Quebec bans RHD imported cars 15 years and older
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Quebec bans RHD imported cars 15 years and older
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TO: Service Centers
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FROM: xxxxxxxxxxxx
SENT DATE: April 28, 2009
SUBJECT: Registration
SUBJECT: Ministerial Order concerning access to public roads of vehicles fitted with a driving position to the right
Please note that by virtue of a ministerial order, the Minister of Transportation will prohibit access to public roads for road vehicles with a driver's cab on the right, because they pose a risk to users of the road on our roads. The ban comes into force on 29 April 2009, for a period of 180 days.
Vehicles with a driver's cab on the right, covered by the ban are imported vehicles whose year of manufacture is 15 years or more. As these vehicles are subjected to mechanical inspection at the first registration application, the mechanical inspection agents who intercept from 29 April. Indeed, they agree to perform a mechanical inspection if the vehicle is allowed to access public roads (see, are granted access to public roads below), if any mechanical inspection will be made.
Since under the procedures, you must require a certificate of mechanical inspection line when the first registration allowing traffic on public roads and that the mechanical inspection agent will refuse to carry out the investigation for these vehicles no registration to access will not be issued (certificate of temporary registration plate or allowing traffic on public roads). The only registration will be permitted without use (Sutil) as laid down in procedures and to use "off road".
We remind you that the generality 2.07.020.E (appendix) provides a certificate of mechanical inspection line should be required to issue a temporary registration certificate for a vehicle from outside Quebec.
Are granted access to public roads:
vehicles registered in Québec before 29 April 2009, ie with a plate allowing traffic on public roads or those already registered in the system (or plate Sutil V);
vehicles registered outside of Quebec;
vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1971;
trucks, snow blowers and vehicles transporting equipment as defined in Regulation on the registration of road vehicles;
vehicles known to make repeated stops along a path through a work for a public service;
vehicles tools;
road vehicles belonging to a driving school or an institution which is licensed to teach driving of heavy trucks, issued under Article 10 of the Act respecting private education.
Retailers:
Traders will be informed by letter that as of 29 April 2009, they can not issue a temporary certificate or affix a removable plate on a vehicle with a driving position to the right unless it is registered to the system before April 29 2009.
Comments:
The Ministerial Decree specifies that all interested parties may send comments to the Société de l'assurance automobile du Quebec, 333, boulevard Jean-Lesage, C-4-21, CP 19600, Québec (Québec) G1K 8J6 within 90 days its publication in the Gazette officielle du Québec. The Company will continue its work on this issue during the period of 180 days. Upon expiry of this deadline, it will submit a recommendation to the Minister regarding the advisability of making the ban permanent.
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COURRIER OPÉRATIONNEL
DESTINATAIRES : Centres de services
Mandataires en permis et immatriculation
Direction des relations avec la clientèle
Service aux entreprises
Service aux particuliers
EXPÉDITRICE : xxxxxxxxxxxx
DATE D’ENVOI : Le 28 avril 2009
SUJET : Immatriculation
OBJET : Arrêté ministériel concernant l’accès aux chemins publics des véhicules munis d’un poste de conduite à droite
Veuillez prendre note, qu’en vertu d’un arrêté ministériel, la ministre des Transports interdira l’accès aux chemins publics aux véhicules routiers munis d’un poste de conduite à droite, parce qu’ils constituent un risque pour les usagers de la route sur notre réseau routier. Cette interdiction entre en vigueur le 29 avril 2009, pour une durée de 180 jours.
Les véhicules munis d’un poste de conduite à droite, visés par l’interdiction, sont des véhicules importés dont l’année de fabrication est de 15 and ou plus. Comme ces véhicules sont soumis à la vérification mécanique lors de la première demande d’immatriculation, ce sont les mandataires en vérification mécanique qui les intercepteront à compter du 29 avril. En effet, ces derniers accepteront d’effectuer une inspection mécanique seulement si le véhicule est autorisé à accéder aux chemins publics (voir Sont autorisés à accéder aux chemins publics ci-dessous), sinon aucune vérification mécanique ne sera effectuée.
Puisque selon les procédures, vous devez exiger un certificat de vérification mécanique conforme lors de la première immatriculation permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics et que le mandataire en vérification mécanique refusera d’effectuer la vérification pour ces véhicules, aucune immatriculation permettant cet accès ne pourra être délivrée (certificat d’immatriculation temporaire ou plaque permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics). La seule immatriculation permise sera celle sans utilisation (SUTIL) telle que prévue aux procédures et celle permettant l’utilisation « hors route ».
