT

Honda even copied the Venza wheels.

I hope they didn't copy the 20" rim size. One of the things that is holding back potential Venza sales, especially with the 20" rims (19" is standard) is that some customers don't want to have to pay for those expensive 19 and 20-inch tires when they wear out. This is not just me speaking.........I've actually heard this from Toyota salespeople and on blogs.

In fact, when I first reviewed the Venza, I remarked, even before it went on widespread sale, that I thought the wheels were larger than necessary.

nthach · 09-01-09, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarshall

is that some customers don't want to have to pay for those expensive 19 and 20-inch tires when they wear out

I've actually read an article in some trade magazine like Motor or MotorAge explaining why the major tire makers like Michelin, Goodyear and Bridgestone don't make much tires 20" and bigger unless it was OEM fitment because they felt it was too much of a compromise - Michelin had concerns about their image as a company since a lot of bigger wheels aren't sized per the Plus system to match OEM specs - and that can lead to safety issues, while Goodyear felt it was a niche product.

Toyo/Nitto, Kumho, Hankook and the Chinese imports make tires above 20" as well - but they don't have enough market share to be seen seriously.

IS-SV · 09-01-09, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarshall

I hope they didn't copy the 20" rim size. One of the things that is holding back potential Venza sales, especially with the 20" rims (19" is standard) is that some customers don't want to have to pay for those expensive 19 and 20-inch tires when they wear out. This is not just me speaking.........I've actually heard this from Toyota salespeople and on blogs.

In fact, when I first reviewed the Venza, I remarked, even before it went on widespread sale, that I thought the wheels were larger than necessary.

Note: Venza with 19/20" wheels easily outsells the EX with 18" wheels 10 to 1. Venza is getting good traction for a less practical and stylish SUV, another winner from Toyota. The results are good, especially out west per a internet sale manager here, but agreed it doesn't have old school appeal.

mmarshall · 09-01-09, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IS-SV

Note: Venza with 19/20" wheels easily outsells the EX with 18" wheels 10 to 1.

Is that per consumer choice, though, or simple availability? When the Venza first surfaced in my area, for a while it was mostly top-line models that were available.

You're right that not everyone considers tire size as a factor in purchase, but in today's economy, keeping service costs down has become as important as the initial price itself.

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Venza is getting good traction for a less practical and stylish SUV, another winner from Toyota. The results are good, especially out west per a internet sale manager here, but agreed it doesn't have old school appeal.

What do you consider "old school" in comparison?

The Outback, which goes back to 1995? Or regular, car-based SUVs like the Highlander and Pilot?

IS-SV · 09-01-09, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarshall

Is that per consumer choice, though, or simple availability? When the Venza first surfaced in my area, for a while it was mostly top-line models that were available.

You're right that not everyone considers tire size as a factor in purchase, but in today's economy, keeping service costs down has become as important as the initial price itself.

What do you consider "old school" in comparison?

The Outback, which goes back to 1995? Or regular, car-based SUVs like the Highlander and Pilot?

Agreed, service costs are important. 19"/20" tire costs are coming down each year as they become more common in OEM applications. I've noticed the trend over the last few years.

"Old school", just slang and Highlander/Pilot are certainly good examples as any. Toyota has created a nice lucrative SUV niche for those seeking something that's actually stylish and still a reliable Toyota underneath. Also I'm seeing more of the 4-banger Venzas around, lower pricing and better mpg has appeal for many.

4TehNguyen · 09-01-09, 03:13 PM

ill take a venza instead

LOL! · 09-01-09, 04:13 PM

^^^^LOL, that gif is hilarious!!! Bravo!

pvmike1 · 09-01-09, 04:24 PM

lol!

LexusChris · 09-01-09, 04:21 PM

What are the car makers smoking, this does not appeal to me at all, all these car makers are coming up with unappealing cars lately.

1SICKLEX · 09-01-09, 06:19 PM

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iKenn · 09-01-09, 07:56 PM

reminds me of robocop

1SICKLEX · 09-01-09, 07:58 PM

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reminds me of robocop

DON'T EVER INSULT ME LIKE THAT!!!!

SLegacy99 · 09-01-09, 08:52 PM

Cars today. I'll hang on to my '99.

mmarshall · 09-01-09, 09:45 PM

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Cars today. I'll hang on to my '99.

Didn't you, or someone in your family, get a new Impreza just a few years ago.

I do agree with you, however, to an extent. With some exceptions here and there, a number of the vehicles built in the 1990's were better than those of today (GM being one of the chief exceptions).