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Old 07-21-09, 02:57 PM
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Left-lane slowpokes drive you crazy?
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The words 'move over' -- even if readable in the rearview mirror -- may not mean much to them, but a ticket might. Some states are cracking down.

In these days of longer commutes and simmering tempers, nothing seems to set off already-testy motorists like the left-lane camper -- the guy or gal who drives in the passing lane and bars faster drivers from easily passing. Web sites have cropped up to educate other drivers, or to vent. There's a (somewhat painful) YouTube song called "Keep Right."

Even bigwigs get frustrated. Pennsylvania Gov. Edward Rendell, weary of having his limo slowed down by such left-lane pokies, ordered an aide to have the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission install signs a few years ago reading "Keep Right, Pass Left. It's the Law."

And now some states are cracking down on left-lane campers, both to keep traffic moving and to tamp down the road rage that goes from zero-to-60 faster than ever before.

That's not just a pretext. Last year, a driver was arrested on Interstate 79 outside Pittsburgh after allegedly brandishing a semiautomatic pistol at a driver who was on his tail.
You could get a ticket
Some states didn't allow left-lane lingering but didn't enforce the law. Now they are.

At the start of the summer, the Washington State Patrol began pulling people over for violating the state's left-lane law, which prohibits "impeding the flow of other traffic."

"This a real big hot-button topic for the public at large right now," says Trooper Cliff Pratt. "We've had a lot of complaints" from drivers who've had to deal with left-lane campers.

So far authorities have been gentle with the $124 ticket; the drivers stopped were given verbal warnings.

Last year, news outlets reported that Oklahoma was bolstering enforcement of its left-lane law as well.

"We deal with it weekly," Lt. George Brown, supervisor of public affairs for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, said of left-lane drivers going too slowly. He's issued more warnings than tickets.

Insurers haven't gotten aggressive yet, either, but this kind of ticket has the potential to raise rates.

"Any moving violation that applies points to a driver's record could affect that driver's car insurance rates," says Susan Gallik Rouser, a spokeswoman for Progressive. "And because left-lane driving would be considered as such an infraction, we would take that into account when renewing a driver's policy."
What's the law in your state?
The laws vary widely, according to John Carr, who works for a software company in the Boston area and who compiled a list of the rules in each state after taking an interest in the issue:

* A few states -- for instance, Kentucky, Maine Massachusetts and New Jersey -- permit use of the left lane only for passing or turning left.

* Georgia, Colorado and Louisiana follow the Uniform Vehicle Code, requiring drivers to keep right if they're going slower than the speed of traffic.

* Wyoming prohibits blocking the far left lane of a highway "for a prolonged period," though it adds that the traffic should be "at a lawful rate of speed."

* In Arkansas and South Dakota, vehicles don't have to stay right.

* In Alaska, Maryland, North Carolina and Ohio, vehicles can drive in the left lane so long as they're moving at the speed limit.

* Florida is trying to join in: Lawmakers reintroduced a Road Rage Reduction Act this year, requiring motorists to stay out of the left lane on interstate highways except when passing. It passed the Legislature in 2005 but was vetoed by then-Gov. Jeb Bush, who questioned whether it was based on sound research.

It's no wonder drivers can be confused, and often frustrated.

'One of my biggest pet peeves'
One of those exasperated drivers in your rearview mirror might be Eli Dozier.

"That's one of my biggest pet peeves in the world, is when people stay in the left lane. They're not passing, they've got people behind them, trying to go around, and they just cruise," says Dozier, 31 and a stay-at-home dad.

"It's probably the most uncourteous thing you can do," he says, adding that it's "obviously" unsafe.

"I'm a fast driver," Dozier allows. "But if I'm not passing, I don't use that left lane at all."

So what's a frustrated motorist to do?

Dozier heard in a chat room about some windshield decals that said "Slower Traffic," with an arrow pointing to the right-hand lane, printed backward in large letters for reading in a rearview mirror. "And so I immediately ordered one. I jumped on it."

He loves the thing. "Most people, it's just inattentiveness" that keeps them in the passing lane, Dozier says. "Most people, when you pass them, they'll give you a wave. They're thankful" for the reminder.

At least, he says, women tend to be. Men sometimes take Dozier's sticker as an affront and will retaliate by slowing down, he says. There have been some middle fingers, some choice words. And then, Dozier says, "I have been known to show them how good the back of my car looks." At very close range. Which only exacerbates the situation.

Overall, though, both he and his wife are delighted with the results, he says. They recently bought her a Dodge Ram 1500 with a quad cab, and they've ordered a decal like his for it.

Pennsylvania authorities also find that reminders do work. "Anecdotally," says Carl DeFebo of the Pennsylvania Turnpike Authority, "you do see a lot less people . . . enjoying the weather" in the passing lane since 25 signs went up on the turnpike in 2003 and 2004. It probably helps that "sometimes our police will actually enforce this," DeFebo adds, handing out warnings or tickets that add up to $108.
Courtesy counts
The creator of those stickers, J.A. Tosti, is also director and founder of Left Lane Drivers of America. "What we're seeking to do is raise awareness," he explains.

A frustrating experience was a "Eureka!" moment for Tosti. "One day I was driving one of the local freeways in the area here -- we're not far from Portland (Ore.) -- and I got behind a guy who was going slow in the left lane," says Tosti. "And I got to thinking, boy, it sure would be nice if I could reach out and tap this guy on the shoulder and ask him to move over. And that's when the light bulb went off."

Tosti went home and designed a see-through decal for windshields that says "REVO EVOM." Seen in a rearview mirror, it reads "MOVE OVER."

"It's been a labor of love," says Tosti, who didn't disclose how many $29 stickers he's sold. He would like to sell more to law-enforcement agencies.