Nous vous rappelons que la généralité 2.07.020.E (annexe) prévoit qu’un certificat de vérification mécanique conforme doit être exigé pour émettre un certificat d’immatriculation temporaire pour un véhicule provenant de l’extérieur du Québec.
Sont autorisés à accéder aux chemins publics:
les véhicules immatriculés au Québec avant le 29 avril 2009, c’est à dire avec une plaque permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics ou ceux déjà enregistrés au système (SUTIL ou plaque V);
les véhicules immatriculés à l’extérieur du Québec;
les véhicules fabriqués avant le 1er janvier 1971;
les camions, les souffleuses à neige et les véhicules de transport d’équipement tels que définis au Règlement sur l’immatriculation des véhicules routiers;
les véhicules appelés à faire des arrêts répétitifs le long d’un chemin dans le cadre d’un travail visant un service public;
les véhicules-outils;
les véhicules routiers appartenant à une école de conduite ou à un établissement qui est titulaire d’un permis pour l’enseignement de la conduite de camions lourds délivré en vertu de l’article 10 de la Loi sur l’enseignement privé.
Commerçants :
Les commerçants seront informés par lettre qu’à compter du 29 avril 2009, ils ne peuvent émettre un certificat temporaire, ni apposer une plaque amovible sur un véhicule muni d’un poste de conduite à droite à moins que ce dernier soit enregistré au système avant le 29 avril 2009.
Commentaires :
L’arrêté ministériel précise que tout intéressé peut transmettre des commentaires à la Société de l’assurance automobile du Québec, 333, boulevard Jean-Lesage, C-4-21, C.P. 19600, Québec (Québec) G1K 8J6 dans les 90 jours de sa publication à la Gazette officielle du Québec. La Société poursuivra ses travaux sur cette problématique pendant la durée prévue de 180 jours. À l’expiration de ce délai, elle soumettra une recommandation à la ministre quant à la pertinence de rendre l’interdiction permanente.
TO: Service Centers
License agents and registration
Direction des relations avec la clientèle
Services for Business
Services for Individuals
FROM: xxxxxxxxxxxx
SENT DATE: April 28, 2009
SUBJECT: Registration
SUBJECT: Ministerial Order concerning access to public roads of vehicles fitted with a driving position to the right
Please note that by virtue of a ministerial order, the Minister of Transportation will prohibit access to public roads for road vehicles with a driver's cab on the right, because they pose a risk to users of the road on our roads. The ban comes into force on 29 April 2009, for a period of 180 days.
Vehicles with a driver's cab on the right, covered by the ban are imported vehicles whose year of manufacture is 15 years or more. As these vehicles are subjected to mechanical inspection at the first registration application, the mechanical inspection agents who intercept from 29 April. Indeed, they agree to perform a mechanical inspection if the vehicle is allowed to access public roads (see, are granted access to public roads below), if any mechanical inspection will be made.
Since under the procedures, you must require a certificate of mechanical inspection line when the first registration allowing traffic on public roads and that the mechanical inspection agent will refuse to carry out the investigation for these vehicles no registration to access will not be issued (certificate of temporary registration plate or allowing traffic on public roads). The only registration will be permitted without use (Sutil) as laid down in procedures and to use "off road".
We remind you that the generality 2.07.020.E (appendix) provides a certificate of mechanical inspection line should be required to issue a temporary registration certificate for a vehicle from outside Quebec.
Are granted access to public roads:
vehicles registered in Québec before 29 April 2009, ie with a plate allowing traffic on public roads or those already registered in the system (or plate Sutil V);
vehicles registered outside of Quebec;
vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1971;
trucks, snow blowers and vehicles transporting equipment as defined in Regulation on the registration of road vehicles;
vehicles known to make repeated stops along a path through a work for a public service;
vehicles tools;
road vehicles belonging to a driving school or an institution which is licensed to teach driving of heavy trucks, issued under Article 10 of the Act respecting private education.
Retailers:
Traders will be informed by letter that as of 29 April 2009, they can not issue a temporary certificate or affix a removable plate on a vehicle with a driving position to the right unless it is registered to the system before April 29 2009.
Comments:
The Ministerial Decree specifies that all interested parties may send comments to the Société de l'assurance automobile du Quebec, 333, boulevard Jean-Lesage, C-4-21, CP 19600, Québec (Québec) G1K 8J6 within 90 days its publication in the Gazette officielle du Québec. The Company will continue its work on this issue during the period of 180 days. Upon expiry of this deadline, it will submit a recommendation to the Minister regarding the advisability of making the ban permanent.
