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Old 04-23-14, 06:22 AM
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Just to throw more numbers in here. The QX80 starts at $62k and goes up to ~$80k. The LX starts at $82K and options up to $92k. The QX80 had better be outselling it here.
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Old 04-23-14, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
no disrespect to the man, but that's funny given the significant worship of akio toyoda on this forum.

leaders CAN make all the difference in the world, good and bad. alan mullaly at ford. akio toyoda at toyota. elon musk at tesla. their passion, executive skill, and intelligence have made all the difference in their companies.

don't know a whole lot about carlos ghosn, but he seems to be doing a decent job with the combined renault nissan...
Usually it is one person, if it's the right person, who can turn things around because they have a singular vision and a dedication to realizing that vision. They also need the power to execute. Infiniti's biggest problem has historically been a lack of clear vision and direction... a lack of focus. It has been a body without a head. Now it has a head. Yes, one person CAN turn things around.
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Old 04-23-14, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
no disrespect to the man, but that's funny given the significant worship of akio toyoda on this forum.
I would hope Lexus fans, owners and enthusiasts appreciate the efforts of Mr. Akio Toyoda. I would hope we sing his praises especially since the results are there, real, immediate results;
-sales up
-stock up
-profits up
-quality up
-better materials
-better technology
-better pricing
-sportier vehicles, some sportiest in class
-bounce back from the recall fiasco
etc etc etc

Lexus is his personal pet project, he loves the brand and has a truly vested interest to see it succeed.

You are comparing a man who's NAME is LITERALLY on the CARS. He was vetted as a young man to eventually head the company.

He is the heart and soul of the company today, again his name is on the door, on the business cards, on every car. His impact is immediate and a truly rare example of one person making a change. To take it further, Toyota is the heart and soul of Japanese business. Whatever they do effects the entire country. I'm not sure if any one company is as dominant and important to a super-power as Toyota is to Japan. This became crystal clear visiting Japan. Every employee I spoke to


Originally Posted by bitkahuna
leaders CAN make all the difference in the world, good and bad. alan mullaly at ford. akio toyoda at toyota. elon musk at tesla. their passion, executive skill, and intelligence have made all the difference in their companies.

don't know a whole lot about carlos ghosn, but he seems to be doing a decent job with the combined renault nissan...
If those leaders are given the tools and freedom to succeed. Two examples you posted are rare because
1. Elon Musk owns Tesla, it is his company
2. Again Akio Toyoda's name is the company name and he was vetted to be the leader.

Alan Mullaly did a great job and was allowed freedom to do his job.

In regards to Carlos Ghosn he literally runs both Nissan/Renault 50/50 as CEO. He has been hailed as one of the most effective automotive leaders of our time. He turned Nissan around with his infamous cost cutting and sharing or parts. Every year he is on the list of the most powerful and influential men in the automotive business.

And FYI Ghosn personally chose and hired Johan de Nysschen Will Nysschen be given the tools to win, the main one being a significant amount of money to invest in the brand??

We will see. They had a goal of 500k sales (worldwide) for 2016, revised to now 2017. That is a huge jump from today's figures in 2014.

And seems while Ghosn did save Infiniiti in 1999, seems as recent as 2013 he was fine with killing the brand. Forgot about that...
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Old 12-22-14, 09:12 AM
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Default Facelifted Infiniti Q70 from £32,650 in the UK, Gets Mercedes Diesel


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Infiniti has confirmed UK pricing for the facelifted Q70 sedan that made its European debut at the Paris Motor Show last October.

Together with some minor exterior revisions that include reworked bumpers, a new front grille, full LED front and rear lighting, a re-tuned suspension, improved noise insulation inside and extra equipment, the 2015 Q70 replaces its previous 3.0-liter V6 diesel with a new 2.2-liter turbo diesel unit sourced from Mercedes-Benz.

The new four-cylinder diesel developed as part of Infiniti’s strategic cooperation with Daimler produces 168hp (170PS) and 295 lb-ft (400Nm) of peak torque, emitting 129g/km of CO2. It's paired up to a standard seven-speed automatic, which on some models, is available with paddle-shifters. Pricing starts from £32,650 for the Q70 Premium 2.2d.

