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Old 11-06-09, 04:10 PM   #136
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For my BMW's labor costs = $0 and to date I had a brake fluid flush, multiple oil changes, wiper blades, air filter, cabin filter on the X3 & old 335. If the brake pads and/or rotors need changing, no cost to me. BMW labor & parts are not cheap so it is well worth it.
I'm not sure if it's a different program down there, but up here the "included maintenance" does not include the brakes/rotors. You can pre-pay it as an upgrade/addition at a significantly lower cost than you would pay if you didn't do it....but ultimately you're paying for them:

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Old 11-06-09, 04:34 PM   #137
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I'm not sure if it's a different program down there, but up here the "included maintenance" does not include the brakes/rotors. You can pre-pay it as an upgrade/addition at a significantly lower cost than you would pay if you didn't do it....but ultimately you're paying for them:
Well you guys are getting the short end of the stick. $0 means $0.. Brake pads, rotors, drive belts etc.. are included at no additional cost..

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Old 11-06-09, 05:12 PM   #138
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Acocording to the BMW dealers I have talk to, barke rotors are covered but not pads. Pads are consider normal wear item.
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Old 11-06-09, 05:17 PM   #139
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According to official BMW (US) website "brake pads" and "brake discs" are covered.
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Old 11-06-09, 05:29 PM   #140
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Why do you want to insult Lexus owners here that own one on a Lexus forum?
Do you really feel by me calling a car "a chick's car" is an insult? What if I call a car a man's car, is that a compliment? Generally, man and woman buy cars with different priorities in mind. A woman's dream car is somewhat affortable, look nice, usually small. Power doesnt mean much to most female, that why the IS250 is so popular among female.
If I offend any female out there, I apologize.
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Old 11-06-09, 05:33 PM   #141
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Do you really feel by me calling a car "a chick's car" is an insult? What if I call a car a man's car, is that a compliment? Generally, man and woman buy cars with different priorities in mind. A woman's dream car is somewhat affortable, look nice, usually small. Power doesnt mean much to most female, that why the IS250 is so popular among female.
If I offend any female out there, I apologize.
I still havent seen any ladies driving any IS in my area. Every single IS i've seen on the road have been 250s. I might have seen a 350 on the highway but he was speeding and he blew by to fast. Change your last sentence please, apologize to the male's. If for some reason I would have to buy an IS right now I would go for an 250. For me, the 158hp in my Camry and 220hp in my RX is more then enough. Not all men want powerful cars you know...
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Old 11-06-09, 06:07 PM   #142
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Do you really feel by me calling a car "a chick's car" is an insult? What if I call a car a man's car, is that a compliment? Generally, man and woman buy cars with different priorities in mind. A woman's dream car is somewhat affortable, look nice, usually small. Power doesnt mean much to most female, that why the IS250 is so popular among female.
If I offend any female out there, I apologize.
You don't get it. First, post out any chart or anything showing the male/female demographics of the IS 250 please. Next, if I linked your comment to the IS forum, a bunch of "guys" would take offense and have a field day with you. Third how is the IS affordable when most people don't buy ANY $30,000 car? Fourth, if the "IS" is a chicks car for being what you said
affordable
look nice
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Then the entire continents of Europe and Asia and South America drive mostly "chick" cars as the majority of cars sold there are small subcompacts and compacts.


You think the RX is a chicks car, which I can understand. Now the IS 250 is a chicks car?

The car in question was bought by a MAN, Primecut's friend.
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I'm not sure if it's a different program down there, but up here the "included maintenance" does not include the brakes/rotors. You can pre-pay it as an upgrade/addition at a significantly lower cost than you would pay if you didn't do it....but ultimately you're paying for them:
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Acocording to the BMW dealers I have talk to, barke rotors are covered but not pads. Pads are consider normal wear item.
rotors AND pads are both covered
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rotors AND pads are both covered
Sorry Henry and everyone else, that's not correct up here.

The quote in my previous post is directly taken from BMW Canada's website. I'm currently shopping a new BMW and it is an upgraded package that you have to pay for on top of the "free" scheduled maintenance.

Read it again...it clearly says "may be upgraded" to Service Inclusive.

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Sorry Henry and everyone else, that's not correct up here.

The quote in my previous post is directly taken from BMW Canada's website. I'm currently shopping a new BMW and it is an upgraded package that you have to pay for on top of the "free" scheduled maintenance.

Read it again...it clearly says "may be upgraded" to Service Inclusive.
i was talking about cars here in the US. that's why i live in the US j/k... i can only speak for US spec cars here
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I still havent seen any ladies driving any IS in my area. Every single IS i've seen on the road have been 250s. I might have seen a 350 on the highway but he was speeding and he blew by to fast. Change your last sentence please, apologize to the male's. If for some reason I would have to buy an IS right now I would go for an 250. For me, the 158hp in my Camry and 220hp in my RX is more then enough. Not all men want powerful cars you know...
If a 4 cylinder Camry and a RX is enongh to satified your needs, then you are a better man than I am. More horse power and torque is like a sickness to some these guys in here. Read the post of those who write, I dont need a lot of horsepower in my car and look at their sigs. They all drive cars with over 300 HP You are about the only one who can really stand behind that statement. Its not very often we get a car guy in here who is not into horsepower.
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No contest,IMO.
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If a 4 cylinder Camry and a RX is enongh to satified your needs, then you are a better man than I am. More horse power and torque is like a sickness to some these guys in here. Read the post of those who write, I dont need a lot of horsepower in my car and look at their sigs. They all drive cars with over 300 HP You are about the only one who can really stand behind that statement. Its not very often we get a car guy in here who is not into horsepower.
So car guys have to be into high hp to be a "car guy"? There are tons of "Car guys" and enthusiasts interested in low hp cars and modifying low hp cars.

The Honda guys would revolt!

High hp does not equate to being a car guy..sorry...
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So car guys have to be into high hp to be a "car guy"? There are tons of "Car guys" and enthusiasts interested in low hp cars and modifying low hp cars.

The Honda guys would revolt!

High hp does not equate to being a car guy..sorry...
I'd like to consider myself an enthusiast....and enjoy the 416 hp that my F provides....but, like I mentioned in some other threads, I'd take an E350 over a 535 even though the 535 is much "sportier"....and I wouldn't even attempt to mod it. Sportiness and performance don't necessarily win out....even for some enthusiasts.
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Do you really feel by me calling a car "a chick's car" is an insult? What if I call a car a man's car, is that a compliment? Generally, man and woman buy cars with different priorities in mind. A woman's dream car is somewhat affortable, look nice, usually small. Power doesnt mean much to most female, that why the IS250 is so popular among female.
If I offend any female out there, I apologize.
i have seen a few women driving the IS 250. i wouldnt necessarily call it a chick car, cuz some guys do drive it as well, although the ladies ive seen driving it look sexy doing so. to me, i like a girl who wants something luxurious and a bit sporty and fast. it might not be all that fast, but when a girl floors it.....turns me on!
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