The Original:
COURRIER OPÉRATIONNEL
DESTINATAIRES : Centres de services
Mandataires en permis et immatriculation
Direction des relations avec la clientèle
Service aux entreprises
Service aux particuliers
EXPÉDITRICE : xxxxxxxxxxxx
DATE D’ENVOI : Le 28 avril 2009
SUJET : Immatriculation
OBJET : Arrêté ministériel concernant l’accès aux chemins publics des véhicules munis d’un poste de conduite à droite
Veuillez prendre note, qu’en vertu d’un arrêté ministériel, la ministre des Transports interdira l’accès aux chemins publics aux véhicules routiers munis d’un poste de conduite à droite, parce qu’ils constituent un risque pour les usagers de la route sur notre réseau routier. Cette interdiction entre en vigueur le 29 avril 2009, pour une durée de 180 jours.
Les véhicules munis d’un poste de conduite à droite, visés par l’interdiction, sont des véhicules importés dont l’année de fabrication est de 15 and ou plus. Comme ces véhicules sont soumis à la vérification mécanique lors de la première demande d’immatriculation, ce sont les mandataires en vérification mécanique qui les intercepteront à compter du 29 avril. En effet, ces derniers accepteront d’effectuer une inspection mécanique seulement si le véhicule est autorisé à accéder aux chemins publics (voir Sont autorisés à accéder aux chemins publics ci-dessous), sinon aucune vérification mécanique ne sera effectuée.
Puisque selon les procédures, vous devez exiger un certificat de vérification mécanique conforme lors de la première immatriculation permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics et que le mandataire en vérification mécanique refusera d’effectuer la vérification pour ces véhicules, aucune immatriculation permettant cet accès ne pourra être délivrée (certificat d’immatriculation temporaire ou plaque permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics). La seule immatriculation permise sera celle sans utilisation (SUTIL) telle que prévue aux procédures et celle permettant l’utilisation « hors route ».
Nous vous rappelons que la généralité 2.07.020.E (annexe) prévoit qu’un certificat de vérification mécanique conforme doit être exigé pour émettre un certificat d’immatriculation temporaire pour un véhicule provenant de l’extérieur du Québec.
Sont autorisés à accéder aux chemins publics:
les véhicules immatriculés au Québec avant le 29 avril 2009, c’est à dire avec une plaque permettant la circulation sur les chemins publics ou ceux déjà enregistrés au système (SUTIL ou plaque V);
les véhicules immatriculés à l’extérieur du Québec;
les véhicules fabriqués avant le 1er janvier 1971;
les camions, les souffleuses à neige et les véhicules de transport d’équipement tels que définis au Règlement sur l’immatriculation des véhicules routiers;
les véhicules appelés à faire des arrêts répétitifs le long d’un chemin dans le cadre d’un travail visant un service public;
les véhicules-outils;
les véhicules routiers appartenant à une école de conduite ou à un établissement qui est titulaire d’un permis pour l’enseignement de la conduite de camions lourds délivré en vertu de l’article 10 de la Loi sur l’enseignement privé.
Commerçants :
Les commerçants seront informés par lettre qu’à compter du 29 avril 2009, ils ne peuvent émettre un certificat temporaire, ni apposer une plaque amovible sur un véhicule muni d’un poste de conduite à droite à moins que ce dernier soit enregistré au système avant le 29 avril 2009.
Commentaires :
L’arrêté ministériel précise que tout intéressé peut transmettre des commentaires à la Société de l’assurance automobile du Québec, 333, boulevard Jean-Lesage, C-4-21, C.P. 19600, Québec (Québec) G1K 8J6 dans les 90 jours de sa publication à la Gazette officielle du Québec. La Société poursuivra ses travaux sur cette problématique pendant la durée prévue de 180 jours. À l’expiration de ce délai, elle soumettra une recommandation à la ministre quant à la pertinence de rendre l’interdiction permanente.
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One more reason to dislike going to quebec.
They make a law in french and it makes no sense in english.
Good thing we can still get skylines and celsiors in Ontario .
They make a law in french and it makes no sense in english.
Good thing we can still get skylines and celsiors in Ontario .
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how hard would it be to go to canada, get an old gtr i.e. r32 and bring it back to the states.
has anyone done this? i know its an old question but me and sum buddies are thinkin bout goin up this summer and if i can buy one and find some woods to bring it through without registering it i will.
has anyone done this? i know its an old question but me and sum buddies are thinkin bout goin up this summer and if i can buy one and find some woods to bring it through without registering it i will.
