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Old 02-03-09, 08:53 AM
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I don’t find a problem with Lexus offering a V6 in the LS. It seems nobody wants to say it here but Toyota/Lexus is about money. Don’t fool yourself that it’s about making a more efficient LS. Honestly, it will water down the LS name in the U.S. I don’t care what the S Class offer. The S Class also offers a S600/S63/S65. For that reason, I will always put the S Class ahead of the LS. Lexus is not Mercedes and vice verse.
This is just a move to sell more cars not up the company prestige. Even though the LS Hybrid doesn’t sell great I respect Lexus for offering something new. I respect them for not copying another carmaker idea.

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Originally Posted by rogers2
I don’t find a problem with Lexus offering a V6 in the LS. It seems nobody wants to say it here but Toyota/Lexus is about money. Don’t fool yourself that it’s about making a more efficient LS. Honestly, it will water down the LS name in the U.S. I don’t care what the S Class offer. The S Class also offers a S600/S63/S65. For that reason, I will always put the S Class ahead the LS. Lexus is not Mercedes and vice verse.
This is just a move to sell more cars not up the company prestige. Even though the LS Hybrid doesn’t sell great I respect Lexus for offering something new. I respect them for not copying another carmaker idea.

You are 100% on this. Lexus needs to moves these cars. They are down 40%from 2007. Lexus has had the 3.5 in production for a long time now and they will make a lot of money when using this engine as investment has long been paid for.

The big question is. For the first time. Will Toyota marry the 3.5 to the 8 speed?
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Old 02-03-09, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rogers2
I don’t find a problem with Lexus offering a V6 in the LS. It seems nobody wants to say it here but Toyota/Lexus is about money.
Of course Toyota and Lexus are about making money. Shareholders demand that type of action from management. I'm not afraid to say it. And strong balance sheet and capital will help them increase market share in these tough economic times.
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Old 02-03-09, 09:39 AM
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If it ever happens, It will be definitely good news for european customers.Things are REALLY different in Europe when compared to the US. V8 hardly sell over here and as Lexus are not doing very high sales volumes, it could definitely help.

Furthermore, I guess that a LS350 would sell better than à GS350 because of the luxury image it gets and that a GS does not carry, at least here.
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Originally Posted by rogers2
Don’t fool yourself that it’s about making a more efficient LS.
Well yes and no.
1. People want more efficient cars. Making a more efficient LS = more buyers.
2. CAFE standards looming in the distance. If they don't meet them, they have to charge more for their cars to pay the penalty = less buyers.


Originally Posted by pagemaster
The big question is. For the first time. Will Toyota marry the 3.5 to the 8 speed?
They havent yet and I imagine that they are rushing to get this to production. I'd still like to see it though.
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yes!! i cant wait for the V6 LS to come ... here in asia, we get taxed proportionally as our displacement gets bigger.
with all the traffic, we don't even have the opportunity to flex the V8 muscles...so, welcome V6 LS!
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btw, What's the current curb weight of the V8 LS?
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
btw, What's the current curb weight of the V8 LS?
about 4200lbs. The LS460 and Sienna weigh the same. The 3.5 will do fine in the LS.
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
about 4200lbs. The LS460 and Sienna weigh the same. The 3.5 will do fine in the LS.
Yes, given the IS at 3600 pounds and GS at 3800 pounds (approx.) are very quick.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yes, given the IS at 3600 pounds and GS at 3800 pounds (approx.) are very quick.
Of course it will be OK for a V6 LS, the vast majority of S-class sold world wide are V6 & V6 diesels, & that's all what most people would need in terms of power anyway ...
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
Of course it will be OK for a V6 LS, the vast majority of S-class sold world wide are V6 & V6 diesels, & that's all what most people would need in terms of power anyway ...
Of course. This V6 will keep up with the V8 Jags (non-supercharged).
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Originally Posted by Gojirra99
Of course it will be OK for a V6 LS, the vast majority of S-class sold world wide are V6 & V6 diesels, & that's all what most people would need in terms of power anyway ...
Yup and again, the 3.5 V-6 will surely perform as well as the old 4.3/4.0 V-8 in the LS 430 b/c the 3.5 is just that damn good. They might even be able to squeeze some more power out of it.

The Benz 3.5 V-6 is in nearly all their products.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Yup and again, the 3.5 V-6 will surely perform as well as the old 4.3/4.0 V-8 in the LS 430 b/c the 3.5 is just that damn good. They might even be able to squeeze some more power out of it.

The Benz 3.5 V-6 is in nearly all their products.
The 3.5 in the Toyota family is a great engine.

If I am not wrong. But the 4.6, 5.7 and the 3.5 are all part of the UR family of engines? I am not 100% on this.
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I think it will open up te LS market a little. They will definetly move more units. They will be cheaper and more efficient. That usually translates into some increase in sales
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
The 3.5 in the Toyota family is a great engine.

If I am not wrong. But the 4.6, 5.7 and the 3.5 are all part of the UR family of engines? I am not 100% on this.
Are the cylinder bank angles the same on the V8's and V6? I don't think they are.
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