Besides the new diesel, for 2015, the Q70 is also available with a 3.7-liter V6 petrol delivering 316hp (320PS) and an improved version of Infiniti's hybrid powertrain that combines a 3.5-liter V6 petrol with an electric motor rated at 359hp (364PS), which accelerates the saloon from zero to 62mph (100km/h) in 5.3 seconds and returns CO2 emissions of 145g/km.


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Front looks improved IMO
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the taillights kinda remind me of the GS


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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411


Front looks improved IMO
Front does look better, but where is GTR powertrain?
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This facelift makes the car so much better.

In fact, I would love one with that 5.6 liter V8 engine (VK56VD)

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Originally Posted by cino
Front does look better, but where is GTR powertrain?
Amen
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Basically Infiniti added a diesel version:

M56
M37
M35h
M22d

Lexus had the IS 220d and IS 200d and didn't really sell really well and replaced it with the IS 300h which must be doing better. Just wish Lexus would bring the IS 300h to the United States so we get a much better selection from the IS line.

Lexus please bring the IS 300h to the U.S.!

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Old 12-23-14, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
Lexus please bring the IS 300h to the U.S.!
Do you think it would drive well? I can't really see that fitting in with the current IS's mission...I feel like that buyer would purchase an ES...
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Old 12-23-14, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
Basically Infiniti added a diesel version:

M56
M37
M35h
M22d
So the M30d (with its V9X six-cylinder Diesel Engine) is now phased-out in Europe..........and replaced with a four banger diesel?

That is one step back.....

Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.

Lexus had the IS 220d and IS 200d and didn't really sell really well and replaced it with the IS 300h which must be doing better.
IMHO, I think one main reason why the IS Diesel didn't do so well is because of the manual stick shift that was paired with it.



It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.

In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.

They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.

Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
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Originally Posted by Blackraven
So the M30d (with its V9X six-cylinder Diesel Engine) is now phased-out in Europe..........and replaced with a four banger diesel?

That is one step back.....

Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.



IMHO, I think one main reason why the IS Diesel didn't do so well is because of the manual stick shift that was paired with it.

It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.

In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.

They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.

Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
iirc the engine was not very reliable. Think it was sourced from some Polish factory
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Do you think it would drive well? I can't really see that fitting in with the current IS's mission...I feel like that buyer would purchase an ES...
That's like saying Lexus doesn't need an ES hybrid, GS hybrid's (GS 300h/450h), RX hybrid, LS hybrid, RC hybrid, IS hybrid or an NX hybrid.

An IS hybrid is not going to drive anything as close to an IS F or an IS 350, however it would be great to expand the IS line. Very soon we'll get an IS 200t, does Lexus really need an IS turbo?

I'm sure some people in the U.S. market would rather have a rwd hybrid (ISh) than an fwd hybrid (ESh) with a sportier look (IS) than an old man's look (ES). Again more selection is better for us...oh bring back the HS 250h as well...and bring the RC 300h to the U.S.

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Originally Posted by Trexus
That's like saying Lexus doesn't need an ES hybrid, GS hybrid's (GS 300h/450h), RX hybrid, LS hybrid, RC hybrid, IS hybrid or an NX hybrid.

An IS hybrid is not going to drive anything as close to an IS F or an IS 350, however it would be great to expand the IS line. Very soon we'll get an IS 200t, does Lexus really need an IS turbo?

I'm sure some people in the U.S. market would rather have a rwd hybrid (ISh) than an fwd hybrid (ESh) with a sportier look (IS) than an old man's look (ES). Again more selection is better for us...oh bring back the HS 250h as well...and bring the RC 300h to the U.S.
I think you missed my point. Outside of the RC and GS450h, the hybrid fits the driving characteristics of the other models you listed. The relatively tepid power output and CVT of the typical midrange Toyota hybrid powertrain makes it better suited to a more relaxed car than the IS. And yes I think we need an IS turbo- the car can still be engaging to driver with the slower motor, as we've seen with the BMW 328i.

But you're right, choice isn't a bad thing.

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