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in california...... but in more sane states its easier to get them legally registered if imported from canada. there are plenty of registered skylines and soarer's, fd rx7's here in washington i have 3 friends with more than one rhd car and have had several in the past few years. it all depends on the state.
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it's not hard to register one here.... swap the vin plate to a similar USDM model and the inspectors dont' even notice. you just have to explain that you've put a lot of jdm body panels and headlight on it, that's why it looks so much better than the USDM model :rofl:
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There are a few R33 and R32 owners i have met form NY who came up here for a meet, It can be done , i am not sure how to do it for the states in detial , sorry.
Check the skyline boards for more info.
In toronto their are tons of RHD cars , ok well not tons but atleast 2 a week can be seen which is more than i see of an LS400.
http://forums.gtrcanada.com
Check the skyline boards for more info.
In toronto their are tons of RHD cars , ok well not tons but atleast 2 a week can be seen which is more than i see of an LS400.
http://forums.gtrcanada.com
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In Cali, that'll guarantee harassment by the CHP and CARB...
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in california...... but in more sane states its easier to get them legally registered if imported from canada. there are plenty of registered skylines and soarer's, fd rx7's here in washington i have 3 friends with more than one rhd car and have had several in the past few years. it all depends on the state.
basically, you'd be bypassing EPA and NHTSA requirements, as well as DOT and Customs by bringing the car across the border for the purpose of keepinng it here, regardless of whether the state registers it or not.
except for the fact that swapping the vins is a felony punishable by a large fine and/or up to 5 years in prison...
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Just imagine how that converstation would go .
HEY Buddy ! What you in FO .
I swapped my vin so i could drive a JDM RHD car ,yo!
Let the ensuing jail fun begin.
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HEY Buddy ! What you in FO .
I swapped my vin so i could drive a JDM RHD car ,yo!
Let the ensuing jail fun begin.
LMAO
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getting state reg is easy, gettin the car federalized is damn near impossible. which means that if the feds ever get a whiff of your car, it'll either be on a boat or in pieces before you get a chance to do much with it. the states don't have to check to see if the cars are federally compliant, but the federal government has the right to take the car if it wasnt legally imported into the country.
basically, you'd be bypassing EPA and NHTSA requirements, as well as DOT and Customs by bringing the car across the border for the purpose of keepinng it here, regardless of whether the state registers it or not.
except for the fact that swapping the vins is a felony punishable by a large fine and/or up to 5 years in prison...
basically, you'd be bypassing EPA and NHTSA requirements, as well as DOT and Customs by bringing the car across the border for the purpose of keepinng it here, regardless of whether the state registers it or not.
except for the fact that swapping the vins is a felony punishable by a large fine and/or up to 5 years in prison...
i guess it's different depending on where you live, but here, as long as you have insurance and current tags, the cops couldn't care less what kind of car you have. there is seriously almsot no regulation when it comes to cars around here. obviously if you're in a street racing accident and kill someone, then yeah, they might find out, but htat would be the least of your worries and that's about the only thing i can think of that would warrant that kind of scrutiny here.
we get away with a lot of stuff here that would never fly where most of you guys are from.
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well yeah, but so what.. it's not like we have cops or anyone else fo rthat matter randomly inspecting cars as they drive down the road for improper vins... it would be pretty much impossible for the fed. gov't to find out becuase the state would have to get involved first.
i guess it's different depending on where you live, but here, as long as you have insurance and current tags, the cops couldn't care less what kind of car you have. there is seriously almsot no regulation when it comes to cars around here. obviously if you're in a street racing accident and kill someone, then yeah, they might find out, but htat would be the least of your worries and that's about the only thing i can think of that would warrant that kind of scrutiny here.
we get away with a lot of stuff here that would never fly where most of you guys are from.
i guess it's different depending on where you live, but here, as long as you have insurance and current tags, the cops couldn't care less what kind of car you have. there is seriously almsot no regulation when it comes to cars around here. obviously if you're in a street racing accident and kill someone, then yeah, they might find out, but htat would be the least of your worries and that's about the only thing i can think of that would warrant that kind of scrutiny here.
we get away with a lot of stuff here that would never fly where most of you guys are from.
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19psi: yea its the same here in sc. they could care less what you are doing unless you kill someone with the car or you're racing around doing dumb stuff. and we have no emissions testing!!