Tosti said aggression only aggravates other drivers. For him, response to the decal on his car has always been positive and pleasant -- in large part because he is a patient, nontailgating driver.

"It's amazing how effective it is," he says. "On one trip from Portland to Seattle, I felt at times like I was sweeping the left lane with a broom."

A faster, more courteous -- and well-swept -- highway? Sounds like something most folks could live with.

Defending the driving
But not everyone agrees with those who tell them to get out of the way.

"The left lane is for passing . . . not a license to speed till you kill someone," wrote a contributor to Motor Trend's blog. "Grow up. If I'm in the left lane doing 65 while the speed limit's 80, I'll move over. But if I'm doing the speed limit, and someone decides he's Mario Andretti . . . he/she can go around me and break the law further up the highway."

Washington state law says, "It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic."

"I think there is some misunderstanding," Pratt says. "A lot of people think that if they're going at or near the speed limit that they don't have to get out of the lane."

And the left-lane driving debate goes on.
 
Old 07-21-09, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX;4697096[/QUOTE

And the left-lane driving debate goes on.
It sure does. This is an issue that will never get truly resolved until we have a national uniform policy.

Just look at the posted article, for instance. Some states say you MUST move to the right if traffic is backing up behind you, even if the cars behind you want to speed....or are legally speeding. Others say you should move right, but traffic behind you should, in turn, also be driving at legal speeds....not speeding. Still other states say that, no, people in the left lane doing the speed limit are correct either way, and those who want to pass them are wrong. Each state seems to have a different policy.

I don't want to sound rude here, and please don't take this the wrong way, but, frankly, we've already had a million threads on this very subject. Of course, you guys can discuss it again if you want, but I don't see where another thread rehashing the same old arguments, pro and con, is going to make any difference.

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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
"The left lane is for passing . . . not a license to speed till you kill someone," wrote a contributor to Motor Trend's blog. "Grow up. If I'm in the left lane doing 65 while the speed limit's 80, I'll move over. But if I'm doing the speed limit, and someone decides he's Mario Andretti . . . he/she can go around me and break the law further up the highway."
So why the hell are you staying in the PASSING lane.

So if this person is doing 55 in a 55mph zone in the passing lane then its ok?
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Old 07-21-09, 03:55 PM
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it is confusing in some sense

but as posted, "left lane is for passing", that pretty much says it all. you don't need to care about what speed others are at on the left lanes. they can be over speed limit and what not. but as long as you are not going faster than them, stay right. i always do that, even if i am doing 80. who knows if someone wants to go 100 on my left. not my problem
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Old 07-21-09, 04:38 PM
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My preference is for a European approach to lane discipline and that's what I try to practice in a safe manner. Yeah it's a rehashed topic but it's important especially in the Western states with more open high speed roads.

Higher driving skill levels will have more positive benefit than legislation when it comes to this matter.
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Old 07-21-09, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
it is confusing in some sense

but as posted, "left lane is for passing", that pretty much says it all. you don't need to care about what speed others are at on the left lanes. they can be over speed limit and what not. but as long as you are not going faster than them, stay right. i always do that, even if i am doing 80. who knows if someone wants to go 100 on my left. not my problem
IMHO, it's not that confusing. Signage here usually says "Slower Traffic Keep Right", pretty straighforward.

What you are correctly practicing is good lane discipline, something a lot of Americans should also learn.
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Old 07-21-09, 04:59 PM
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When I first started driving, no where did it say for us that slower traffic should keep right, but apparently it's something my parents generation learned.

Now (apparently) they've changed it to: you should be in the lane of least resistance.

I MUCH prefer the left lane to be for passing & practice as such. This lane of least resistance stuff ends up with everyone going 10 under the speed limit because stuff gets too clogged up.
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"Keep Right, Pass Left. It's the Law."
Whether its a legal issue or not I think the above is just proper road etiquette.

Like others have said I too can keep up with the flow of traffic from the right lane and use the left lane to pass.

Its very simple to do and the few times I've been on the road and observed people doing this correctly it was definitely a more enjoyable trip.
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In South Florida, a lot of the slow pokes are on the cell phone or texting or doing some other distraction that apparently is causing them to go slow in the left lane.
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I was in the left lane the other day when this middle aged fella moved in to the lane (in front of me) and then slowed down to 60 MPH. Why move over? So I angrily passed (3rd gear and pedal to the floor) him on the right. Gonna cruise slowly, that's what the left lane is for.
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
I was in the left lane the other day when this middle aged fella moved in to the lane (in front of me) and then slowed down to 60 MPH. Why move over? So I angrily passed (3rd gear and pedal to the floor) him on the right. Gonna cruise slowly, that's what the left lane is for.
i just did similar action 2 times today... seems like a routine of my life...

and when i pass, i stare at them angrily and make sure they see me
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I feel unsafe (cops) doing 80+ on the left lane. So I switch over whenever I can :P
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
It sure does. This is an issue that will never get truly resolved until we have a national uniform policy.
Agreed.

Still other states say that, no, people in the left lane doing the speed limit are correct either way, and those who want to pass them are wrong.
One of which is Maryland, sadly.

Unfortunately, the state still places more emphasis on speed control, which is far easier to police, as opposed to other driving practices, which would just as well compliment safety, if not, more. If anything, I'd argue we'd see less excessive speeding and wrecks, if people followed a broader more uniformed law.
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i have to deal with this everyday. it pisses me off like nothing else. not only does it make me frustrated, i can visibly see the traffic the person is causing behind us.
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Originally Posted by meowCat
This kind of thread needs to be posted over and over and over and over and over.. this will help remind the drivers not to block traffic in the left lane (passing lane). This kind of thread needs to be stickied, or post it every month...

+1...........
This is the best thread to date...... I've been preaching this for years, I think i have gotten through to some....
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